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mom2trevor

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Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-14-05 22:31pm

Small drop in abortion rate


the rate of abortions has fallen slightly, from 21 to 20.5 in every 1,000 women aged 15 to 44



15 june 2005

the abortion rate has fallen for the first time since 1998.


It is down from 21 abortions for every 1,000 woman aged 15 to 44, to 20.5.


Just over 10,000 procedures were carried out last year in that age group.


Women aged 20 to 24 had more abortions than other age groups, accounting for approximately three out of every 10.


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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 11:09am

mom2trevor wrote:
small drop in abortion rate


the rate of abortions has fallen slightly, from 21 to 20.5 in every 1,000 women aged 15 to 44



15 june 2005

the abortion rate has fallen for the first time since 1998.



It is down from 21 abortions for every 1,000 woman aged 15 to 44, to 20.5.



Just over 10,000 procedures were carried out last year in that age group.



Women aged 20 to 24 had more abortions than other age groups, accounting for approximately three out of every 10.


Http: //home.Nzcity.Co.Nz/news/default.Asp?Id=52 135&c=w



steen and pcforme must be so upset.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 13:53pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
steen and pcforme must be so upset.


and that would be because?


you don't care about anyone but yourself.
You're selfish.
You don't care about all human life.
You think one life trumps another.
You are only for choice for a few.

You pick one...They all fit.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 14:05pm

I care a great deal about people that earn my respect.


Respect from you is the last thing I would want. The day I earn your respect is the day I know I have lost all moral fiber and have gone over to the dark side. It will never happen.



Why? Cuz I don't believe in enslaving women to their bodies?


Can't call someone a slave who willingly put themselves into the shackles. Stupid maybe....But not a slave.




I care about born human life and not physically dependant life.


So I guess you aren't crazy about those in nursing homes, wheel chairs, those with cp, or any other infirmity. Good to know for future reference.




I think one person's rights to their body trumps another's wish to use it.



Again...Very telling. Guess that means you won't be donating any body parts to dying people. Like that is a big shocker. Selfish...Selfish...Selfish. Just remember...You could need a body part someday. What comes around goes around.



A few? I would hardly call 1/2 the born population world wide a "few".


Again...Justification for a horrific act.

And still doesn't answer the question why I would be upset the abortion rates are dropping.


I answered...But obviously your reading skills aren't up to par. Perhaps when you call others an fool....You are merely projecting. [/quote]
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 14:20pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
respect from you is the last thing I would want. The day I earn your respect is the day I know I have lost all moral fiber and have gone over to the dark side. It will never happen.


you already are there.




Yeah....Fighting for human life is real immoral. Lol


trina1 wrote:
can't call someone a slave who willingly put themselves into the shackles.


glad to see you are finally admitting you think pregnancy is a punishment for sex.




Never said that....Just commenting on you silly "enslaved" remark. I actually believe that pregnancy and children are a gift.




trina1 wrote:
so I guess you aren't crazy about those in nursing homes, wheel chairs, those with cp, or any other infirmity. Good to know for future reference.


are people in nursing homes physically attached to someone else to live? Didn't think so.



Not what you said at all....You said..."i care about born human life and not physically dependant life. " you didn't say physically dependant on what....You said physically dependant. Yes....People in nursing homes are often times physically dependant. Now don't go trying to justify what you said. I am sure you have little or no tolerance for anyone you don't consider female, pro-abort, and physically perfect.





trina1 wrote:
again...Very telling. Guess that means you won't be donating any body parts to dying people. Like that is a big shocker.
Selfish...Selfish...Selfish. Just remember...You could need a body part someday. What comes around goes around.


organ donation is a choice as well, stupid. And since you don't know my whether or not I am an organ donor, you should .S.T.F.U and stop pretending to.




Oh...Struck a nerve did i. I am just going by what you have said. You don't believe on anyone being physically dependant....So it only serves to prove that you would never give one of your precious body parts to someone in need. After all....That would be "enslaving" you.




trina1 wrote:
again...Justification for a horrific act.


too bad, huh? War is horrible as well. I'm sure you are very pro war when your buddy .G.W.B makes them.



