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arielm
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Infertility And Abortions
Posted: 06-12-05 18:37pm
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This is very sensitive subject and I
really appreciate any honest advice and
shared experiences.
I am 32 years old and facing the choice of
abortion or not. I have had 2 previous
abortions (one at 17 and the other at 27).
I am humiliated by this, but now have a
new boyfriend who is certain that the
timing is too premature to carry this
child to term...Which I agree with, but at
the same time I fear infertility as a
result of too many abortions. I cannot
find stats on whether or not 3 abortions
can affect future fertility.
Does anyone have experiences which they
can share? Or thoughts? Thank you thank
you thank you.
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kitty2luv
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Posted: 06-18-05 14:17pm
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I feel that I cant get preg b cuz of the
abortion I had when I was 14 but I had no
problems after the abortion .. Im scared
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steen
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Posted: 06-18-05 23:05pm
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There just is no data showing that
abortions cause any decrease in fertility.
If something goes wrong, then yes it is
a possibility. But infertility from
pregnancy, f.Ex. Is much more likely.
Infertility from abortion simply is not
really an issue.
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 09-17-05 17:34pm
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 09-19-05 11:53am
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For someone who does not want to be
pregnant, an abortion is the best and most
sensible option.
The fact that some women have trouble
conceiving is unfortunate, but it has
absolutely nothing to do with the decision
another woman makes about her own body.
Those people who are obsessed with getting
pregnant so that it is the only thing that
has any importance to them, should seek
counselling, and get a life.
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 09-19-05 16:11pm
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 09-19-05 16:18pm
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Sorry, dear, I was not posting anything
*to* you. You are commenting on someone
else's thread on a public forum.
If someone is pregnant and does not want
to be, they do not need some poor
infertile wretch to try to make them feel
bad about it. If you cannot understand
why someone would not want to be pregnant,
why should they care about your wanting to
be? Get over yourself.
Maybe you can think about how much someone
who does not want to be pregnant envies
someone who is infertile. This isn't
about you. So if you think abortions are
"cruel" because you can't conceive, try
thinking about what it is like being
pregnant when that is absolutely the last
thing in the world that you want.
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 09-19-05 16:36pm
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 09-20-05 09:11am
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If anyone has an interest in posting on
this thread, it is an open public forum.
If someone wants to come in and criticise
the op, they should not be surprised to
get criticised straight back. Your moral
values and delusions are neither here nor
there. If you don't want an abortion,
don't have one. If you don't want to have
three abortions, don't have one. There
are plenty of women out there who, however
careful they have been, can find
themselves pregnant when they don't want
to be.
The op had an abortion at 17, another one
ten years later, and five years after that
again finds herself with an unwanted
pregnancy. So someone decides they can
weight in and tell this women she is
cruel, just because she is unable to
conceive. Jealousy -- not very
attractive.
For the record, I do not have a lot of
growing up to do. Someone is soooooo
interested in my viewpoint that they want
to look up my profile -- very sad. Since
you are so fascinated, I am 42 years old
and doing a phd. Or is the idea of being
a student beyond the age of 18 so
incredible to someone whose only obsession
is being a mommy?
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 09-20-05 11:28am
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Mother_Of_2
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Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 1
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to Poo
Posted: 09-20-05 11:48am
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First off, what a ridiculous name I have
to say. I have been reading the comments
and I totally agree with preciousbabies.
Abortion is homicide, even though the body
isn't fully developed, it is a life and it
has a heart and a soul. God made all of
us. It is up to him that decides who
lives and dies. No one on this planet has
the right to that decision. God didn't
make us to destroy each other. The ones
that do, severely pay in the end.
Anyone that gets pregnant, it's meant to
be. There is a reason for everything.
People have to be responsible for their
actions. homicide is just an
irresponsible way out. If you don't want
to get pregnant, use birth control or just
don't have sex at all. It's that simple.
This is bs about women saying it is their
body and it's their choice. When it's not
their choice at all.
Clearly you are not a smart cookie. Why
are you contradicting yourself? For
someone that is 42, you sure don't act
like it. I am sure of it that you are
lying about your age and if you are 42,
then you will never grow up.
If I ever got pregnant and didn't want
the baby, I would put the baby up for
adoption, but after carrying the baby full
term, I know I love the precious innocent
life and would never want to give it
away.
I just want to know how someone can kill
an innocent child??? Epecially their own.
Anyone that does that has to be sick in
the head!!!
The simple solution is give the baby to
someone that can't have kids. Is that so
hard?
People like you that have no
appreciation for the miracle of life
really annoy me!!
There I believe I got it all out. I feel
much better now.
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angel6932
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Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 788 Location: US
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Posted: 09-20-05 11:49am
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Ok I am a 20yr old and I am expecting my
first child well second if you count my
misscarriage at 17. Here is my oppioun on
abortion. Ok I strongly feel that it is
wrong. I agree there are so many woman
out there that would die just to have the
chance to be pregnant or even adoupt a
baby. My mom was one of them. She had
cancer at the age of 20 and had both
overays removed which that caused her and
my dad not to be able to have kids of
there own. For 20 more yrs my mother
greved for a child. She would have gave
her own left arm just to be abel to get
pregnant or adoupt well finally. She meet
my grand mother and one thing led to
another and I was adoupted. You see my
mom was just a child having children I had
two twin older sister she had at 16. Then
a yr latter she had my brother then she
had me. All times she chose to give us up
for adoption. You see even though she her
self was a child she thought more of us
then to kill us. I am truly grateful to
her for that.
