White Babies Only..margaret Sanger Felt the Same Way Posted: 06-14-05 16:57pm
Margaret sanger was the founder of the
international planned parenthood
federation. Here are some of her
quotes.
"we should hire three or four colored
ministers, preferably with social-service
backgrounds, and with engaging
personalities. The most successful
educational approach to the negro is
through a religious appeal. We don't want
the word to go out that we want to
exterminate the negro population. And the
minister is the man who can straighten out
that idea if it ever occurs to any of
their more rebellious members."
--margaret sanger's december 19, 1939
letter to Dr. Clarence gamble, 255 adams
street, milton, massachusetts. Original
source: sophia smith collection, smith
college, north hampton, massachusetts.
Also described in linda gordon's woman's
body, woman's right: a social history of
birth control in america. New york:
grossman publishers, 1976.
"eugenic sterilization is an urgent need
... We must prevent multiplication of
this bad stock."
--margaret sanger, april 1933 birth
control review.
"our failure to segregate morons who are
increasing and multiplying ...
Demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant
sentimentalism ... [philanthropists]
encourage the healthier and more normal
sections of the world to shoulder the
burden of unthinking and indiscriminate
fecundity of others; which brings with it,
as I think the reader must agree, a dead
weight of human waste. Instead of
decreasing and aiming to eliminate the
stocks that are most detrimental to the
future of the race and the world, it tends
to render them to a menacing degree
dominant ... We are paying for, and even
submitting to, the dictates of an
ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning
class of human beings who never should
have been born at all."
--margaret sanger. The pivot of
civilization, 1922. Chapter on "the
cruelty of charity," pages 116, 122, and
189. Swarthmore college library edition.
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mom2ty
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Posted: 06-14-05 17:00pm
"eugenics is … the most adequate and
thorough avenue to the solution of racial,
political and social problems.
Margaret sanger. "the eugenic value of
birth control propaganda." birth control
review, october 1921, page 5.
"give dysgenic groups [people with 'bad
genes'] in our population their choice of
segregation or [compulsory]
sterilization."
margaret sanger, april 1932 birth control
review.
"as we celebrate the 100th birthday of
margaret sanger, our outrageous and our
courageous leader, we will probably find a
number of areas in which we may find more
about margaret sanger than we thought we
wanted to know..."
faye wattleton, past-president of planned
parenthood
margaret sanger, founder of planned
parenthood, proposed the american baby
code that states, "no woman shall have the
legal right to bear a child… without a
permit for parenthood".
Margaret sanger, founder of planned
parenthood, proposed the population
congress with the aim, "...To give certain
dysgenic groups in our population their
choice of segregation or sterilization."
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-14-05 17:26pm
Margaret sanger was a fruit cake!
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mom2ty
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Re: White Babies Only..margaret Sanger Felt the Same Way Posted: 06-14-05 17:30pm
pcforme
wrote:
mom2ty
wrote:
margaret sanger was the
founder of the international planned
parenthood
federation.
nice to see you putting m s in the same
boat as g w
b.
what r u talking about?
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-14-05 17:36pm
mom2trevor
wrote:
margaret sanger was a fruit
cake!
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mom2ty
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Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
Posted: 06-14-05 17:42pm
pcforme
wrote:
mom2trevor
wrote:
margaret sanger was a fruit
cake!
no, she was a woman fighting for women's
rights in the early 20th century. Some
of her ideas have been twisted by the
right to show her as an evil do-er, but
she was doing what she thought would help
women/families at that time in
history.
these are words straight out of her mouth.
She said them. People didn't say them
for her. Get it, these are h. E. R.
Words. Not the pl's. Sorry that you
can't accept the fact that your precious
planned parenthood is founded by a sicko
that had the ultimate goal of weeding out
the "unfit" (her words) race. But it's
true.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-14-05 18:02pm
Sometimes the truth isn't as we would like
it to be...But it doesn't make it any less
the truth.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-14-05 19:23pm
pcforme
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
sometimes the truth isn't as
we would like it to be...But it doesn't
make it any less the
truth.
unfortunately, the quotes have been cut
out of the original text to simple sound
bites.
still they are her quotes.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 06-14-05 20:43pm
You need to look at the positives, not
always the negatives. It has helped a lot
of people.
Sincerely,
sandy
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mom2ty
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Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
Posted: 06-14-05 21:17pm
sandyallen
wrote:
you need to look at the
positives, not always the negatives. It
has helped a lot of people.
Sincerely,
sandy
you're still posting messages that don't
make any sense. Why don't you ever
elaborate?
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mom2ty
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Posted: 06-14-05 21:40pm
pcforme
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
pcforme
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
sometimes the truth isn't as
we would like it to be...But it doesn't
make it any less the
truth.
unfortunately, the quotes have been cut
out of the original text to simple sound
bites.
still they are her
quotes.
sounds bites. Twisted. If she was
such a racist pig, show the whole
text.
hey, i've got a better idea. Since you
know so much, why don't you give us the
rest of her text.
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-14-05 21:54pm
sandyallen
wrote:
you need to look at the
positives, not always the negatives. It
has helped a lot of people.
Sincerely,
sandy
so racism has helped a lot of people? I
failed to miss that one in history class.
