Abortion Debate Forum - How Sick page 2
medical questions | health forums log in    

How Sick

New Topic  This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.  Ask A Doctor - Offline
Medical Questions-> Health Forums -> Abortion Debate -> How Sick
Author Message
steen

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Upper Midwest

Posted: 06-16-05 16:19pm

Nice repost, trina. Where did it say anything about eating fetuses? Gee, could it be just another pl hyperbolic lie? Nah, really? Business as usual? Be still my heart, I can't take the surprise.
|
trina1

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 528
Location: , Lost in Oz.

Posted: 06-16-05 16:20pm

Published sunday, june 12, 2005

board revokes abortion doctor's license

kansas city, kan., physician cited previously for poor conditions

a d v e r t I s e m e n t
by john hanna
the associated press
more than two months after disciplinary action forced him to close his kansas city, kan., abortion clinic, Dr. Krishna rajanna has lost his license.

The state board of healing arts voted unanimously saturday to revoke rajanna's license. Earlier this year, his case became the focus of a legislative debate over regulating abortion clinics.

A board inspector made two surprise visits in march to rajanna's clinic, reporting that the facility was unclean and that rajanna and his staff kept syringes of medications in an unlocked refrigerator. The inspector also reported finding a dead mouse in the hallway.

Rajanna argued that he hadn't been given an opportunity to meet with the inspector to correct the deficiencies. He also said in his 10 years of performing abortions in kansas city, no patient has ever complained about his care.

But board members concluded that rajanna's clinic represented a danger and said that as a doctor, he shouldn't have needed the board's prodding to keep a clinic clean and safe.

Rajanna can appeal the decision to district court. His attorney, robert manske, said rajanna will decide soon whether to challenge the board's action.

Manske told the board that revoking rajanna's license would hurt poor patients, saying rajanna's clinic operated in a low-income neighborhood and charged reasonable fees for services no one else would provide. Manske also said the problems cited by the inspector could be corrected.

"it's kind of like driving a tack with a sledge hammer in this case," he told the board. "there are no patients in here telling you he did bad things to them."

but board member nancy welsh, a topeka-area doctor, said the board shouldn't permit lesser standards of cleanliness and safety because a clinic's patients are poor.

"why do they deserve a dirty clinic?" she said.

Board members also noted that rajanna had been previously disciplined, in 2000 and 2001, for not properly testing his patients for their blood types and for improperly labeling medications. Also, in february, rajanna signed an agreement to improve his clinic's conditions and paid a $1,000 fine.

Rajanna told board members he had improved the labeling of syringes containing medicines for patients and had wanted to have the inspector review them.

But board member ronald whitmer, an ellsworth osteopath, said he didn't care whether the inspector or someone else would have told rajanna if the labels were proper.

"that's something you should have learned in medical school," he told rajanna.

Rajanna's clinic became part of the legislature's debate on abortion last year when attorney general phill kline released photos he said an informant had taken inside the clinic in 2003.

Kathleen ostrowski, legislative research director for kansans for life, the state's largest anti-abortion group, noted the lag in time between questions about rajanna's clinic first arising and the board revoking his license.

Also, she said, many poor women won't come forward if they're harmed by an abortion, out of fear, shame or a lack of medical knowledge.

"there is a problem here," she said. "is the public being protected?"

with rajanna's case pending, abortion opponents won legislative approval this year of a bill requiring abortion clinics to obtain an annual license from the department of health and environment, hire surgeons as their medical directors and report patient deaths to the state within a day. The measure also mandated that kdhe set standards for equipment, medical screenings, ventilation and lighting.

But gov. Kathleen sebelius, an abortion rights supporter, vetoed the measure, saying medical professionals -- not legislators -- should set standards.

Manske had urged board members not to allow pressure from abortion opponents to "stampede" them into revoking rajanna's license.

"i don't think you've got to throw away a doctor here," he said. "he's a good man."

however, ostrowski said rajanna's clinic should have been shut down long before it was.

"what other branch of medicine could get away with any of this?" she said.

Http:// cjonline.Com/stories/061205/kan_abortiondo c.Shtml
|
steen

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Upper Midwest

Posted: 06-16-05 16:21pm

Still not a word about eating fetuses. Your lie is till unproven, fool.
|
trina1

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 528
Location: , Lost in Oz.

