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Re: How Sick Posted: 06-15-05 10:53am
pcforme
wrote:
fishx
wrote:
can any of you pro choicers
justify this?
can you show a non anti choice web site as
a reference? World net daily isn't a
reputable source for
me.
so don't read it. It works for me.
:wink:
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 06-15-05 11:19am
I've read that fish and it's horrible and
nasty!!
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trina1
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Posted: 06-15-05 11:33am
mom2trevor
wrote:
i've read that fish and it's
horrible and
nasty!!
just another one of the great abortionists
this country has to offer. :twisted:
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msrosie
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Posted: 06-16-05 10:29am
There are incompetents and psychos in
every aspect of medicine - why do people
use the psychos in abortion as a reason to
ban the procedure? Should we use the
pedophile priests in the catholic church
as a reason to ban religion?
Incompetent or dangerous doctors in any
specialty should lose their license -
cardiology, orthopedics, neurology,
pediatrics, gp's, obgyns, etc etc.
Rosie
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FISHX
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Posted: 06-16-05 10:33am
msrosie
wrote:
there are incompetents and
psychos in every aspect of medicine - why
do people use the psychos in abortion as a
reason to ban the procedure? Should we
use the pedophile priests in the catholic
church as a reason to ban religion
rosie
yes please that would be a start.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 06-16-05 11:24am
Barforama
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steen
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Posted: 06-16-05 12:52pm
Funny how only the rabidly anti-choice
lying worldnetdaily have "picked up" on
this story. Perhaps you can show where
some real news service have found this
claim credible?
But I guess that when you are fed lies,
you gobble them up
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trina1
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Posted: 06-16-05 12:53pm
msrosie
wrote:
there are incompetents and
psychos in every aspect of medicine - why
do people use the psychos in abortion as a
reason to ban the procedure? Should we
use the pedophile priests in the catholic
church as a reason to ban religion?
Incompetent or dangerous doctors in any
specialty should lose their license -
cardiology, orthopedics, neurology,
pediatrics, gp's, obgyns, etc etc.
Rosie
maybe the same reasons that pc'ers always
jump to the conclusion that all pl'ers
want to kill abortion drs and clinic
workers, and want to bomb abortion
clinics.
I agree....There are extremists in every
walk of life. These few don't represent
the whole. Perhaps that needs to be
remembered the next time someone goes off
on a tangent about all pl'ers wanting to
kill those that preform abortions. Just a
thought.
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Posted: 06-16-05 14:40pm
trina1
wrote:
maybe the same reasons that pc'ers always
jump to the conclusion that all pl'ers
want to kill abortion drs and clinic
workers, and want to bomb abortion
clinics.
I agree....There are extremists in every
walk of life. These few don't represent
the whole. Perhaps that needs to be
remembered the next time someone goes off
on a tangent about all pl'ers wanting to
kill those that preform abortions. Just
a thought.
i don't believe that I have ever said that
they did.
Rosie
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trina1
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Posted: 06-16-05 15:09pm
msrosie
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
maybe the same reasons that pc'ers always
jump to the conclusion that all pl'ers
want to kill abortion drs and clinic
workers, and want to bomb abortion
clinics.
I agree....There are extremists in every
walk of life. These few don't represent
the whole. Perhaps that needs to be
remembered the next time someone goes off
on a tangent about all pl'ers wanting to
kill those that preform abortions. Just
a thought.
i don't believe that I have ever said that
they did.
Rosie
i wasn't talking about you personally. I
think we all know who I was referring to.
And not just her either. I have heard
that many times. We tend to clump all
into one group.
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steen
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<
/table>and
every one of the first 20 links (i didn't
bother to go back any further) referred
back to the wnd article. That means that
none of these sources are reporting their
own stuff, merely re-stating wnd's
article. So?
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trina1
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<
/table>and
every one of the first 20 links (i didn't
bother to go back any further) referred
back to the wnd article. That means
that none of these sources are reporting
their own stuff, merely re-stating wnd's
article.
So?
pro-choicers never do that. :roll:
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steen
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<
/table>and
every one of the first 20 links (i didn't
bother to go back any further) referred
back to the wnd article. That means
that none of these sources are reporting
their own stuff, merely re-stating wnd's
article.
So?
pro-choicers never do
that.
:roll:
eh? Fishx seemed to try
to respond to the claim of other,
reputable news sources reporting on this.
But as fishx's link to google showed, the
sources all merely re-reported the wnd's
unsubstantiated claim.
As I pointed out, if this had really
occured, it would be big news and we would
see it on cnn and abc.
Instead, we get tabloid lies, and you
fools gobbling up as it it was real.
Now, about that two-headed martian...
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trina1
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<
/table>and
every one of the first 20 links (i didn't
bother to go back any further) referred
back to the wnd article. That means
that none of these sources are reporting
their own stuff, merely re-stating wnd's
article.
So?
pro-choicers never do
that.
:roll:
eh? Fishx seemed to
try to respond to the claim of other,
reputable news sources reporting on this.
But as fishx's link to google showed,
the sources all merely re-reported the
wnd's unsubstantiated claim.
As I pointed out, if this had really
occured, it would be big news and we would
see it on cnn and abc.
If it didn't really occur....Don't you
think pc'ers near and far would be having
a field day with the supposed lie? Don't
you think lawsuits would be flying and
that pc'ers would be using this to the
hilt to prove what "liars" pro-lifers are?
Use your head. The pc'ers aren't saying
a word...Why? Most likely because it is
true...And they know it is.
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steen
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Posted: 06-16-05 15:54pm
trina1
wrote:
if it didn't really
occur....Don't you think pc'ers near and
far would be having a field day with the
supposed lie? Don't you think lawsuits
would be flying and that pc'ers would be
using this to the hilt to prove what
"liars" pro-lifers are? Use your head.
