To those of you that have them can you
please let me know what exactly is
happening during one and how long they
last. I think I have more of a daily
anxiety rather panic attack episodes but I
am not sure.
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asdfjkl
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 11 Jul 2005 Posts: 41 Location: British Columbia
Posted: 07-11-05 21:20pm
Hi mary.
I think ive had a panic attack, if im
correct it lasted about 30 seconds.. I
was lying in bed arguing with the
girlfriend and all the lights were off. I
started breathing really fast. I had to
stand up. I started trying to control my
breathing and grabbed a drink of water..
That was about the end of it.
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Lennon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Canada
Posted: 07-11-05 23:46pm
Panic attacks are the feeling of total
panic for seemingly no reason and they
usually last an hour. If you aren't sure
if you've had one, then you probably
haven't. It isn't something that you'd be
doubtful of.
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Jurples, no offense but don't go telling
people that changing their diet will
overcome panic or anxiety. That's one
small part of the disorder. Changing your
diet helps but that doesn't stop anything
from happening. I had my first panic
attack 23 years ago and can now eat
anything I want since i've learned to
control anxiety. Everyone has panic and
excessive adrenaline. If someone chases
you with a knife, you have excess
adrenaline. How you react to the panic
and excess adrenaline is the disorder.
Learning to overcome that is the cure.
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Posted: 07-12-05 01:28am
You reflect the way most people understand
how anxiety attacks occur, but of course
they would not be aware of the
biochemistry of anxiety attacks.
Perhaps you should have a look at it
before you dismiss it.
Jurriaan plesman ba(psych) post grad dip
clin nutr
see more articles at free web site at:
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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Lennon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Canada
Posted: 07-12-05 11:21am
I reflect that way because I went through
anxiety and didn't study it from afar.
The problem with saying that it is due to
hypoglycemia is that when you have anxiety
for decades, you've gone through millions
of tests with doctors and I imagine maybe
just one would have clued into
hypoglycemia but none did. You're told
your fine and it's just anxiety. That's
because it is just anxiety. It's not as
easy as just saying someone is
hypoglycemic. I've tried hundreds of
diets over 23 years and nothing stopped
anxiety. Worrying about what you eat can
become another part of your disorder.
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jesticle
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 153 Location: Australia
Posted: 07-12-05 11:55am
The feelings of a panic attack are nothing
more than an exageration of normal bodily
reactions to stress or being frightened it
is very rare for panic attacks to harm
you, they just feel unpleasant. A panic
attack can last anywhere between 15
seconds to 2 hours you find it hard to
breathe and little breathes lead to more
panicking which of course leads to more
worrying, you feel stuck, suffocated, and
very frightened
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Posted: 07-13-05 23:31pm
Hello lennon,
<the problem with saying that it is due
to hypoglycemia is that when you have
anxiety for decades, you've gone through
millions of tests with doctors and I
imagine maybe just one would have clued
into hypoglycemia but none did. You're
told your fine and it's just anxiety.
That's because it is just anxiety. It's
not as easy as just saying someone is
hypoglycemic. I've tried hundreds of
diets over 23 years and nothing stopped
anxiety. Worrying about what you eat can
become another part of your disorder.
>
your story has been reported over and over
again by members of our association who
went through the same experience as you
with thousands of medical tests and
doctors unable to diagnose why they have
anxiety attacks.
Doctors do not generally recognize
'hypoglycemia' because it cannot be
treated by drugs and hence drug companies,
that control medical ‘research’, are
not interested in investigating it.
Medical research is money driven and there
is considerable political opposition to
non-drug medicine.
This is the reason why we have founded the
‘hypoglycemic health association of
australia” a voluntary and charitable
organisation, to educate the public and
medical profession about the causes of
anxiety attacks and mental illnesses,
preferably without recourse to drugs. We
are also supported by many friendly
doctors with similar interests.
We now have many medical practitioners
that practise ‘natural medicine’
whenever possible in australia.
If you study the biochemsitry of anxiety
attacks you will find it is much easier to
treat than you imagine. It is not a
‘mind over matter’ approach. It is a
matter of understanding your own
biochemistry.
Jurples....I think what you should do is
develop an anxiety disorder and after you
realize that changing your diet doesn't do
anything, you can tell your esteemed
colleagues that it doesn't work. The
subjects that you may have experimented
with very well could have used a mind over
matter with your diet. It doesn't last
forever because they don't know how to get
past the moment of it coming back with the
diet. Do you ever post anything without
a link to your site? I'm in complete
control over my anxiety and i've had
everything anxiety can throw at you. I
can now eat anything I want........How
does that fit into the hypoglycemic
theory?
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Posted: 07-14-05 03:21am
<what you should do is develop an
anxiety disorder and after you realize
that changing your diet doesn't do
anything,>
actually I did suffer from anxiety attacks
before therapy and dietary changes did
help me overcome these attacks.
I am happy for you that you have solved
your problem. I am more interested in
people who wonder how to get over anxiety
attacks.
It is just a different approach from the
conventional model of treatment we have
seen so far and it is based on science,
not theory.
It is not everybody's cup of tea and it
requires a lot of study.
Our web site is just an educational web
site, it is completely free of charge.
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Lennon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jun 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Canada
Posted: 07-14-05 11:36am
Except for your membership fees.
