Why do you insist on pulling pro life for
the things pro choice are doing?
If one person in pro life lies you call
all of pro life liars,yet when pro choice
lie it is a mistake.
You are avoiding questions that you know
will you cannot answer without making
yourself look like a hypocrite.
You stood by and let pro choice accuse me
and fish of having sex with our
daughter,yet scream and shout when some
one says anything to pro choice.
Pro choice lies and you do not say
anything at all,yet you have a near
coronary when you percieve pro life lying.
Pro life use a web site and you set up a
poll to try and prove pro life lied,yet
when pro choice use's the same website,you
are conspicious by your absence.
You have more compassion for a child
raping k.I.Ller than anyone pro life,that
is just sick.
You keep accussing people of stuff,which
are lies but when pulled on it you say *i
mixed you up with so and so*,yet there is
no chance of you accepting that off pro
life.
You lie constantly and accuse pro life of
posting personal stuff on the net,yet did
you say anything to pcforme when she
posted a fake swingers ad on this board
and claimed it was fish and me?. No you
didn't.
Now you can dissect/ignore/insult me all
you want but it will not make a blind bit
of difference to what is the truth.
Now I have removed anything that can be
considered an insult now I wonder if I
will get a civil reply.
Steen it appears I have to keep posting
this because they keep locking it,so I am
not doing it to be funny
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FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 06-22-05 15:53pm
Isn't he just ?
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Moira
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 302 Location: somewhere where it rains a lot
Posted: 06-23-05 07:56am
Quote:
you have more
compassion for a child raping k.I.Ller
than anyone pro life,that is just sick.
that's absolutely untrue. He has respect
for prolifers who are truly prolife rather
than just pro-fetus - prolifers that
actually care about women as well. He
just can't stand the anti-women control
freaks you see on debating boards.
I've also met few people as willing to
help strangers as he is. I've seen him
give a lot of excellent advice and support
on message boards, even to people he
doesn't like. He's more pro-people and
indeed prolife than many self-proclaimed
prolifers i've met.
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sarahk
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Location: England
Posted: 06-23-05 10:10am
Moira,
ive never looked at it like that before
and your absolutely right! There are some
pro-life people and some pro-foetus, there
is a difference. I found this board by
posting in the support forum, I had some
helpful comments and advice from pro-life
people, but others write some very hurtful
and harmfull comments to women who have
had abortions. Thats what I have never
understood, if pro-life people claim they
are 'pro-life' how can they speak to
others like that and try to put down and
emotionally torment women, it just doesnt
make sense, how is that promoting life?!
Ive been called all sorts by pro-life
people, homicide e r, doing it shank etc
all from people on this board! There are
some women hating people out there, some
campaigners dont take into consideration
that there are two lives to consider and
if a woman has no choice but to have an
abortion, they still find the anger and
bitterness to condem her and make sure she
feels completely messed up by her choices.
I refer to these people as the
pro-life-clan, the nazi's of the abortion
argument!
I do believe that 'true' pro-life people
have a very good argument and after
actually going through it myself I can say
with strength that I would never do it
again, no matter what the circomstances.
But other pro-life people dont really put
their case accross very well, they fight
with evil, they attack women and
emotionally abuse them in an attempt to
make them see their way. Hardly
inteligent! I'd much rather hear a side
from someone who is controlled, states the
facts and promotes life for what it is...A
wonderful experience!
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Fishx.
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 17
Posted: 06-23-05 10:21am
Yes just like pcers do as well I don't
deny that some pro lifers judge the person
but some of us judge the act instead.
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paganangel
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jun 2005 Posts: 377 Location: VA
Posted: 06-23-05 11:56am
Pro-life does not = anti-woman or whatever
else you feel necessary to call us. We
respect all life.
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Fishx.
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 17
Posted: 06-23-05 12:41pm
[quote="jlee77"]
Quote:
but fishx...How can you judge the act but
not the person that commited the
**act**??
it is not the woman but the act if the
option wasn't there then there would be no
problem and then if the women still find
away to terminated we have no need to
judge the women as the judicial system
will.
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oopoopoop
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 1205 Location: ,
Thanks: 34
Thanked:2
Posted: 06-24-05 11:55am
jlee77
wrote:
people will down pro-life
advocates because they see us as
"anti-woman". We as pro-life know that
is ridiculous but pro-choice people stand
on their strong ground. It's impossible
to make them see any sort of
point.
it is all a matter of what you believe it
means to be "pro-woman", I guess. For
instance, we look at fundamentalist muslim
cultures, where women have to be
completely veiled. That may strike us as
being very discriminatory, tkaing away
their freedom, treating women as
second-class citizens, etc. But the
muslims would maintain it is because they
"value" women so much, and women who have
converted to islam say they feel more free
when they are veiled.
For someone who is pro-choice, forcing a
woman to stay pregnant and bear a child
when she does not want to, is basically
taking away her autonomy, forcing her to
be a second-class citizen, saying that she
is not permitted to control what happens
to her body. Obviously, if you think that
anti-abortion is not anti-woman, then you
believe that forcing her to stay pregnant
and bear her child is somehow in her best
interests.
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sarahk
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Location: England
Posted: 06-27-05 06:04am
Jlee - I have to say I agree with most of
what you said there. Pro-choicers find it
hard sometimes to undersatand pro-life and
vice versa. We do need to respect each
others beliefs but as abortion is such a
sensitive subgect it can get nasty on both
sides. Just for the record I wasnt
calling you and anyone else on here a
nazi! I was refering to the people who
attack women. Those sites that tell women
they are evil and should be mordered or
torured themselves for what they have done
(ive seen some horrible things which is
what makes me feel so strongly) my friend
was also forced to od in college because
of people like this.
I have been attacked by pro-life people,
ive been told that god will not forgive me
for the evil I have committed and I will
burn in hell!!!! How that is pro-creative
I will never know!
I realise the errors of my ways, I wish I
had the strength to stand up to the people
who coerced me into my abortion at the
time. I have sinse made it known how I
feel and my relationship with these people
will never be the same again. I will
never have an abortion again and I would
like to encourage others to not be forced
into abortion. However I still believe
its the right decision for some women.
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foreverablue
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 17
Re: Steen Posted: 06-27-05 16:06pm
foreverblue
wrote:
why do you insist on pulling
pro life for the things pro choice are
doing?
If one person in pro life lies you call
all of pro life liars,yet when pro choice
lie it is a mistake.
You are avoiding questions that you know
will you cannot answer without making
yourself look like a hypocrite.
You stood by and let pro choice accuse me
and fish of having sex with our
daughter,yet scream and shout when some
one says anything to pro choice.
Pro choice lies and you do not say
anything at all,yet you have a near
coronary when you percieve pro life lying.
Pro life use a web site and you set up a
poll to try and prove pro life lied,yet
when pro choice use's the same website,you
are conspicious by your absence.
You have more compassion for a child
raping k.I.Ller than anyone pro life,that
is just sick.
You keep accussing people of stuff,which
are lies but when pulled on it you say *i
mixed you up with so and so*,yet there is
no chance of you accepting that off pro
life.
You lie constantly and accuse pro life of
posting personal stuff on the net,yet did
you say anything to pcforme when she
posted a fake swingers ad on this board
and claimed it was fish and me?. No you
didn't.
Now you can dissect/ignore/insult me all
you want but it will not make a blind bit
of difference to what is the truth.
Now I have removed anything that can be
considered an insult now I wonder if I
will get a civil reply.
Steen it appears I have to keep posting
this because they keep locking it,so I am
not doing it to be
funny
steen you said you would answer this on
saturday,yet it is now monday and no sign.
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