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UK68

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Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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Honest Advice Needed
Posted: 06-13-05 06:35am

Hi
i want to share what’s being happening in my marriage over the last year as I am still very confused and need the benefit of some advice so I can make some sort of decisions on what to do.
We’ve been married nearly 14 years and have 2 children and have had our ups and downs but nothing major and I thought we were happy.
About a year ago my wife started using a forum quite heavily and had made a number of friends and as things progressed they all began to chat on a messenger service. She was online it seemed almost constantly, to the point where conversation was rare, and became very vague and protective of her online activities.
Consequently I became a little suspicious so had a look on the forum while she was at work and found that lot of her posts were very flirtatious so I had a look on her laptop where I knew she had photos and stuff of these people. There were a number of text files and I had a look and my suspicions were confirmed as I found some fairly intimate chats she had had with a particular person.
I was really hurt and upset about this and we had a lot of arguments and went through a fairly torrid time with threats of divorce and a lot of animosity between us. She stopped talking to the guy but I felt betrayed and unable to trust her and for a couple of months tried to keep tabs on her online activities as she continued to use the forum and messenger. Things came to a head when I started behaving unreasonably by accusing her of all sorts of things and I was unable to believe that she was acting innocently, particularly as she has a number of male contacts she talks to and again the arguments raged mainly because she felt that my constant checking was trapping her and making her feel stifled.
As time went on however, I managed to stop this horrible jealous feeling I was getting and things were calming down. She was still online quite heavily but as she explained, these people were just friends and nothing was happening and I was eventually happy with that.
Some of her friends came and went as online friendships sometimes do and a few months back a guy came on the scene very regularly. I only know of this as sometimes she would she would show me things on her pc and she was in private message with this guy every time (i had promised never to check on her late last year and I haven’t !! ) and sometimes I got the feeling that maybe it was happening again and a couple of times I bought up the subject but she’s just get annoyed and tell me that I had to trust her and that nothing was happening, so I let things rest and tried not to worry about it.
However a few weeks back, she was as usual at her laptop chatting away and I was in and out of the room, she had shown me a number of funny items on the forum and one time as I walked in I glanced down at the screen. She was in pm with this guy and all I saw was him telling her how he had been masturbating over her picture. I didn’t say anything for a while and later that evening asked her what exactly she did talk about with this guy as they had been chatting for some months almost constantly. She said it was just idle chit chat so I asked her what he meant by the masturbation thing. Immediately she got upset, I was accused of snooping over her shoulder and then told that there was nothing untoward going on to which I replied that there were certain things that people can say which I deem unacceptable and that was one of them. She agreed and has since said that she has sorted it with this guy so it won’t happen again but that she will not stop talking to him as she will not be dictated to who she can talk to by me.
I’m really upset that this has happened and I don’t know how to react. I deliberately bad mouthed the guy last night and she defended him and said that my comments were unfounded and that she will not stop talking to him for my sake and now the subject matter is strictly off limits. I’m upset by this as I can’t work out whether I am being unreasonable and dictatorial or whether she is overstepping the relationship boundaries, whatever we can no longer talk about it and if I don’t like who she is talking to and that she is almost constantly online whilst at home, then it is my problem to sort and not hers.
I’m at a loss what to think, she has said within the last 48 hours that our relationship is fine and that she loves me, but on the other hand talks online with a guy who obviously has some sort of thing for her…….Am I unreasonable??????
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twentyone

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Joined: 15 Mar 2005
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Location: uk

Posted: 06-13-05 07:18am

Hi,

im sure you are feeling really bad at the minute, and my advice is probably not going to give you much of a plesent outlook either. You did say you wanted an honest opionion. First of all I think that your wifes constant online chatting is completly unacceptable! You are most certainly not being unreasonable here. Me and my boyfriend both met online and since we got together 2 yrs ago either one of us has went online, most of online chat is just flirty behaviour. I mean there is a lot of lonely people looking to chat to people about idle chit chat as your wife would say but I am guessing that your wife and these men are not some of them.