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mom2ty
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Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
Posted: 06-14-05 22:31pm
pcforme
wrote:
mom2ty
wrote:
hey, i've got a better idea.
Since you know so much, why don't you
give us the rest of her
text.
why don't you? I'm not the one posting
bits and pieces to decieve and lie to
people.
once again, you can't back up your claims.
Sad.
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mom2trevor
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Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
Posted: 06-14-05 22:34pm
mom2ty
wrote:
pcforme
wrote:
mom2ty
wrote:
hey, i've got a better idea.
Since you know so much, why don't you
give us the rest of her
text.
why don't you? I'm not the one posting
bits and pieces to decieve and lie to
people.
once again, you can't back up your claims.
Sad.
oh what a surprise...The liar asking for
evidence..Lol....That's too funny!
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mom2trevor
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Re: White Babies Only..margaret Sanger Felt the Same Way Posted: 06-14-05 23:12pm
mom2ty
wrote:
margaret sanger was the
founder of the international planned
parenthood federation. Here are some of
her quotes.
"we should hire three or four colored
ministers, preferably with social-service
backgrounds, and with engaging
personalities. The most successful
educational approach to the negro is
through a religious appeal. We don't
want the word to go out that we want to
exterminate the negro population. And
the minister is the man who can straighten
out that idea if it ever occurs to any of
their more rebellious members."
--margaret sanger's december 19, 1939
letter to Dr. Clarence gamble, 255 adams
street, milton, massachusetts. Original
source: sophia smith collection, smith
college, north hampton, massachusetts.
Also described in linda gordon's woman's
body, woman's right: a social history of
birth control in america. New york:
grossman publishers, 1976.
"eugenic sterilization is an urgent need
... We must prevent multiplication of
this bad stock."
--margaret sanger, april 1933 birth
control review.
"our failure to segregate morons who are
increasing and multiplying ...
Demonstrates our foolhardy and extravagant
sentimentalism ... [philanthropists]
encourage the healthier and more normal
sections of the world to shoulder the
burden of unthinking and indiscriminate
fecundity of others; which brings with it,
as I think the reader must agree, a dead
weight of human waste. Instead of
decreasing and aiming to eliminate the
stocks that are most detrimental to the
future of the race and the world, it tends
to render them to a menacing degree
dominant ... We are paying for, and even
submitting to, the dictates of an
ever-increasing, unceasingly spawning
class of human beings who never should
have been born at all."
--margaret sanger. The pivot of
civilization, 1922. Chapter on "the
cruelty of charity," pages 116, 122, and
189. Swarthmore college library
edition.
i'm sure that pro-choice will go to great
lengths to prove what a noble and
wonderful person she was.....She was
nothing but a racist fool. And these are
still her quotes.
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-14-05 23:24pm
pcforme
wrote:
mom2trevor
wrote:
i'm sure that pro-choice
will go to great lengths to prove what a
noble and wonderful person she was.....She
was nothing but a racist fool. And
these are still her
quotes.
and how many people back then weren't
racist? Crips, my great grandmother was
racist. That is the era they lived in.
Margaret sanger was human... She had
faults, just like anyone. You demonize
her faults and don't even look at her
positives. She did quite a bit for
women's reproductive rights in the early
1900's.
again...She was a racist fool.
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-14-05 23:44pm
Anyone that could think the way that she
thought...Is an fool. There is no arguing
it...She was a heartless, vile,
disgusting, racist fool. I don't know how
in the world anyone could defend the
things that she has said. Reproductive
rights is simply a political frame hiding
the truth of what *right* you really have
and that's the *right to kill*
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-15-05 00:48am
pcforme
wrote:
mom2trevor
wrote:
anyone that could think the
way that she thought...Is an fool.
There is no arguing it...She was a
heartless, vile, disgusting, racist fool.
I don't know how in the world anyone
could defend the things that she has said.
Reproductive rights is simply a
political frame hiding the truth of what
*right* you really have and that's the
*right to
kill*
except most people back then were racist.
That was the way society was back
then.
And I don't agee with everything she said,
nor do I agree with everything the aclu or
pp does.
just as I don't agree with people such as
"the army of god".
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mom2ty
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Re: White Babies Only..margaret Sanger Felt the Same Way Posted: 06-15-05 07:34am
pcforme
wrote:
mom2trevor
wrote:
i'm sure that pro-choice
will go to great lengths to prove what a
noble and wonderful person she was.....She
was nothing but a racist fool. And
these are still her
quotes.
and how many people back then weren't
racist? Crips, my great grandmother was
racist. That is the era they lived in.
Margaret sanger was human... She had
faults, just like anyone. You demonize
her faults and don't even look at her
positives. She did quite a bit for
women's reproductive rights in the early
1900's.
the simple fact is that she supported
"reproductive rights" in an effort to weed
out the "unfit race" of people. Rich,
white girls were not her target audience.
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trina1
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Re: White Babies Only..margaret Sanger Felt the Same Way Posted: 06-15-05 11:00am
pcforme
wrote:
mom2ty
wrote:
the simple fact is that she
supported "reproductive rights" in an
effort to weed out the "unfit race" of
people. Rich, white girls were not her
target
audience.
reproductive rights had to start
somewhere. I'm sure you aren't
demonizing the founding father's
considering they were also a bunch of
"racist
idiots".