Then when I became 17 I got raped which
followed by a pregnancy. At first I
wanted to do the same thing have an
abortion but then I realized what did this
baby do. So I choise to keep it which I
ended up loosing several months later.
And I still to this day dont regret not
having an abortion.
Yes this is just my oppioun so that is all
I am saying. She asked for advice and
that was mine dont do it.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 09-20-05 11:51am
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As I am not sending any pms, I can't think
why someone believes they are being posted
*to*.
That is someone who resurrected a 3
month-old thread, and decided they needed
to moralise about someone who found
themselves in an unfortunate situation.
I really do sympathise with those who are
suffering infertility. But those who are
in this situation should also understand
that an unwanted pregnancy is as traumatic
as not being able to conceive when you do
want to.
The personal attacks on me are truly
bizarre. If someone wants to obsess
because they got called on being ignorant
to the op, that is just a bit immature.
Actually, their whole reaction is just
that little bit ott and scary, isn't it?
A little bit paranoid? Are there other
voices talking to you as well?
You are obviously very distressed by your
husband's sperm problems. Your jealousy
that other people conceive and then want
to abort is understandable. But you do
need to get a grip.
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PreciousBabies
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I Agree With Angel6932 And Mother_of_2
Posted: 09-20-05 12:49pm
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Angel,
i am so sorry to hear what you have been
through and I am glad that it made you a
stronger person. You were very brave and
I envy you for that...It takes a strong
woman to do what you did, even though that
baby didn't survive, you still gave it a
chance....I agree with you and also mother
of 2....Abortion is not the answer when
there are so many more options out
there....
God bless you all
preciousbabies
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Get On Track
Posted: 10-06-05 23:07pm
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Either get in the discussion about whether
or not a third abortion has an impact on
future fertility... Or not.
This is not a site designed for "soap
boxing" your individual opinions as much
as it is supposed to be about sharing
valid information.
To abort or not abort was not the
question.
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 10-07-05 03:58am
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oopoopoop
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Re: Get On Track
Posted: 10-07-05 06:53am
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| preciousbabies
wrote: |
anyone who aborts doesn't deserve to be
given other chances at conceiving another
child. So, I wish infertility on them,
so they can feel what it really feels like
to not be able to have a child ever.
Then maybe they will appreciate that child
inside them. It was a gift of god. I
hope that these people that use abortion
as a method of birth control realize one
day how special it is to be able to have
the opportunity to be able to conceive
without having fertility problems because
if they did have infertility problems,
they would know how all those infertile
people out there that can't have children
feel every single day of their lives when
they want a baby so bad that it just about
kills them. |
it is very fortunate that some people are
unable to have children. They are
ignorant, judgmental, irrational and
clearly unfit to pass on their inferior
dna. They should realise that if they are
unable to conceive, it is god's way of
telling them that they are not the
material he wants reproducing.
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PreciousBabies
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Posted: 10-09-05 03:05am
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oopoopoop
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Re: Get On Track
Posted: 10-09-05 10:00am
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| preciousbabies
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you really need to get a life....Besides
posting to me on here poopoopoo...And for
crying out loud get a real name you
loser....You sit there and deny posting to
me and then quote me??? Are you some
kind of derranged 42 year old. Get a
life and talk to people who want your
opinion because I am sick of it and I
already reported you once. Who is being
ignorant, judgmental, irrational?????
That would be you and hey fool god doesn't
decide that he chooses people who he
doesnt want reproducing. You really must
be retarted because everything you say
never makes any sense. Shut up and get a
life. I could care less what you have to
say. I am sure with ignorant posts like
that, neither do others. Grow up.
Obviously you have alot of that to
do. |
nowhere have I posted *to* anyone in
particular. Other posters have chosen
(strangely) to address me in particular
and call me names. Their problem. I have
had a lot of comments about my username,
which is a very strange thing for someone
to try to focus on. If anyone is
interested, I have explained before that
this was selected when I signed up on this
website because I had just been diagnosed
with the early stages of a chronic
disease. I knew that I was predisposed to
this but it normally shows up when people
are in their 20s or early 30s, so I had
thought I had escaped. My reaction to the
diagnosis was **it**it**it, but poopoopoo
seemed like a more polite way of
expressing this.
I comment in this thread to ensure that
anyone else reading it who may have been
in a similar position to the op is not
left reeling by the idiocy and judgmental
ignorance of others who have chosen to
comment. I have made no personal remarks
about other posters and their choices in
life. If someone is infertile and looking
for advice, they don't need some
god-spouting religious obsessive
holier-than-thou attitudes stuck in their
face. If someone chooses to pray, that is
their business.
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herbsandcures
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Straight Talk
Posted: 10-10-05 09:04am
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A simple straight forward question
requiring a simple answer. Does abortion
one and more than one make it difficult to
get pregnant in the future.
There have been a lot of research and lots
of statistical data pointing both ways.
The uncertainity still remains and with
possibilities of side effects of drugs
chances do remain of having problems
conceiving again later.
Having had an abortion already atleast
helps you to know what you will be going
through.
God willing if things go well you may not
have have any differrence in your
fertility.Make sure that the drug or
method you adopt to abort . Please do
enough research about the same and get
first hand opinion about the same. There
are many natural herbs taken in decoctions
to ensure continous fertility in a lady
after miscarriage which can be induced
called as abortion or natural .
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