lil_blaze2004
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What Am I?
Posted: 06-17-05 16:55pm
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Ok so I don;t know what I am.
I believe if a woman wants to get an
abortion then go ahead but do not think
she should do it for anyone else and would
never get one myself.
I believe stem cell research is fine but
should be done with the aborted fetuses as
they should be put to good use.
I do not call my baby in my stomach my
fetus/zygote, I believe he is my
son/baby.
I think girls who don't use protection and
keep getting abortions are selfish.
I believe in abortion in
rape/incest/medical reasons.
So what does that make me?
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trina1
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-17-05 16:57pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | ok so I don;t know what I
am.
I believe if a woman wants to get an
abortion then go ahead but do not think
she should do it for anyone else and would
never get one myself.
I believe stem cell research is fine but
should be done with the aborted fetuses as
they should be put to good use.
I do not call my baby in my stomach my
fetus/zygote, I believe he is my son/baby
i think girls who don't use protection and
keep getting abortions are selfish.
I believe in abortion in
rape/incest/medical reasons.
So what does that make
me? |
that makes you.........You. :)
and by definition....It makes you
pro-choice.
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steen
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-17-05 18:22pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | ok so I don;t know what I
am.
I believe if a woman wants to get an
abortion then go ahead but do not think
she should do it for anyone else and would
never get one myself.
I believe stem cell research is fine but
should be done with the aborted fetuses as
they should be put to good use.
I do not call my baby in my stomach my
fetus/zygote, I believe he is my
son/baby.
I think girls who don't use protection and
keep getting abortions are selfish.
I believe in abortion in
rape/incest/medical reasons.
So what does that make
me? |
(btw, stemcells are not obtained from
aborted fetuses or embryos. The
stemcells are extracted at a much earlier
stage (about the 64-cell stage), long
before implantation would ever have
occured. That's why stemcell reserach is
not an issue along with abortion. These
cell clusters would never leave the
petridish or be implanted anyway.
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lil_blaze2004
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-17-05 18:28pm
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| steen
wrote: | that makes you pro-choice.
(btw, stemcells are not obtained from
aborted fetuses or embryos. The
stemcells are extracted at a much earlier
stage (about the 64-cell stage), long
before implantation would ever have
occured. That's why stemcell reserach
is not an issue along with abortion.
These cell clusters would never leave the
petridish or be implanted
anyway. |
oh see I thought stemcells were obtained
from made embryos and figured why not use
aborted ones for something good. So what
do they do with aborted fetus's do they
just burn them? I think they should be
used for reasearch.
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lil_blaze2004
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foreverblue
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 03:40am
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| pcforme
wrote: | | jlee77
wrote: | | some aborted fetus' are used
for vaccines. That's why a lot of
religious based families refuse to
vaccinate their
children. |
really? What religion is
this? |
| pcforme
wrote: | the catholic church for
one.
"the legislation, which is sponsored by
sen. Joseph m. Minard and sen.
Roman prezioso, both democrats, also adds
hepatitis b and chickenpox vaccines to the
list of mandatory shots. Wvve says the
chickenpox vaccine is manufactured with
human cell cultures obtained from
abortions and is objectionable to many
parents for religious reasons."
h
ttp://www.Worldnetdaily.Com/news/article.A
sp?Article_id=37258 |
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| pcforme
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: | | can any of you pro choicers
justify this? |
can you show a non anti choice web site as
a reference? World net daily isn't a
reputable source for
me. |
so is it or isn't it a reputable
source.?
This from the same site that said rajanna
was eating fetuses.Why is it good enough
to prove pro choice arguments but not pro
life [i still dont think he ate them]
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FISHX
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 08:04am
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | steen
wrote: | that makes you pro-choice.
(btw, stemcells are not obtained from
aborted fetuses or embryos. The
stemcells are extracted at a much earlier
stage (about the 64-cell stage), long
before implantation would ever have
occured. That's why stemcell reserach
is not an issue along with abortion.