Actually I am very anti-war.


trina1 wrote:
i answered...But obviously your reading skills aren't up to par.


no, your just stupid. And you don't have the foggest clue about choice.


Good comeback. "stupid" and "fool" .....You must just be looking in a mirror. Surely you have something intelligent to come back with other than name calling. How sad. You argue with nothing to back it up.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 14:33pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
yeah....Fighting for human life is real immoral.


no, you only care about fetal life.


No...I care about all human life....And fetal life is in that category.



trina1 wrote:
never said that....Just commenting on you silly "enslaved" remark. I actually believe that pregnancy and children are a gift.


gifts can be returned.


You make a good point.

Perhaps you are right. Perhaps in your case a child would rather be aborted than to have a selfish individual such as yourself be their mother.


trina1 wrote:
not what you said at all....You said..."i care about born human life and not physically dependant life. " you didn't say physically dependant on what....You said physically dependant. Yes....People in nursing homes are often times physically dependant. Now don't go trying to justify what you said. I am sure you have little or no tolerance for anyone you don't consider female, pro-abort, and physically perfect.


of course not... You know everything about everyone, especially people over the internet.



I know only what you have revealed about yourself through your posts and what you have been quoted as saying. You are really pretty transparent.

trina1 wrote:
oh...Struck a nerve did i. I am just going by what you have said. You don't believe on anyone being physically dependant....So it only serves to prove that you would never give one of your precious body parts to someone in need. After all....That would be "enslaving" you.


and if I choose to do it, fine. Still having issues with that choice thing, huh?



No...Just am amazed at your selfishness.


trina1 wrote:
actually I am very anti-war.


somehow, I bet you still voted for pro war bush.



Oh...Now who thinks they know everything?Lol

but I guess as long as a fellow fundie is lying to you... Oh, wait... You are a lying fundie as well..



Coming from you.......That is a compliment.


trina1 wrote:
good comeback.


hey, when I see a stupid person, I feel the need to let them know the truth about their problem.


So you must talk to yourself in the mirror alot. :lol:
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 18:07pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
no...I care about all human life....And fetal life is in that category.


you you prioritize fetal over born life. At least I can admit I put born life before fetal life.

No...I believe all human life is equal....And no human life deserves to be destroyed at the whim of another.


trina1 wrote:
perhaps you are right. Perhaps in your case a child would rather be aborted than to have a selfish individual such as yourself be their mother.


yes, the old, tired "pcforme isn't a mother". You claim to know who I am. Prove it.

I don't have to. You prove it by everything you say.


trina1 wrote:
i know only what you have revealed about yourself through your posts and what you have been quoted as saying. You are really pretty transparent.


as are you.

Never claimed anything different. Never tried to hide anything either.


trina1 wrote:
no...Just am amazed at your selfishness.


you aren't selfish? Everyone is selfish. You are selfish by having children. You claim the fetus didn't ask to be concieved. Did you ask it if it didn't want to be concieved? You had children for selfish reasons.


Nice twist...But you are merely grasping at straws. You need to either get a better argument or give up arguing altogether.


trina1 wrote:
so you must talk to yourself in the mirror alot.


jesus must be so proud to have you on his side!


Why thank you. I hope he is.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 18:23pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
no...I believe all human life is equal....And no human life deserves to be destroyed at the whim of another.


do tell, fundie... How do you plan to give equal rights over a woman's uterus?


Oh...Now it is just her uterus. You are truly a hoot.

trina1 wrote:
i don't have to. You prove it by everything you say.


so you can't prove it. Didn't think so. And how can you have a grandchild when your daughter is only 9?

Where did I say I have a grandchild? Where did I say I have a daughter? Lol


trina1 wrote:
nice twist...But you are merely grasping at straws. You need to either get a better argument or give up arguing altogether.


again, you can't answer the question. How is having children not selfish?

God intended us to have children. He wanted us to procreate. You have a problem with that.....You talk to him. Lol
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 18:41pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
oh...Now it is just her uterus. You are truly a hoot.


who's uterus is it then?

