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Plz Help Seizers Come Back After 10 Years

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mike15

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Plz Help Seizers Come Back After 10 Years Posted: 07-02-05 23:25pm


I use to have tons of seizers as an enfant 2-5. I had about 30 between that time. And I have yet to have another seizer until today. I was smoking weed with friends when all of a sudden I blacked out and when I came through my friends were all like man ,man u ok. They told me that I was shakin all over and my eyed were rollin back in my head. I was also very sweaty and a little confused and scared. They said it lasted like 10 seconds. I know I was high but I seriously blacked out. I wasnt trippin out. Im pretty sure I had a seizer. Well my question is, is it because of the weed? Like I drink too but I wasnt at the time. Could that of led to it?. Im juss really confused and I dunno wut to do. Plz help.

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Posted: 07-05-05 22:19pm


It could be from the weed. Sounds like it is time to get checked out by your gp and have a neuro run some tests....

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Posted: 07-22-05 05:05am


Hi i'v got to say i'v never heard of weed causing you to have a fit.I'v had them before because of drink(not worth it) but I quit smoking weed when I found out. Your problem is,if you tell your doctor that you was smoking weed when it happened then they might just fob you off.Im no expert but I dont think getting stoned can cause a fit. Good luck :)

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Posted: 10-31-05 02:00am


Hi, weed definately helps me. I have one joint in the evening round 7, just before supper. This seems to calm me down till sufficiently so I can go to bed, sleep like a log. Since the day I started smoking i've been grand-mal free. About 5 years now. But I have to say that I don't believe it works so well for everyone. The problem is that you never know how strong it is. It would seem (than in my case) the anti-convulsant properties of weed can be counter productive when I have too much. If I smoke a really strong joint I usually just have one drag. More than that and I seem to have trouble controlling the shakes in my hands. Naturally this makes me nervous so I tend to never overdo it. Hendrik.

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Forgot to Mention. Posted: 12-04-05 06:10am


I once sew a guy keel over after having a joint at a friends house party. We chatted after he came to, he had no history of epilepsy. He simply passed out and woke up a minute later feeling groggy. He was not a regular smoker and he had a mix of purple haze and bazooka, really strong stuff. Not for the faint-hearted. :-) smoking weed on an empty stomach or in conjunction with taking alcohol is usually a bad idea. You either get the "greens" feeling like you ate something really off, or you want to sleep for 20 hours. As for weed on its own, in my case it works better than all the medications i've tried in 27 years. It was suggested to me by a canadian neurologist, as a last resort before cracking my skull open and seperating my hemispheres. For some epileptics smoking pot works really well, but for some it doens't work at all. Do a google search "epilepsy cannabis" see what you get... As for discussing weed with your neurologist; it all depends on where you live, in canada and certain us states your neurologist will be open and honest and perhaps even prescribe cannabis. Most other countries you're stuck with manufactured (legal?) drugs.

mike15

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Posted: 07-21-06 19:52pm


Sorry about taking so long to come back to this thread and read the responses, but I moved and didnt have access to the internet (and eventually when I did I forgot about this thread) well anyways heres an update, so far ive had 3 seizures, or passing outs(whatever it was) but the most recent was like 2 days ago. The night before I smoked like 5 bongs had a great time , that night I didnt get much sleep, in the morning at like 10 a freind asks if I wanna come smoke some weed so I wake my friend (he slept over) and we head over. I only have 1 and a half bongs, I was normal till about 10-15 min after. I wasn't that high but I was getting really dizzy, and one of my freinds who has seen me seizure out before said man are you ok, and im like man I feel like im gonna pass out, I awoke on the floor with my freinds calling my name, I dont think it should be called passing out because I heard them talkin but I couldnt understand at first, then I soon started hearing them calling my name and awoke 2 lie down for a bit. Oh yea and the time it happend before this I smoked like 8 bings with a big bowl, and I finished one of my freinds chambers, and I felt dizzy and fell head first onto his bathroom floor, I awoke with everybody freaking out, a head rush and I couldnt see for about 5-10 min, and I was really freaking out because I didnt know what happend. After this I assumed it was from smoking too much, but know I know it isnt from that. I smoke weed offten if I have some, im not really a heavy smoker ill just have about 2-3 bongs just to hang out, but the bowl is small (homemade) and I dont usually pack it. So does anybody have any idea what is happening, should I quit smokin? Or what? Ps. I like smokin marijuana but I like living better. Please respond within the week before im back with no internet access.

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I Wouldn't Be Too Alarmed Posted: 07-31-06 03:06am


I've found it to be not uncommon among heavy smokers. I can only give you my hypothesis based on my own little subjective study of this phenomenon. The same thing you described happened to me for the first time about a year ago. I'm pretty sure it's not related to the fact that the smoke itself is depriving the brain of o2 because I don't smoke my weed, I vaporize it. The first time it occurred - not coincidentally - happened around the same time I realized there were much greater benefits to holding the vapor in my lungs than there was for smoke. From my own experience as well as a number of reputable studies that were done, it's been shown that there is very little - if any - benefit to holding your breath for more than a couple of seconds after taking a hit of smoke. I had been assuming the same was true of the vaporizor, but I didn't find the same diminishing returns from holding the hit in my lungs for a longer period of time. It almost always would happen when I went from leaning back (for more than 15 minutes or so) in my chair after vaporizing a good bit of the sticky icky. It would usually happen immediately after several large hits and/or while I was holding a large hit in my lungs. I often would be on an empty stomach and I can always feel it coming on for about 3-6 seconds before it occurs. I would be aware I was about to black out so i'd try to brace myself, then I would immediately come-to on the floor with whatever I tried to grab on the way down on the floor with me. It would take a few second for everything to become coherent and then i'd be fine (often with a few scrapes and bruises). I started doing it on purpose in a controlled environment to see if I could figure out how to control it when I felt it coming on. The answer is: yes. If you can find a place to sit or lie down, the feeling will almost always pass. If it has to be the floor, so be it. If you're standing up, no matter how strong your will, when this happens you are going to end up on the floor no matter what you grab. My wife saw this whole process take place and basically, it looked like I was having a seizure while standing up (trying to keep my blalance). But I lost motor control eventually and just buckled, then jumped right back up as if everything was okay (as I tried to make sense of what happened). So my hypothesis is this: obviously the blackout happens because the brain is being deprived of oxygen when I stand quickly from a reclining position while holding my breath (or perhaps out of breath to some extent). The contribution of the marijuana is not so much in that the smoke is depriving you of needed o2, but the process of smoking itself is. The headrushes would be normal for many people with low or borderline low blood-pressure but I think they're clearly compounded by the reaction of thc or some other cannaboid with your brain. Obviously I have no clue what that may be. What I learned from my ill conceived autoexperimentation is that under the right circumstances I (and maybe you) can induce a very brief seizure like state that could best be described as 5 seconds of what it would be like to simultaneously inhale ketamine and nitrous oxide. More imporantly, I learned that these headrushes - while enjoyable on a boring day - are also very avoidable.