Posted: 06-16-05 16:23pm

steen wrote:
nice repost, trina. Where did it say anything about eating fetuses? Gee, could it be just another pl hyperbolic lie? Nah, really? Business as usual? Be still my heart, I can't take the surprise.


duh? I don't write the news....I just copy and paste what someone else writes. And besides....I never said he did eat a fetus...I merely kept an open mind that it could be true. If it was written about a pro-life Dr....I am sure your mind would have been just as open.
|
steen

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Upper Midwest

Posted: 06-16-05 16:27pm

trina1 wrote:
steen wrote:
nice repost, trina. Where did it say anything about eating fetuses? Gee, could it be just another pl hyperbolic lie? Nah, really? Business as usual? Be still my heart, I can't take the surprise.

duh? I don't write the news....I just copy and paste what someone else writes. And besides....I never said he did eat a fetus...I merely kept an open mind that it could be true.
yeah, right. And martians have landed. person pl liar, perpetuating pl lies right and left. incredibly' loser, not being able to make honest arguments.
Quote:
if it was written about a pro-life Dr....I am sure your mind would have been just as open.
of course. Unlike pl, I don't believe in guilt until it is actually proven.
|
trina1

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 528
Location: , Lost in Oz.

Posted: 06-16-05 16:27pm

steen wrote:
still not a word about eating fetuses. Your lie is till unproven, fool.



can you show me where I ever said it was true? I didn't post the story in the first place. So basically...You are lying about me lying. Guess that doesn't make me the fool...Now does it?!
|
steen

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Upper Midwest

Posted: 06-16-05 16:30pm

trina1 wrote:
steen wrote:
still not a word about eating fetuses. Your lie is till unproven, fool.

can you show me where I ever said it was true?
here are your comments. The first one was in response to the claim of him eating fetuses:
"just another one of the great abortionists this country has to offer. :twisted:"

the second comment was this:
"if it didn't really occur....Don't you think pc'ers near and far would be having a field day with the supposed lie? Don't you think lawsuits would be flying and that pc'ers would be using this to the hilt to prove what "liars" pro-lifers are? Use your head. The pc'ers aren't saying a word...Why? Most likely because it is true...And they know it is. "

take a look at your last line. Time for your sophistry again, trying to say that you didn't really say/mean what you said. What a dishonest scumbag liar you are.
|
trina1

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 528
Location: , Lost in Oz.

Posted: 06-16-05 16:37pm

steen wrote:
trina1 wrote:
steen wrote:
still not a word about eating fetuses. Your lie is till unproven, fool.

can you show me where I ever said it was true?
here are your comments. The first one was in response to the claim of him eating fetuses:
"just another one of the great abortionists this country has to offer. :twisted:"

did I say it was true? Did I write the story? I made a comment...So sue me.


The second comment was this:
"if it didn't really occur....Don't you think pc'ers near and far would be having a field day with the supposed lie? Don't you think lawsuits would be flying and that pc'ers would be using this to the hilt to prove what "liars" pro-lifers are? Use your head. The pc'ers aren't saying a word...Why? Most likely because it is true...And they know it is. "


just an opinion. Not a lie.

Take a look at your last line. Time for your sophistry again, trying to say that you didn't really say/mean what you said. What a dishonest scumbag liar you are.

I meant everything I said.
|
trina1

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005
Posts: 528
Location: , Lost in Oz.

Posted: 06-16-05 16:53pm

steen wrote:
nice repost, trina. Where did it say anything about eating fetuses? Gee, could it be just another pl hyperbolic lie? Nah, really? Business as usual? Be still my heart, I can't take the surprise.


lol...Hardly a repost...Since I didn't post it in the first place...And of course since it was from another source.
|
steen

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Posts: 1797
Location: Upper Midwest

Posted: 06-16-05 17:11pm

And still no evidence for the eating of fetuses. Yes, pl sure lie a lot.
|
Related Topics
This Forum This Category All Forums
Jump to:  
Goto page Previous  1, 2
New Topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.



Page 2 of 2
We comply with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health
information:
verify here.