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mary70

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Panic Attacks
Posted: 07-11-05 20:43pm

To those of you that have them can you please let me know what exactly is happening during one and how long they last. I think I have more of a daily anxiety rather panic attack episodes but I am not sure.
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asdfjkl

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Posted: 07-11-05 21:20pm

Hi mary.

I think ive had a panic attack, if im correct it lasted about 30 seconds.. I was lying in bed arguing with the girlfriend and all the lights were off. I started breathing really fast. I had to stand up. I started trying to control my breathing and grabbed a drink of water.. That was about the end of it.
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Lennon

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Posted: 07-11-05 23:46pm

Panic attacks are the feeling of total panic for seemingly no reason and they usually last an hour. If you aren't sure if you've had one, then you probably haven't. It isn't something that you'd be doubtful of.
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-12-05 00:16am

Please read:

"beating anxiety and panic attacks" at

www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au

jurriaan plesman, ba (psych) post grad dip clin nutr
for more articles see
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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Lennon

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Posted: 07-12-05 00:24am

Jurples, no offense but don't go telling people that changing their diet will overcome panic or anxiety. That's one small part of the disorder. Changing your diet helps but that doesn't stop anything from happening. I had my first panic attack 23 years ago and can now eat anything I want since i've learned to control anxiety. Everyone has panic and excessive adrenaline. If someone chases you with a knife, you have excess adrenaline. How you react to the panic and excess adrenaline is the disorder. Learning to overcome that is the cure.
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-12-05 01:28am

You reflect the way most people understand how anxiety attacks occur, but of course they would not be aware of the biochemistry of anxiety attacks.

Perhaps you should have a look at it before you dismiss it.

Jurriaan plesman ba(psych) post grad dip clin nutr
see more articles at free web site at:
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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Lennon

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Posted: 07-12-05 11:21am

I reflect that way because I went through anxiety and didn't study it from afar. The problem with saying that it is due to hypoglycemia is that when you have anxiety for decades, you've gone through millions of tests with doctors and I imagine maybe just one would have clued into hypoglycemia but none did. You're told your fine and it's just anxiety. That's because it is just anxiety. It's not as easy as just saying someone is hypoglycemic. I've tried hundreds of diets over 23 years and nothing stopped anxiety. Worrying about what you eat can become another part of your disorder.
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jesticle

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Posted: 07-12-05 11:55am

The feelings of a panic attack are nothing more than an exageration of normal bodily reactions to stress or being frightened it is very rare for panic attacks to harm you, they just feel unpleasant. A panic attack can last anywhere between 15 seconds to 2 hours you find it hard to breathe and little breathes lead to more panicking which of course leads to more worrying, you feel stuck, suffocated, and very frightened
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-13-05 23:31pm

Hello lennon,

<the problem with saying that it is due to hypoglycemia is that when you have anxiety for decades, you've gone through millions of tests with doctors and I imagine maybe just one would have clued into hypoglycemia but none did. You're told your fine and it's just anxiety. That's because it is just anxiety. It's not as easy as just saying someone is hypoglycemic. I've tried hundreds of diets over 23 years and nothing stopped anxiety. Worrying about what you eat can become another part of your disorder. >

your story has been reported over and over again by members of our association who went through the same experience as you with thousands of medical tests and doctors unable to diagnose why they have anxiety attacks.

Doctors do not generally recognize 'hypoglycemia' because it cannot be treated by drugs and hence drug companies, that control medical ‘research’, are not interested in investigating it. Medical research is money driven and there is considerable political opposition to non-drug medicine.

This is the reason why we have founded the ‘hypoglycemic health association of australia” a voluntary and charitable organisation, to educate the public and medical profession about the causes of anxiety attacks and mental illnesses, preferably without recourse to drugs. We are also supported by many friendly doctors with similar interests.

We now have many medical practitioners that practise ‘natural medicine’ whenever possible in australia.

If you study the biochemsitry of anxiety attacks you will find it is much easier to treat than you imagine. It is not a ‘mind over matter’ approach. It is a matter of understanding your own biochemistry.

Jurriaan plesman, ba (psych) post grad dip clin nutr
for more articles see
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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Lennon

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Posted: 07-14-05 01:50am

Jurples....I think what you should do is develop an anxiety disorder and after you realize that changing your diet doesn't do anything, you can tell your esteemed colleagues that it doesn't work. The subjects that you may have experimented with very well could have used a mind over matter with your diet. It doesn't last forever because they don't know how to get past the moment of it coming back with the diet. Do you ever post anything without a link to your site? I'm in complete control over my anxiety and i've had everything anxiety can throw at you. I can now eat anything I want........How does that fit into the hypoglycemic theory?
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-14-05 03:21am

<what you should do is develop an anxiety disorder and after you realize that changing your diet doesn't do anything,>

actually I did suffer from anxiety attacks before therapy and dietary changes did help me overcome these attacks.

I am happy for you that you have solved your problem. I am more interested in people who wonder how to get over anxiety attacks.

It is just a different approach from the conventional model of treatment we have seen so far and it is based on science, not theory.

It is not everybody's cup of tea and it requires a lot of study.


Our web site is just an educational web site, it is completely free of charge.


