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leithris

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Posted: 12-29-05 19:15pm

jvarta wrote:
considering that you've never tried the product, it makes me question if you are working for one of drnatura's competitors? Why else would you spend so much time and effort to ruin the credibility of an incredible product? It makes no sense at all. <

i am not a competitor nor do I work for a pharmaceutical company. I have complex health problems and a kitchen cabinet full of herbal remedies that did no good. I am cautious and skeptical. If you think that I am badmouthing the company, why not ask me more about my opinions or make suggestions? Why just attack me for my beliefs?

>if I don’t like the sound of a product, I simply will not try it and move on to something else. I would never join forums to badmouth a product that I know nothing about. How stupid would it be to spend my time on such mindless activities. <

i am interested in the product and am investigating it to see if it might work for me. On the one hand I see countless glowing testimonials, and on another I see reports of the product not working for a number of people. In addition, when I contacted drnatura, they did not answer my questions fully, and did not reply at all when I told them what I had heard about others' experiences. Any company worth their salt needs to be held accountable, especially when people's health is at stake.

>most of us are all happy and delighted with the results of the colonix program in this forum. If we have a concern, we can share it in a civilized manner. You are the only bad seed. Why are you trying to burst our bubble? Don't you have something better to do? Why don’t you become a spokesperson for a drug company? You are using the very same tactics. <

attacking someone for their personal opinions and assertions is civilized?
I would never insult someone personally on a forum, nor judge them for what they do with their time. I am sorry you feel you live in a bubble, because public scrutiny and debate is a healthy way to form one's own opinions and beliefs. I'm glad that this product works for you. I am not just going to order something blindly without evaluating it first. I've spent too much money on other remedies that proved worthless.

>everything you write about is completely unfounded. I personally don’t believe a word you say. I have dealt with drnatura’s customer service many times and they were extremely responsive every time.<

that doesn't negate the fact that I have had lousy customer service. You can believe what you want. When you start taking it out on people for not agreeing with you, not only is that bad netiquette, it makes you look like you're the drug pusher.

>if the gallbladder story was true, don’t you think the person would have returned the product for a refund instead of trying to sell it on e-bay?<

she bought the product on ebay to begin with. She contacted drnatura but they wouldn't refund it because she didn't buy it from them to begin with. The post is on dallas tx craigslist.

>in the meantime, why don’t you go to a different forum to harass people there. I think that everyone has had enough of you here. <

wow, that's really scary, attempting to speak for everyone in a forum, especially to harrass a member you personally have a problem with.

>i hope you’re getting good money for these pathetic derogatory posts.<

i hope the product continues to work for you. I hope you aren't addicted to it. And I hope you learn tolerance, and how to state your views without insult. No cleanse can accomplish that.
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michelejosephine

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Location: Clifton Park, NY, USA
Colonix
Posted: 01-02-06 13:52pm

Hi everyone!
I'm new here and I was wondering about going on colonix. I have a few questions for anyone who has tried it.

#1. Did you talk to your doctor before doing this? What did he/she say?
#2. Do you have to take this for 3 months or longer? I didn't quite understand the time frame.
#3. Do you feel like you have to go right now, like a laxative? I wanna do this, but scared if i'm at work with a client or customer to say "hold on one sec".
#4. What are all these other supplements on the Dr. Natura website? Do I have to take them too?

Thanks for all your help!

Michele :d
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tlp1

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Posted: 01-02-06 21:25pm

leithris wrote:
troll? You must be kidding, or looking in the mirror. I came here to find out information on this product. In a short time i've heard some horror stories about drnatura. I even contacted them myself, to no avail. What i've heard just doesn't match up with their overly glowing website.





If you want to worship drnatura blindly, go ahead. I wanted to believe in them, wanted to feel safe in trying this product, and being able to recommend it to friends, family, and clients, but they give me absolutely no reason to. Is this group only about unquestioned adherence to the colonix product?


you make me laugh! Have a happy new year troll
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hilarebel

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Posted: 01-03-06 02:50am

I have had trouble for a long time with chronic constipation. I tried a number of alternatives to laxatives: stool softeners (up to 6 per day) metamucil, mineral oil... Anything I could think of. I hate laxatives and avoid taking them, even when it means struggling to "go" only once per week, dreading using the bathroom for days, struggling to go, etc, etc.

Um, the reason I don't want to take laxatives all the time is because they are very uncomfortable and can be highly addictive. Chronic use of laxatives have many damaging health effects, research bulemia. Laxatives can atrophy your bowel so that its impossible for you to go without the assistance of the drug.