The pc'ers aren't saying a word...Why?
Most likely because it is true...And they
know it is.
person fool liar, pl do
this all the time. This is just another
of the incessant, rightwing fascist lies
that are spewed day and night from pl.
It is pointless to bother with any big
dealing with that.
And we already proved that you guys lie
all the time, as when we point out your
lies about fetal pain, about
abortion/breast cancer, about near-term
abortions and what not. Yes, you guys
lie all the time, this is just another in
your long list of lies, incredibly'
scumbag creeps.
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trina1
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Posted: 06-16-05 15:57pm
steen
wrote:
trina1
wrote:
if it didn't really
occur....Don't you think pc'ers near and
far would be having a field day with the
supposed lie? Don't you think lawsuits
would be flying and that pc'ers would be
using this to the hilt to prove what
"liars" pro-lifers are? Use your head.
The pc'ers aren't saying a word...Why?
Most likely because it is true...And
they know it
is.
person fool liar, pl do
this all the time. This is just another
of the incessant, rightwing fascist lies
that are spewed day and night from pl.
It is pointless to bother with any big
dealing with that.
And we already proved that you guys lie
all the time, as when we point out your
lies about fetal pain, about
abortion/breast cancer, about near-term
abortions and what not. Yes, you guys
lie all the time, this is just another in
your long list of lies, incredibly'
scumbag
creeps.
and you are entitled to your opinion.
Thank you so much for sharing your
thoughts and feelings with us. But as
anyone with a ounce of since knows...All
you have proven here is what "you"
personally think and feel. Nothing more.
I am sure if anyone is really interested
in what the "truth" is....They will
research for themselves.... Make up their
own mind....And not simply take one
individuals one-sided opinion as fact.
Again...Thank you for sharing.
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trina1
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state board revokes abortion doctor’s
license
by john hanna - associated press writer
sunday, june 12, 2005
topeka — more than two months after
disciplinary action forced him to close
his kansas city, kan., abortion clinic,
Dr. Krishna rajanna has lost his
license.
Advertisement
the state board of healing arts voted
unanimously saturday to revoke rajanna’s
license. Earlier this year, his case
became the focus of a legislative debate
over regulating abortion clinics.
A board inspector made two surprise visits
in march to rajanna’s clinic, reporting
that the facility was unclean and that
rajanna and his staff kept syringes of
medications in an unlocked refrigerator.
The inspector also reported finding a dead
mouse in the hallway.
Rajanna argued that he had not been given
an opportunity to meet with the inspector
to correct the deficiencies. He also said
in his 10 years of performing abortions in
kansas city, no patient has ever
complained about his care.
But board members concluded that
rajanna’s clinic represented a danger
and said that as a doctor, he shouldn’t
have needed the board’s prodding to keep
a clinic clean and safe.
Rajanna can appeal the decision to
district court. His attorney, robert
manske, said rajanna will decide soon
whether to challenge the board’s
action.
Manske told the board that revoking
rajanna’s license would hurt poor
patients, saying rajanna’s clinic
operated in a low-income neighborhood and
charged reasonable fees for services no
one else would provide. Manske also said
the problems cited by the inspector could
be corrected.
“it’s kind of like driving a tack with
a sledge hammer in this case,” he told
the board. “there are no patients in
here telling you he did bad things to
them.”
but board member nancy welsh, a
topeka-area doctor, said the board should
not permit lesser standards of cleanliness
and safety because a clinic’s patients
are poor.
Board members also noted that rajanna had
been previously disciplined, in 2000 and
2001, for not properly testing his
patients for their blood types and for
improperly labeling medications. Also, in
february, rajanna signed an agreement to
improve his clinic’s conditions and paid
a $1,000 fine.
Rajanna told board members he’d improved
the labeling of syringes containing
medicines for patients and had wanted to
have the inspector review them.
But board member ronald whitmer, an
ellsworth osteopath, said he didn’t care
whether the inspector or someone else
would have told rajanna if the labels were
proper.
“that’s something you should have
learned in medical school,” he told
rajanna.
Rajanna’s clinic became part of the
legislature’s debate on abortion last
year, when atty. Gen. Phill kline
released photos he said an informant had
taken inside the clinic in 2003.
Kathleen ostrowski, legislative research
director for kansans for life, the
state’s largest anti-abortion group,
noted the lag in time between questions
about rajanna’s clinic first arising and
the board revoking his license.
Also, she said, many poor women won’t
come forward if they’re harmed by an
abortion, out of fear, shame or a lack of
medical knowledge.
With rajanna’s case pending, abortion
opponents won legislative approval this
year of a bill requiring abortion clinics
to obtain an annual license from the
department of health and environment, hire
surgeons as their medical directors and
report patient deaths to the state within
a day. The measure also mandated that
kdhe set standards for equipment, medical
screenings, ventilation and lighting.
But gov. Kathleen sebelius, an abortion
rights supporter, vetoed the measure,
saying medical professionals — not
legislators — should set standards.
Ostrowski said rajanna’s clinic should
have been shut down long before it was.
“what other branch of medicine could get
away with any of this?” she said.
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Posted: 06-16-05 16:17pm
Yeah, let people " make up their own mind"
about a pl lie. Yes, you wouldn't mind
of some pl are stupid enough to believe
it. Pl do seem to believe a lot of lies,
after all.
Per pc's question, when this is proven to
be just another hyperbolic lie, you will
"forget" to admit that you are wrong,
instead running with the next pl lie.
Nice dishonest game you are playing there,
showing yourself to be a true pl.