These cell clusters would never leave the
petridish or be implanted
anyway. |
oh see I thought stemcells were obtained
from made embryos and figured why not use
aborted ones for something good. So
what do they do with aborted fetus's do
they just burn them? I think they
should be used for
reasearch. |
do you not think that terminated fetuses
have been violated enough?
Would you deny them even the most basic
human right of a burial?
And why should one baby die to save others
this is going to far not content with the
fact that the fetus has been killed but to
want to violate the fetuses body where
does it stop?
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trina1
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 10:47am
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| jlee77
wrote: | | pcforme
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | oh see I thought stemcells
were obtained from made embryos and
figured why not use aborted ones for
something good. So what do they do
with aborted fetus's do they just burn
them? I think they should be used for
reasearch. |
some aborted fetus' are used for vaccines.
That's why a lot of religious based
families refuse to vaccinate their
children. |
really? What religion is
this? |
many jehovah(sp) witnesses won't vaccinate
their children. Didn't know this was why
though. See...You live and you learn.
:lol:
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trina1
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 10:49am
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| foreverblue
wrote: | | pcforme
wrote: | | jlee77
wrote: | | some aborted fetus' are used
for vaccines. That's why a lot of
religious based families refuse to
vaccinate their
children. |
really? What religion is
this? |
| pcforme
wrote: | the catholic church for
one.
"the legislation, which is sponsored by
sen. Joseph m. Minard and sen.
Roman prezioso, both democrats, also
adds hepatitis b and chickenpox vaccines
to the list of mandatory shots. Wvve
says the chickenpox vaccine is
manufactured with human cell cultures
obtained from abortions and is
objectionable to many parents for
religious reasons."
h
ttp://www.Worldnetdaily.Com/news/article.A
sp?Article_id=37258 |
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| pcforme
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: | | can any of you pro choicers
justify this? |
can you show a non anti choice web site as
a reference? World net daily isn't a
reputable source for
me. |
so is it or isn't it a reputable
source.?
This from the same site that said rajanna
was eating fetuses.Why is it good enough
to prove pro choice arguments but not pro
life [i still dont think he ate
them] |
i certainly can't speak for all
catholics.....But myself....And the ones I
know....Vaccinate our children.
And since that same claim (dr. Eating
fetuses) was just brought out in a
mainstream media article.....I would say
yes....It is as reputable as any other
media source.Jmho
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trina1
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 10:53am
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| fishx
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | steen
wrote: | that makes you pro-choice.
(btw, stemcells are not obtained from
aborted fetuses or embryos. The
stemcells are extracted at a much earlier
stage (about the 64-cell stage), long
before implantation would ever have
occured. That's why stemcell
reserach is not an issue along with
abortion. These cell clusters would
never leave the petridish or be implanted
anyway. |
oh see I thought stemcells were obtained
from made embryos and figured why not use
aborted ones for something good. So
what do they do with aborted fetus's do
they just burn them? I think they
should be used for
reasearch. |
do you not think that terminated fetuses
have been violated enough?
Would you deny them even the most basic
human right of a burial?
And why should one baby die to save others
this is going to far not content with the
fact that the fetus has been killed but to
want to violate the fetuses body where
does it stop? |
it all boils down to lack of respect.
When there is no basic respect for human
life....Situations like you describe above
are the natural deterioration that
follows.
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lil_blaze2004
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 10:59am
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| fishx
wrote: |
do you not think that terminated fetuses
have been violated enough?
Would you deny them even the most basic
human right of a burial?
And why should one baby die to save others
this is going to far not content with the
fact that the fetus has been killed but to
want to violate the fetuses body where
does it stop? |
ya but since they are already being
removed and probably just "thrown away" I
think they should be used for something
good. I mean when someone has been
mur.Derd/killed in an accident and is an
organ donor, their good organs are still
given away to save lives so why can't the
aborted fetuses be used for good?