I am in awe of the colonix program. I feel like a normal person again because I go every morning, it takes 5 minutes (as opposed to an hour of struggling) and I don't have to be thinking about it all the time. ("is it going to hurt, is it going to bleed, will I be able to go, how long will it take, etc, etc.) that is addicting!!!

I admit that everything has side effects. I am schooled on the side effects of laxatives and don't believe that anything is harder on your bowels than a harsh laxative. People shouldn't be discouraged from trying this program because it didn't work for some people, or it could be addictive if you abuse it. Of course it doesn't work for some people, and of course it can be addictive when used improperly. Name any other drug that doesn't meet those criteria?

For me, colonix is a godsend. I don't think its right to slam on a product that you haven't even tried. And I especially don't think its okay for you to try and rob someone else of the experience because of your own hangups. When you try it and hate it, then come back and share your experience.
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leithris

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Posted: 01-03-06 19:43pm

You make me laugh! Have a happy new year troll[/quote]


how intelligent. Sorry you were threatened by my post. One would have hoped for a mature response. But then, bullies aren't mature. Sorry I made the mistake of thinking you were!
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HealthyChoice

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Questions
Posted: 01-05-06 05:52am

This forum has been very helpful, and everyone's input very insightful. I would like to know...


1. Has anyone has lost a good amount of weight while using this product?


2. Is there a store that I can go to, rather than using the internet or phone, to purchase the product?


3. Has anyone experienced similar results with the use of a different product?

Also, I foud this site created by a doctor who uses colonix:
http://www.Gifam.Org/npcleansi ng.Htm?Ovchn=ggl&ovcpn=gifamgoogle& ;ovcrn=colon+cleansing+products&ovtac= ppc

thank you very much.


Regards,

a possible consumer
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JVarta

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Posted: 01-07-06 07:03am

#1. Did you talk to your doctor before doing this? What did he/she say?

Unless you are dealing with a holistic doctor, your doctor will not be supportive of natural therapies. He'll want you taking drugs, for which he receives a commission from the drug companies, and he'll want you sick all the time so you visit often. Doctors are not trained in nutrition or natural medicine. Their education is backed by the drug companies. A few years back, there was a doctors' strike in israel and the number of fatalities dropped dramatically. What does that tell you?

#2. Do you have to take this for 3 months or longer? I didn't quite understand the time frame.

If you've never cleansed before, they recommend a 2-3 month cleanse. Your body will let you know when it's time to stop. I would just go for the full three months.

#3. Do you feel like you have to go right now, like a laxative? I wanna do this, but scared if i'm at work with a client or customer to say "hold on one sec".

Not at all. Start on a weekend and then you'll be able to know when you will need to go to the bathroom. For me, it was first thing in the morning, then again after I drank the fiber and one more time after dinner. I was fine during the day.

#4. What are all these other supplements on the Dr. Natura website? Do I have to take them too?

I don't think you have to take them at the same time as the colonix although it is a good idea to take some probiotics. They are all really good products though.
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colonixnewuser88

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Question On Kleritea
Posted: 01-08-06 20:52pm

Hi,

just started on this program. On day 3 now and dun see anything interesting coming out and I feel a little constipated as well. I usually can go daily but not much though.

At nite time, I drink the kleritea but I felt my heart beat faster after driniking the tea. I can feel my palpiltation. Should I continue w/ the tea?
What should I do? Should I get a refund or continue for another week and see how it does again? I'm a little concerned about what those ingredients are and possible side effects..

Thanks.
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alotapoo

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Colonix (unbiased Opinion?)
Posted: 01-08-06 23:39pm

I dont want to bash anyone here, and like most on this forum, I am looking for unbiased opinions on colonix. Just an observation, but jvarta, colional, and tip1 all sound really defensive over colonix. Stock holders, ceos (jvarta : marta - sounds very similar! ), or maybe just good friends of Dr. Natura. If you are having heart palpatations or anything similar as result of taking anything, stop and talk to a doctor!!!! Serious stuff! So far colonix doesn't sound too bad and I agree that with any drug or dietary supplement somebody will have bad side-effects. I have seen alot of believable and positive reviews on this forum so I think my wife and I may try it. If we do and this forum isn't dead by then, i'll let you know how it went. I wish you good fortune selling your product jvarta.
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JVarta

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Posted: 01-09-06 08:46am

Alotapoo,

obviously you've never found anything that you truly feel passionate about. It is truly remarkable when a product changes your life. Perhaps you didn't suffer as much as I have or others in this forum who have been helped by the colonix. But for many of us, it truly has been a life saver. I hope it will be for you as well.