You seem a very honest guy as when you promised that you would not snoop into her computer you havent! That is a really hard thing for you to do im sure. I think your wife is totally out of order and needs to make up her mind what she wants and fast. It is pure selfishness that she is acting this way with you.

Talk to her and explain that you are no way being unreasonable and are not trying to boss her but there is a line and you are not going to let her cross it and ruin a marriage over a few pms online. Your wife gotta make her mind up its not right and its not fair.

I hope you will keep your spirits high and I wish you all the luck in the world. Im sorry if I havent said wot you would have liked to hear.
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Justin_Toronto

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Joined: 28 Jan 2005
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Posted: 06-27-05 13:16pm

Look, I don't care if this is online or in person. She has stepped relationship boundaries a number of times and continues to do so. He's masturbating to her picture, ok... So what kind of pictures is she taking and sending to him? What has he sent her? ... Anything over webcam?... How long will it take before he comes down to meet up with her, or has it happened already?

She needs some excitement in her life, and this is how she is getting it.. Which is understandable, but does not make it acceptable.

Brother, you need to get your act together and do something.. You're way to idle about this. Violence, yelling, jealously, none of this is acceptable ways to rebute. And it's fairly obvious that conversation will not take you very far, since she pulls the "stop being jealous", and "nothing wrong, stop making something out of nothing" in efforts to turn the table around to make you the person at fault.

This isn't right, period.
Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
You're being cheated on, plain and simple. If she wasn't, she wouldn't hide anything... Where's the trust?

Pm me if you need to talk.

Good luck,
justin
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winky2

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 33
Hi
Posted: 06-30-05 19:22pm

My husband used to push me around and threaten me that he'd leave me penniless and take our kids away permanently...He never took me on a date, ever...He liked to read his own things and was grumpy all of the time, especially if "we" bugged him from his own aspirations...
That being said, yes I met someone online and it evolved like crazy...I was scared of my husband and his threats, I never felt loved, and I wanted to have a home with my kids...Yet there was the "me" part that was left over, that's where someone got an "in" with me...
My husband died in a car accident, and then the online affair fell apart, and I felt guilty though I never met him and though my husband was purely a *hit towards me...After he died I learned my dear departed was already making lawyer plans to destroy what little I had (my kids, I have no family)
sometimes the online thing is only a fantastical exploration of "what ifs"...To me I was too scared to leave, he'd have tried to ruin me and take my most precious things...My children...I never even knew if I was attractive, I never knew who I was, all I knew was the denegration I got from my husband...
I know she's cheating but if you care to know why you might find that she does need to know something about herself that she's not knowing through you...For me it was that I could be loved, that I was lovable, attractive...These are basic human concepts, and if they're not being fulfilled in the relationship, people will go outside of the relationship...
I'm a widow now and got life insurance and my kids, and I had a hard time grieving over their daddy, really I did...I still shudder at his physical attacks and verbal threats and telling me I was not as good as "other women"...His family heard only about the online affair, and they dis'ed me totally and don't even talk to our kids (now none of us have any family at all anywhere) and never knew of his abuse...But it's ok to get as many dysfunctional people out of my life!
I'm in a 5 year relationship now, this man just loves me, my kids, and worships the ground I walk on...I have higher self respect than I ever did, and because I was an abused/neglected child I did not have expectation for good treatment entering into marriage, but now I do expect to be treated well (even if you don't expect it, when you don't get treated well it still hurts)...
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CTC5747

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Posts: 5
Location: ny
Hi
Posted: 07-05-05 19:12pm

No, I do not think that you are being unreasonable in any way whatsoever. Your wife shouldn't be talking to other men who are using any profnaity towards her. I feel your pain, me and my ex boyfriend had the same problem, where I was the one being insecure about his computer use. He thought that I was being unreasonable, but I only wanted to be able to trust him. Things will get better, they did for me :).
Sincerely,
vickie
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