Sympathetic Calf Pain After An Acl Reconstruction? Posted: 06-23-05 10:00am
In the spring of 1993, I suffered a torn
acl with additional damage to my meniscus
during a collegiate lacrosse game.
After the swelling had gone down in about
a month, I had arthroscopic surgery to
replace the acl with a portion of my
patellar tendon from the same knee, as
well as to remove some of the torn
portions of the meniscus.
I went to physical therapy religiously in
order to regain full use of my knee as
soon as possible as I wanted to play
lacrosse again. After several months of
rehab, it became apparent that something
was not right about my knee. Even after
all the work that myself and the physical
therapy team had done, I was still unable
to fully extend my knee without
experiencing extreme pain and swelling
along the joint line.
The athletic trainers at the physical
therapy department with which I had
contact all felt that the rehab had
progressed as far as it could go from
their standpoint. I had completed my
therapy with a minimum of atrophying of
the surrounding muscles, and had done a
lot of plyometric training in order to
strengthen the complimentary muscles
around the injury. My knee was strong,
and stable, but I did not have full
extension and that made it difficult to
run with a normal gait.
The college’s physical therapy team sent
me to an orthopedic surgeon at the nearby
hospital affiliated with the university.
Since I had gotten the surgery done by a
doctor at home during the summer, this
doctor had the opportunity to take a fresh
look at the situation.
My new doctor ordered an additional mri
and, upon looking at it, came to two
conclusions:
1. There was a portion of my meniscus
that had been torn during the initial
trauma, but had been missed during the
surgery. This fragment was keeping my
knee from being able to fully extend
because it was lodged within the joint
itself.
2. The graft from my patellar tendon
appeared to have been implanted at the
wrong angle.
The new doctor recommended an additional
arthroscopy to correct both of these
problems. I consulted with my physical
therapists, who also agreed that this was
the best option. My parents agreed, so I
decided to have the surgery.
The second surgery was much worse than the
first. I was not sufficiently prepared
for what would take place. Upon waking
up, I was horrified to discover that the
surgeon had taken part of the hamstring
from my good leg to replace the acl in my
bad one. Now I had two legs bandaged up.
Further, during the surgery, I
apparently suffered some muscle spasms
which resulted in the tearing of my
quadriceps on the acl-reconstructed knee.
As if the acl reconstruction itself
weren’t painful enough, I also had the
quad problem to contend with.
Once I was lucid enough to actually have a
dialogue, I spoke with my surgeon. He
said that the damage was far more
extensive than he’d at first predicted
and this was the reason for the additional
graft harvesting on my good knee. He
assured me that he’d received permission
from my parents while I was anesthetized
to go forward with that part of the
operation, which they later confirmed.
The rehab from this second acl
reconstruction went far more slowly. As
with the first, I worked very hard with my
therapists to rebuild the strength in my
knee because I wanted to play ball again.
At the end, my knee still did not extend
as far as it did previously, but it did do
so without pain. There was simply too
much scar tissue in and around the joint
to allow it to do this. I eventually
discovered that my left knee (the good
one) actually hyperextends a bit. Thus,
by comparison, the damaged knee looked
that much more like it could not extend
fully.
Happily, I did make a full recovery from
the surgery and went on to play my last
two seasons of lacrosse (without a brace)
alongside my teammates, which was where
i’d wanted to be all along.
That was over 10 years ago.
Now, i’m 30 years old, out of shape,
overweight and my knee is a constant
source of pain and annoyance. It’s
very sensitive to changes in barometric
pressure as well as sudden temperature
changes. It aches all the time, but the
pain is exacerbated during atmospheric
changes as i’ve stated.
I’m not sure if the weight thing is a
chicken or the egg situation. Did I
start putting on weight when my knee began
hurting to the point where simple exercise
became annoying, or does my knee hurt
solely because of the additional strain it
bears? Both explanations seem
reasonable.
That’s not technically, what i’m
asking about, though. I included all the
additional (probably superfluous)
information in case there is something
specific that might explain the real
source of annoyance, my calf.