Instead of jumping into a forum as a new member and accusing people of selling/endorsing a particluar product, why don't you try the product to see how it works for you. I thought this was a forum about sharing our experiences and questions about a wonderful product. When did it become a forum about people who never tried the product bashing the rest of us.

I'm more than glad to share my experiences with others and helping new comers but i'm really getting fed up with these people who never even tried the colonix jumping in to give their two cent's worth.

Colonixnewuser88, it takes a while for you to see results. Just think of how many years it took to become so polluted and toxic inside. I would try steeping the tea for only a minute or so to see what happens. When your body is getting rid of toxins, sometimes you can experience some discomfort. Of course, if you are really not feeling well, you should stop the product, even if it's just for a few days. Are you taking any medications?
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colonixnewuser88

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Posted: 01-09-06 13:38pm

Yes, I am taking thyroxine pills as I have part of my thyroid gland removed a year ago due to a hyperactive thyroid. I did steep in
only a minute or 2 and I still get the palpitation feeling. There might be something in the tea that I am allergic to. I have reaction to caffeine type of drinks but they said it contains no caffeine.

Thanks.
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JVarta

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Posted: 01-09-06 14:20pm

Why don't you try it without the tea and see how you make out? If your body is handling the other two products well, you should still get a good detox with them.
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SameSituation

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Objective Forum
Posted: 01-13-06 13:32pm

As a health care professional, I appreciate and would expect some level of skepticism when it comes to making a decision to ingest any non-fda approved "remedy," herbal or otherwise. Glowing testimonials of unknown veracity on a website are only just that. There are always two sides to every story and this is your health being discussed here, not your lawn mower or your carpet. Exercising caution, discussing the signs and symptoms of your particular health care concern as well as potential treatment with an actual health care professional, diligently researching alternatives, and scrutinizing information in forums such as these is not only the intelligent thing to do, it is critical in ensuring that you avoid inadvertently undertaking potentially life or health-threatening treatment programs. I, too, am a skeptic because I know from my training and experience that there are a lot of dangerous concoctions being sold via the internet that purportedly treat a variety of ailments. I know how willing people are to try anything to get the results they want, even if that means ignoring information that may not support their chosen direction. Knowing that the distributor/manufacturer of colonix chose not to answer some very important questions or to direct the caller to someone higher up in the organization to answer these questions is a danger sign, plain and simple. I'm not saying that this product isn't safe or isn't helpful, however, I also wondered from the very beginning of this string if jvarta was a financial stakeholder in this program. Mr./ms. Varta, unless you are a physician, I would suggest that you stick to providing personal testimonial and avoid being prescriptive. Your attack on someone who does not share your "passion" for this product who was simply voicing some concerns, was unnecessary and unhelpful. I appreciate your opinion, as I do the others here...Which is why I am on this post. A cautionary note to other posters...Do not follow the advice of some stranger on a website. If you are unsure as to a course of action that relates to your health, consult your physician. Unless jvarta is standing in your doctor's office with a stethoscope around his/her neck writing you a prescription, you should ignore any directions on how, when, or if you use this product.
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JVarta

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Posted: 01-13-06 19:09pm

Great to have another happy newcomer who knows nothing about this product. How interesting! Trust the fda, trust the doctors, trust conventional medicine only, etc. I wonder if those who have such blind faith in the medical establishment are aware of the statistics below? (and for the record, I am not a shareholder, partner or in any way involved with drnatura, other than being a satisfied customer.
If anyone would like my opinion or advice, you can email me directly. Otherwise, I will no longer waste my time in this forum.)

death by medicine

by gary null, phd; carolyn dean md, nd; martin feldman, md; debora rasio, md; and dorothy smith, phd

something is wrong when regulatory agencies pretend that vitamins are dangerous, yet ignore published statistics showing that government-sanctioned medicine is the real hazard.

Until now, life extension could cite only isolated statistics to make its case about the dangers of conventional medicine. No one had ever analyzed and combined all of the published literature dealing with injuries and deaths caused by government-protected medicine. That has now changed.

A group of researchers meticulously reviewed the statistical evidence and their findings are absolutely shocking.4 these researchers have authored a paper titled “death by medicine” that presents compelling evidence that today’s system frequently causes more harm than good.

This fully referenced report shows the number of people having in-hospital, adverse reactions to prescribed drugs to be 2.2 million per year. The number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections is 20 million per year. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million per year. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million per year.


The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the american medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the us. (by contrast, the number of deaths attributable to heart disease in 2001 was 699,697, while the number of deaths attributable to cancer was 553,251.5)

we placed this article on our website to memorialize the failure of the american medical system. By exposing these gruesome statistics in painstaking detail, we provide a basis for competent and compassionate medical professionals to recognize the inadequacies of today’s system and at least attempt to institute meaningful reforms.