That uterus contains a human life.


trina1 wrote:
god intended us to have children. He wanted us to procreate. You have a problem with that.....You talk to him.


i don't believe in god. And if god wanted us to procreate, why are some sterile/infertile? Why are women only able to get pregnant a few hours out of every cycle? Why doesn't sex always result in pregnancy?

Well I don't have the answers. The one you need to talk to is god and since you don't believe in him...I guess you are out of luck.

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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 18:48pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
that uterus contains a human life.


that wasn't my question. Who's uterus is it?

How do I know? Do you want names? Lol


trina1 wrote:
well I don't have the answers.


obviously.

Nice way to cut a quote. Typical pro-abort action.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 18:51pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
that uterus contains a human life.


that wasn't my question. Who's uterus is it?



How do I know? Do you want names? Lol


trina1 wrote:
well I don't have the answers.


obviously.



Nice way to cut a quote. Typical pro-abort action.
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name calling? Not you! You can't even admit the uterus is not the property of the fetus. Lame.


possession is 9/10th of the law...So I guess if the human life is living in it...It belongs to the fetus.

Now what name did I call you?
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 19:03pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
that wasn't my question. Who's uterus is it?



How do I know?


did you no longer have a uterus when you were pregnant?



Well yes I do....But my child is growing inside of it and taking up residence for 9 months....So I guess it belongs to the human life inside me....For 9 months anyway.



trina1 wrote:
possession is 9/10th of the law...So I guess if the human life is living in it...It belongs to the fetus.


actually, since the uterus is inside the woman, and the fetus is inside her as well, it is hers. Thanks again for proving my point!


Who says? The human life is residing there....So I think the human life has some claim on it. Honey...The only point you have is on the top of your head. :lol:
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 19:21pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
did you no longer have a uterus when you were pregnant?


Well yes I do....But my child is growing inside of it and taking up residence for 9 months....So I guess it belongs to the human life inside me....For 9 months anyway.


no, it still is yours. But you are allowing the fetus to us it. Your choice.


trina1 wrote:
who says? The human life is residing there....So I think the human life has some claim on it.


no, both reside in you. Therefore, you own both according to your 9/10th rule.


well whatever you say....Afterall you are the one who knows everything about everything. :lol:
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-15-05 19:27pm

pcforme wrote:
trina1 wrote:
no, both reside in you. Therefore, you own both according to your 9/10th rule.


well whatever you say....Afterall you are the one who knows everything about everything. :lol:


yes, I know where a fetus and uterus reside. What a freakin einstein I am, huh?[/quote]


freaky einstein is right. Lol...Now you are even calling yourself names. You are twisted.
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-15-05 19:29pm

*mine, mine, mine*.........
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steen

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-16-05 17:20pm

trina1 wrote:
well whatever you say....Afterall you are the one who knows everything about everything. :lol:
hmm, when you finally are proven wrong, you don't have the common decency to acknowledhe it. What a coward you are.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-16-05 17:21pm

steen wrote:
trina1 wrote:
well whatever you say....Afterall you are the one who knows everything about everything. :lol:
hmm, when you finally are proven wrong, you don't have the common decency to acknowledhe it. What a coward you are.



coward? Me? I hardly think so...But then again...You are entitled to your own opinion...And I respect your right to have one. :)
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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-16-05 17:25pm

trina1 wrote:
coward? Me? I hardly think so
yeah, that shows how stupid you are, not even recognizing when you are a coward and avoid the issues. Pl are such incredibly' losers.
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trina1

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Re: Hopefully It Will Keep Dropping!
Posted: 06-16-05 17:35pm

steen wrote:
trina1 wrote:
coward? Me? I hardly think so
yeah, that shows how stupid you are, not even recognizing when you are a coward and avoid the issues. Pl are such incredibly' losers.


you are no longer worthy of my time or attention. I am done with you.
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steen

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Posted: 06-16-05 17:38pm

Well, that's one way for cowards like you to run away from facing responsibility for your lies. Lame.
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