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Hypochondriac1028
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Mar 2005 Posts: 312 Location: Ohio
Posted: 07-14-05 13:32pm
Roflroflrfol free my ass
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Crystal1111
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 102 Location: Florida
Attention - Jurples Ad Campaign Posted: 07-14-05 14:58pm
Wow jurples,
i hope your clever advertising scheme
benefits you. You may make a pretty
penny with the countless times you have
displayed your website. Good luck with
that. I think it's proven that business
large or small can prey on those most
vulnerable, hence advertising on a health
forum. As for the people that know
better, anxiety is not a dietary issue for
many that suffer, including me. I live
with my anxiety and have it at arms
length. It doesn't control my life
anymore. There is so much literature out
there. It takes work educating oneself
and picking out the various things that
suit one best.
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jlb23
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Brisbane
Pannick Attacks Posted: 07-14-05 23:07pm
Hi all,im new to this forum,its been a
good read.I have been having pannick
attacks for about 16 years now,with a few
breaks in between,ive had to work hard
mentally to get on with my life and
overcome fear,i have battled phobias
related to pannick attacks as well,i never
left the house for 3 years.I believe that
is is all in the thought process,i mean,if
we had never had pannick attacks we would
never have to worry about them.I have been
across the tasman 7 times and lived in the
high country of new zealand for 5 years,i
have left my husband and bought the 3 kids
back to australia on my own,to live with a
birth mother that I had never met until
the day I got off the plane,i travelled
all around canberra on buses,all these
things that I thought I was never gonna do
again,i do believe that certain foods
produce more anxiety and I believe that
smoking ciggarettes does not help the
cause much either,although I have only
managed to give up once for 9 months.What
I am trying to say is that,through your
own thoughts you can change and live
happier lives,just think,if someone could
wipe your memory of the first time you
ever had a pannick attack....Would you be
the person you are today...But you will
never forget...Just a matter of working
out that it doesnt have to control you.If
you think about it,when you have a good
day you might still feel a little
depressed but you get on with it you might
have a few good days in a row and you feel
happy,but the next day you have a full
blown pannick attack for no reason...That
starts your thoughts flowing
again...Doesnt it...Why how why me what
the hell is wrong with me ,im not
normal,im going nuts...No your not,nothing
is normal,you are you and you and your
thoughts are the only ones gonna stop it.
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Posted: 07-15-05 02:06am
Hi crystall,
i find your remarks pretty offensive.
Just because you don't like what you hear
and you are so engrossed with your own
preconceived ideas, you do not need to
resort to the old debating trick of ad
hominem: "if you don't like the message,
attack the messenger."
our web site is the result of people
getting together and starting a charitable
association with the specific objectives
of educating the public and the helping
professions (patients, doctors, therapists
etc) to look at alternatives to either
drug therapy or psychotherapy, for those
people who have not benefited from
traditional therapy. It would be an
offence under australian law for a
registered charitable non-profit
organisation to make profits out of
information offered free of charge. If
you have any evidence that one single
person had to pay a fee to freely access
our web site, say so.
The web site is specifically aimed at
people who have not benefited from main
stream therapy limited to
drug/psychotherapy. It offers an
eduational program that can be discussed
with the readers’ therapists
i am a retired nutritional psychologist
with years of experience in my field
offering my experiences to help some
people here and to pass on scientific
knowledge gained from practice to the next
generation. Being a pensioner with my own
separate independent income I have no need
to 'make money'.
There is no need to be rude to posters at
this web site.
Having put my defenses aside, I researched
your website. I admire the work you have
done. Perhaps american culture has jaded
me. I am used to sneaky sales tactics,
and being taken advantage of. Please
forgive my assumptions that you fit that
category. As you probably well know,
anxiety is often coupled with paranoia and
at times anger. Navigating your website,
I commend all the research and work you
have done. Your biography and kind face
adds a human quality to your posts. I
apologize for treating you like a
faceless, nameless advertising robot.
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jurplesman
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 139 Location: Sydney Australia
Posted: 07-15-05 21:03pm
Hi crystal,
i appreciate your apology and I hope we
can now make this discussion board a
source of hope for many people.
Hi I have had panic attacks for many years
been on pills and therapy.
Panic attacks affect ppl in different ways
I have a friends who also has panic
attacks.I have agrophobia and social
phobia she has agrophobia.She can go out
shopping and can have an attack and needs
to go home whereas I dont tend to go out
unless accompanied b y someone and some
days cannot go out at all.I also have
depression which doesnt help thankfully
though I dont suffer too badly from
depression just bouts.Im currently seeking
advise and someoelse to relate to who also
has theses attacks would be helpful to
talk them through with someone if theres
any one out there willing?
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OaTmEaLfAiRy
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 192 Location: Iowa
Uhm. Posted: 11-03-05 01:09am
I'm not sure if this is a panic attack.
Everyone keeps telling me it's just
homesickness (but it's not just being away
from home that triggers it). I'm also
like phobic about throwing up or nausea
(it doesn't even have to be my own, it
could be someone like in the same room or
a nearby room).
My heart starts beating really fast and I
start crying uncontrollably. It's harder
to breathe. Generally, if it has to to
with puke, it doesn't happen unless I see
or hear someone puking. But if I have to
stay away from home for more than one
night (or only one night if it's sort of
far away) then I do this too. That's why
people think it's just homesickness. I
know a lady who has/had an anxiety
disorder, and she said she was exactly the
same way at my age, for the exact same
reasons.
Being on zoloft helped (seeing as it could
be a symptom of depression, which I have),
but now I feel like the zoloft is wearing
off, so the anxiety is coming back. I
couldn't stay at my aunt's house last
night (15 minutes away, in a different
town) because I started panicking.