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FISHX
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 11:01am
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: |
do you not think that terminated fetuses
have been violated enough?
Would you deny them even the most basic
human right of a burial?
And why should one baby die to save others
this is going to far not content with the
fact that the fetus has been killed but to
want to violate the fetuses body where
does it stop? |
ya but since they are already being
removed and probably just "thrown away" I
think they should be used for something
good. I mean when someone has been
mur.Derd/killed in an accident and is an
organ donor, their good organs are still
given away to save lives so why can't the
aborted fetuses be used for
good? |
just one line explains thge difference .
They are organ donors the baby/fetus isn't
carrying a donor card.
To many children have been stolen by the
medical proffesion to allow this to
happen.
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FISHX
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Posted: 06-18-05 11:07am
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What do you mean not true I can prove this
if you wish.
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FISHX
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Posted: 06-18-05 11:09am
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No that the medical proffession are
stealing bodies of babies and children.
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msrosie
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 11:42am
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[quote="fishx"]
do you not think that terminated fetuses
have been violated enough?]
i don't think they have been violated at
all.
| Quote: | | would you deny
them even the most basic human right of a
burial? |
aborted fetuses are not buried - they are
incinerated with all the other medical
waste. Gosh, I never got to bury the
finger that had been off.....
| Quote: | | and why should
one baby die to save others this is going
to far not content with the fact that the
fetus has been killed but to want to
violate the fetuses body where does it
stop? |
the zef isn't dying to save others, it
would be aborted anyway. They are just
using the fetal tissue to help people.
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Re: What Am I?
Posted: 06-18-05 14:09pm
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| trina1
wrote: | | and since that same claim
(dr. Eating fetuses) was just brought
out in a mainstream media article.....I
would say yes....It is as reputable as any
other media
source.Jmho |
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foreverablue
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Posted: 06-23-05 07:09am
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Why did you delete my posts,is it because
I was telling the truth you are trying to
close this board down so they go to your
shyte lying forum,and you have just proved
that you are not pro life,freaking scumbag
liar.
It makes no difference whether you delete
all my posts I will just repost them.Now
isn't it funny you also deleted the post
where you admited that you were biased.All
you have posted to me or fish have been
accusations and insults.
Are you really that stupid to think that
you can stop me posting on here liar,you
are the one who adds nothing to this site
just pm people to join your forum and if
you think lewis won't notice then you
really are stupid.
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Moira
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Posted: 06-23-05 07:52am
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| Quote: | | i think girls who
don't use protection and keep getting
abortions are
selfish |
this is a myth. Few women have repeated
abortions - if a woman was aborting as
contraception she'd have approx. 30
abortions in her lifetime.
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foreverablue
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Posted: 06-23-05 11:25am
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| moira
wrote: | | Quote: | | i think girls who
don't use protection and keep getting
abortions are
selfish |
this is a myth. Few women have repeated
abortions - if a woman was aborting as
contraception she'd have approx. 30
abortions in her
lifetime. |
i do not call women names for having
terminations,that is up to them I have a
problem with some of the reasons women
abort,not the act itself.
Like lifestyle,yes you have a choice,a
lifestyle or a life.This sort of thing I
cannot understand,should you lot in
america join forces to get women the help
they require.Politically this is never
going to be resolved but people can make
them go easier on women such as having
contraceptives given freely.America has
one of the highest taxes in the world[that
I think we can agree on at least]yet what
do you get back?In england we have the nhs
where no one needs to pay because that is
what our taxes are used for,no one is
disadvantaged for not having the money for
whatever treatment they might need,even
terminations are done on the nhs,though
this might be changing due to the abortion
tourists coming over here from places like
ireland.That is another argument,because
it appears that our goverment have changed
the rules for these people.In europe if
you commit an offence that is against the
law in your country,you can be in any
country in europe you are still libel for
prosecution back in your country,yet not
if you are from another country it only
applies to the english,not even the
british.
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