When my reconstructed knee aches, I get
excruciating sympathetic pain and cramping
in my calf. The source of the pain is
so deep within my calf that it’s nearly
impossible to massage. My wife’s hands
get tired long before her hands can reach
the source of the pain. I would almost
say it feels like tendonitis in my calf,
but I can’t figure out what that has to
do with my knee hurting.
I saw a doctor when the pain started
becoming a real problem (keeping me up at
night, etc) and he basically told me that
I needed to lose weight. I informed him
that the cramping started before I had to
start limiting my activity and thus put on
weight. In fact, it was one of the major
reasons I had to stop mountain biking and
rollerblading because my calf would cramp
up so badly when I tried either activity.
He recommended some stretching exercises,
but the pain originates so deep within my
calf muscle that none of them felt as
though they were “getting at” the area
that was in pain. After I told him this,
he became very dismissive, and I got the
impression that he believed I was some
kind of painkiller junkie trying to scam
drugs off of him. This infuriated me,
and I did not return to him for additional
consultation.
That was a year ago, and my calf is
hurting more and more. I’m trying to
swim and do some other activities that
don’t impact the calf, but the kicking
action from swimming makes my knee hurt,
and thus the calf does as well. It’s
getting very frustrating.
Is this a common problem? Is there
something i’m overlooking? Is there
something I should specifically tell a
doctor to look at when describing the
problem?
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Youngatheart
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 6
Posted: 09-09-05 20:42pm
I can't offer any advice or help. My
problem is different, but I hope someone
with information will reply to your
questions. Your summary is very well
written, and informative. I often wonder
if doctors ever take the time to review
this forum. It would be nice if someone
with the knowledge and experience could
offer a little hope. Good luck.
Youngatheart
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cartilage_less
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Detroit
I Can Relate..... Posted: 09-10-05 17:56pm
To most,if not all of the things you have
written here.I used to weight 505 lbs,had
gastric bypass,now im down to 240 lbs.My
knees are still an issue,every friggen day
of my life,and now im sick of it.I have
posted on here about total knee
replacement,and thats where im at.So oct
10th is when im gettin'r dun.Am I scared?
Hell yes!! But if I wait any longer,my
hips are gone,ankles gone...Then what?
Not to mention the pain every moment of
every day.Im sick of it!! Two total knees
cannot amount to the pain I have right now
with the knees I have.We all come from
different walks of life and we choose the
paths we are on,right now.Im at the end of
my rope(right now)with my knees.If things
stay the same course(in your life)as they
are today...You will be feeling the exact
same way as I am right now.
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ginger957
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Wetumpka, AL
Calf Pain Posted: 08-22-06 13:23pm
I have had 3 acl replacements at this
time. The frist 2 failed for reason such
as the doc messed it up. I have now had
the 3 acl and I am also experiencing calf
pain and cramps. I don't remember it
being so serve after the frist 2
surgeries. I told the doctor about it
but they became offensive and told me the
calf pain was coming from my back. I do
have degenerative disk disease but take
medicine already for the leg problems.
The cramping in the calf of the leg is
different and deeper. I have not
experience this pain before and it is only
in the leg with the acl replacements.
How do you make you doctors believe you.
I feel they think I am lying.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 08-22-06 14:48pm
Hi there! Your stories sound pretty much
familiar, they think we are druggies until
they have an accident then they understand
what pain is and also at 1st, no, it's in
your head will at 1st mine was carpal
tunnel then neck, after the carpal tunnel
surgeries, both left and right and two
neck fusions, then back to leg and then I
fell leaving me with reflex sympathetic
dystrophy also known as complex regional
pain syndrome and I also have degenerative
disk disease and digenerative joint
disease and ms, optical neuritis I
seriosly doubt that I will have another
surgery because of the scar tissue and
arthritis unless it is a pain pump because
their is just too many problems later. I
lost weight due to stress and I have also
heard that a gastric by-pass comes with a
lot of problems but I want to wish you the
best of luck with yours as their are some
that do have good luck. I know that I
keep trying but keep falling because I am
not ready for my electric wheel chair yet
but I do use a cain and a electric
sit-down scooter when hubby and I and our
dogs go out.
All the best to all of you!