You can read the rest of the article using this link: ht tp://www.Lef.Org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_ awsi_death_01.Htm

shocking isn't it? If you still think conventional medicine will hold all the answers you're looking for, you pretty much deserve what you get. I will stick with my herbs and vitamins - thank you.
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SameSituation

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Posted: 01-13-06 22:31pm

You are incredibly and illogically defensive and you know nothing about me or what I know about health care statistics, alternative medicine, or this particular product. You are building a case entirely on assumptions. My whole point, not that you get it, is that anyone who is willing to put something into their bodies without doing substantial research and asking good questions in a variety of forums is a fool. Anyone who would take medical advice from a stranger on-line is a fool.

Colonix may be the best thing for individuals with digestive issues in the world, but thank goodness there are smart people asking some questions to assure themselves that this product is not only effective, but safe. If you don't get the answers you need, don't buy it. If you have confidence in the manufacturing process and the contents, that's great, go for it.

Keep asking the questions. If you trust what you hear enough to try it, I hope you get the results you are looking for. Everyone gets to make their own decisions based on their own set of criteria. No need to be threatening, annoyed, or hostile because some people need a little more convincing or a little more substantiated evidence. I live in a world of clinical, pharmaceutical, and biotech bench research, so I know whereof I speak. And, I am an absolute proponent of alternative medicine.
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actanonverbas

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Hijacked Accout
Posted: 01-17-06 09:24am

This was not an authorized post and was a hijacked account


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brad_religion

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Location: Pennsylvania
Hi, I'm New Here
Posted: 01-18-06 10:41am

jvarta wrote:
great to have another happy newcomer who knows nothing about this product. How interesting! Trust the fda, trust the doctors, trust conventional medicine only, etc. I wonder if those who have such blind faith in the medical establishment are aware of the statistics below? (and for the record, I am not a shareholder, partner or in any way involved with drnatura, other than being a satisfied customer.
If anyone would like my opinion or advice, you can email me directly. Otherwise, I will no longer waste my time in this forum.)

death by medicine

by gary null, phd; carolyn dean md, nd; martin feldman, md; debora rasio, md; and dorothy smith, phd

something is wrong when regulatory agencies pretend that vitamins are dangerous, yet ignore published statistics showing that government-sanctioned medicine is the real hazard.

Until now, life extension could cite only isolated statistics to make its case about the dangers of conventional medicine. No one had ever analyzed and combined all of the published literature dealing with injuries and deaths caused by government-protected medicine. That has now changed.

A group of researchers meticulously reviewed the statistical evidence and their findings are absolutely shocking.4 these researchers have authored a paper titled “death by medicine” that presents compelling evidence that today’s system frequently causes more harm than good.

This fully referenced report shows the number of people having in-hospital, adverse reactions to prescribed drugs to be 2.2 million per year. The number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections is 20 million per year. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million per year. The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million per year.




The most stunning statistic, however, is that the total number of deaths caused by conventional medicine is an astounding 783,936 per year. It is now evident that the american medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the us. (by contrast, the number of deaths attributable to heart disease in 2001 was 699,697, while the number of deaths attributable to cancer was 553,251.5)

we placed this article on our website to memorialize the failure of the american medical system. By exposing these gruesome statistics in painstaking detail, we provide a basis for competent and compassionate medical professionals to recognize the inadequacies of today’s system and at least attempt to institute meaningful reforms.




You can read the rest of the article using this link: ht tp://www.Lef.Org/magazine/mag2004/mar2004_ awsi_death_01.Htm

shocking isn't it? If you still think conventional medicine will hold all the answers you're looking for, you pretty much deserve what you get. I will stick with my herbs and vitamins - thank you.


hi jvarta, I sympathize with your view, because I also do not adhere to "conventional medicine". There are plenty of studies available to see regarding the major ailments of human beings (cancer, heart disease, digestive problems, etc). This "health care professional" on the forum cannot be blamed for defending drugs and using hyperbole such as "non-fda". That is because they are so indoctrinated with "drugs are good, natural is bad" mentality. What is amazing is they tell you that if you trust the word of a stranger on the internet, you are a "fool", yet they have no problem saying you should trust a "health care professional" who gives out drug prescriptions like candy which have far worse side effects and do way more damage to the human body than any "natural" alternative. The fda doesn't know a thing about health, in fact, their "nutritional pyramid" recently changed because the lawyers who run it were shown to be frauds who didn't do any scientific research in the first place. It all had to do with which lobby paid the most money.

