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trina1

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Late Term Abortion Clinic In Trouble
Posted: 06-16-05 17:41pm

Wichita, ks (lifenews.Com) -- a late-term abortionist in kansas is being accused of violating the federal born alive infants protection act.

A document obtained by world magazine indicates that some babies at george tiller's wichita abortion facility are dying after abortions instead of during them.

The document, entitled, "your stay at women's healthcare services: step-by-step what to expect, intrauterine induction abortion," states that "live birth of the fetus" is among the possible complications. It states that responsibility for the medical care and transport of a live-born infant rests on the mother.

But the born alive infants protection act of 2000 requires that medical workers offer life-saving aid when a baby survives an abortion.

Joann armentrout, an administrator with the wichita facility, claims the abortion center is not violating the law. Armentrout was quoted in world magazine saying, "we've never had a live birth here."

however, armentrout failed to mention the case of sarah brown, a girl with severe disabilities who was adopted and lived for five years after surviving an abortion at the wichita facility in july of 1993.

Armentrout's statement also contradicts statements made by abortionist leroy carhart last year. Carhart told the associated press that during dilation-and-evacuation abortions, "the fetuses are alive at the time of delivery" at least once a month.
The wichita abortion center is not the only one suspected of violating the born alive infants protection act.

A 34-year-old woman said her child, known as baby rowan, curled up as if he were cold and grabbed her finger with his hand after she delivered him in a toilet at an abortion center in orlando. Shortly after, the baby died.

In deposition testimony, abortionist randall b. Whitney has said that born-alive abortions do take place at the florida facility and staff members make no effort to resuscitate the babies.

In the spring of 2004, a suit was filed against whitney, a second abortionist, and the orlando women's center, an abortion facility.
The suit alleged that a woman, known as "c.H." in court records, agreed to have a second-trimester abortion at the facility in 2001.

The staff said c.H. Had a bad attitude and ordered her to leave the facility. She later gave birth at the orlando regional medical center to a girl with cerebral palsy and other disabilities. Her attorney argues that, had c.H. Been permitted to stay at the abortion center, the baby would have been born alive there.

Meanwhile, a former abortion center employee told world she was trained to have patients abort into a toilet "so that if the baby happens to be alive, that it drowns."

in the wake of such allegations, the bush administration is planning to check nationwide compliance with the born alive infants protection act;

as national right to life's legislative director, douglas johnson, told lifenews.Com earlier this year, such action is badly needed "because there are those in our society who have convinced themselves that some newborn infants-particularly those born alive during abortions, or with handicaps-are not really legal persons."
a representative of the nation's catholic bishops, cathy cleaver ruse, agreed.

"roe v. Wade may currently leave our country helpless to defend infants moments before birth, but even now we can and must protect those struggling for their lives outside the womb."



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steen

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Posted: 06-16-05 17:43pm

Hmm, but not one word that tiller was eating fetuses either. Perhaps that story about ob/gyn eating fetuses was all a hate mongering lie, eh?
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-16-05 21:54pm

George tiller's clinic needs to be shut down!
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trina1

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Posted: 06-16-05 21:57pm

mom2trevor wrote:
george tiller's clinic needs to be shut down!


from your lips to gods ears.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 06-16-05 22:29pm

This is why I am a firm believer that an abortion should be done in a hospital with proper personnel equiptment and misc, if I see someone in doubt I ask the pt., and talk to the doc an the procedure is stopped, even before talking to the doc, because I make sure like most good nurses do that they are given their choice just like the way it should be. I also give them a good psychological going over before I ask the to sign the procedure o.K. Paper and so does the dr and the psychologist.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Moira

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Posted: 06-23-05 07:45am

Wnd and lifenews are not reliable sources. Please refrain from posting biased sources http://www.Wftv.Com /news/4431245/detail.Html do you have an unbiased source for this story?
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paganangel

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Posted: 06-23-05 16:35pm

There are other links for similar stories already posted on the board, moira.
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Kia

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Posted: 06-23-05 18:16pm

In my experience it has to be approved by 2 independant docs that for the situation to progress would be detrimental to either mother or child.

I definately think it should be "harder" to get and abortion though and that it should be regulated a lot more closely so that "cowboy surgeons" can't just set up clinic and call themselves doc!
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seksiHily

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Posted: 06-23-05 19:51pm

Im too lazy to read all of it, but it says that they are killing babies after birth?
At how many weeks?
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Kia

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Posted: 06-24-05 03:11am

jlee77 wrote:
it's basically saying that some fetuses end up being born alive during a failed abortion attempt. Under law they are required to resuscitate the fetus but this clinic isn't. Sickening isn't it?


and yet they (well not that clinic but the medical profession in general) didn't bother to even try to save my baby that was a very much wanted baby - go figure
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Fishx.

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Posted: 06-24-05 05:04am

They did the same with mine kia because he was just undef 500 gram and they need to be 500gram or over before the law alows them to intervine it is disgusting.
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