I have read one horror story regarding the gestapo of the fda. A christian man named jason vale who had terminal cancer saw a video about apricot seeds and began to take them as was recommended. His tumor started shrinking and he didn't die. He wanted to help others who were looking for anything that could offer some realistic hope to them, because chemotherapy is probably the last thing a person wants to take for cancer. He began a company selling and giving information about apricot seeds and how his cancer went away.

The fda saw what he was doing and they tried to shut down the company for their alma mater "these statements have not been evaluated by the food and drug administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease or illness. The material presented is for educational purposes only and the reader is advised to obtain the services of a competent physician if the need for medical treatment is indicated. "

they said he could not legally sell a product and give the information about the "cure" he received from the product, so he decided the legal way to do it was to create 2 different companies and have 1 sell only the product with no information and have the other company give information about the product. That way people could still find out the information for themselves.

This was still no good, and they brought him to court. The judge never looked at his medical report to prove his cancer disappeared, the judge was pretty much in the fda's corner. He sentenced jason to 5 years in prison for trying to help others. I thought this was america? Anyway, there is a christian defense fund set up for him, so it is the real deal. I myself don't take apricot seeds for cancer prevention, but I do take amygdalina, which is vitamin b17. It is what you find in the seeds of fruit. And yes, it is cyanide! But, don't let that scare you. Cyanide is just like any other element. If you were exposed to pure sodium, you would die, but when you mix chloride to it, bam, you have salt. Cyanide is only non-lethal to the human body in 1 form (so I read), which is hydrogen-cyanide, found in fruit seeds.

As a christian, I know god would not command us to eat something that would kill us. Yet, god told adam and eve to eat the fruit and seeds in genesis 1:29. So, why don't people eat seeds? Well, the bible also says the fear of man brings a snare. It is because of the fear of man, that people avoid eating fruit seeds (such as apples). Because they hear the "horror stories" about people who died from eating them. What a crock. So, the cure for cancer is as close as your gideon bible in the hotel you may be staying at.


As far as colonix, I definitely am interested in trying the 2 month supply. I already take a lot of vitamins and I feel better, but I think I could feel much better if I cleaned out my colon. I may switch to a mediterranean diet or at least a non-american diet lol.

I will keep you guys posted on my progress. Plus, if you have any questions about simple cures for ailments, please feel free to ask. Don't buy that rip-off book "natural cures they don't want you to know about" from kevin trudeau. My mom bought 2 copies and I scanned through the book and it basically was information you could find for free on the internet and I already knew the things he said. He is just a con man trying to make a buck off the desperation of sick people.

Freely we receive, freely we give is what I say.


God bless you all
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leithris

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Posted: 01-19-06 16:27pm

>my point, not that you get it

lol! Samesituation, you rock. :-) a fundie is a fundie, whether it's religion or medicine or pooping. I've definitely been read the riot act from raw foodies but never from colonic fundamentalists. Until now.

Maybe we should form a different forum for intelligent contemplation of the colonix cleanse.
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Healthmatters

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Hello
Posted: 01-19-06 17:05pm

Hi everyone. Interestingly I was online yesterday, looking for senna tea, and I actually found the pure senna leaf tea at a health food store in georgia! It was only $2.79 for 30 tea bags. A huge difference from the price of buying the tea seperately from the colonix cleanse. So if you need some, you might want to do a search for it. I'm not on the cleanse right now, but I love tea once a week. And actually, the tea is a little different from the colonix, seems to be more pure. Be blessed!
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droot

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Day 21
Posted: 01-22-06 13:36pm

Hi
i'm at day 21 of the colonix cleanse. I bought a one month supply off of ebay. So far i've become regular and gas and bloating have disappeared, even after eating things like broccoli. Also my skin has cleared up a bit. Those are the good things so far. I don't use the tea. Even when steeped for just a minute or two, it gave me an odd feeling (anxious, mind spinning) and kept me awake at night. I had more trouble falling asleep than if I didn't drink it. I've seen nothing unusual in my toilet bowl and haven't experienced any of the other "pleasant side" effects touted on the website like increased energy, sleeping like a baby, lusturous hair, weightloss or lowered cravings. I feel all those claims are too good to be true, anyway, but just wanted to report that nothing like that is happening to me. I'm going to continue cleansing for another month, but not with pricey colonix. Instead i'm getting psyllium at trader joe's for $5.99 and the parasite stuff from gnc.
Good luck to everyone!
Oh, and senna should not be taken for more than 10 days in a row. It's addictive.
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