Jurriaan plesman, ba (psych) post grad dip clin nutr
for more articles see
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au


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Lennon

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Posted: 07-14-05 11:36am

Except for your membership fees.
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Hypochondriac1028

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Posted: 07-14-05 13:32pm

Roflroflrfol free my ass
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Crystal1111

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Attention - Jurples Ad Campaign
Posted: 07-14-05 14:58pm

Wow jurples,

i hope your clever advertising scheme benefits you. You may make a pretty penny with the countless times you have displayed your website. Good luck with that. I think it's proven that business large or small can prey on those most vulnerable, hence advertising on a health forum. As for the people that know better, anxiety is not a dietary issue for many that suffer, including me. I live with my anxiety and have it at arms length. It doesn't control my life anymore. There is so much literature out there. It takes work educating oneself and picking out the various things that suit one best.
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jlb23

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Pannick Attacks
Posted: 07-14-05 23:07pm

Hi all,im new to this forum,its been a good read.I have been having pannick attacks for about 16 years now,with a few breaks in between,ive had to work hard mentally to get on with my life and overcome fear,i have battled phobias related to pannick attacks as well,i never left the house for 3 years.I believe that is is all in the thought process,i mean,if we had never had pannick attacks we would never have to worry about them.I have been across the tasman 7 times and lived in the high country of new zealand for 5 years,i have left my husband and bought the 3 kids back to australia on my own,to live with a birth mother that I had never met until the day I got off the plane,i travelled all around canberra on buses,all these things that I thought I was never gonna do again,i do believe that certain foods produce more anxiety and I believe that smoking ciggarettes does not help the cause much either,although I have only managed to give up once for 9 months.What I am trying to say is that,through your own thoughts you can change and live happier lives,just think,if someone could wipe your memory of the first time you ever had a pannick attack....Would you be the person you are today...But you will never forget...Just a matter of working out that it doesnt have to control you.If you think about it,when you have a good day you might still feel a little depressed but you get on with it you might have a few good days in a row and you feel happy,but the next day you have a full blown pannick attack for no reason...That starts your thoughts flowing again...Doesnt it...Why how why me what the hell is wrong with me ,im not normal,im going nuts...No your not,nothing is normal,you are you and you and your thoughts are the only ones gonna stop it.
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-15-05 02:06am

Hi crystall,

i find your remarks pretty offensive. Just because you don't like what you hear and you are so engrossed with your own preconceived ideas, you do not need to resort to the old debating trick of ad hominem: "if you don't like the message, attack the messenger."

our web site is the result of people getting together and starting a charitable association with the specific objectives of educating the public and the helping professions (patients, doctors, therapists etc) to look at alternatives to either drug therapy or psychotherapy, for those people who have not benefited from traditional therapy. It would be an offence under australian law for a registered charitable non-profit organisation to make profits out of information offered free of charge. If you have any evidence that one single person had to pay a fee to freely access our web site, say so.

The web site is specifically aimed at people who have not benefited from main stream therapy limited to drug/psychotherapy. It offers an eduational program that can be discussed with the readers’ therapists

i am a retired nutritional psychologist with years of experience in my field offering my experiences to help some people here and to pass on scientific knowledge gained from practice to the next generation. Being a pensioner with my own separate independent income I have no need to 'make money'.

There is no need to be rude to posters at this web site.

Jurriaan plesman, ba (psych) post grad dip clin nutr
for more articles see
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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Crystal1111

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Mr. Plesman
Posted: 07-15-05 08:14am

Having put my defenses aside, I researched your website. I admire the work you have done. Perhaps american culture has jaded me. I am used to sneaky sales tactics, and being taken advantage of. Please forgive my assumptions that you fit that category. As you probably well know, anxiety is often coupled with paranoia and at times anger. Navigating your website, I commend all the research and work you have done. Your biography and kind face adds a human quality to your posts. I apologize for treating you like a faceless, nameless advertising robot.
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jurplesman

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Posted: 07-15-05 21:03pm

Hi crystal,

i appreciate your apology and I hope we can now make this discussion board a source of hope for many people.

Cheers jur

jurriaan plesman, ba (psych) post grad dip clin nutr
for more articles see
http://www.Hypoglycemia.Asn.Au
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icybabe

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Panic Attacks
Posted: 10-31-05 04:54am

Hi I have had panic attacks for many years been on pills and therapy.
Panic attacks affect ppl in different ways I have a friends who also has panic attacks.I have agrophobia and social phobia she has agrophobia.She can go out shopping and can have an attack and needs to go home whereas I dont tend to go out unless accompanied b y someone and some days cannot go out at all.I also have depression which doesnt help thankfully though I dont suffer too badly from depression just bouts.Im currently seeking advise and someoelse to relate to who also has theses attacks would be helpful to talk them through with someone if theres any one out there willing?
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OaTmEaLfAiRy

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Uhm.
Posted: 11-03-05 01:09am

I'm not sure if this is a panic attack. Everyone keeps telling me it's just homesickness (but it's not just being away from home that triggers it). I'm also like phobic about throwing up or nausea (it doesn't even have to be my own, it could be someone like in the same room or a nearby room).

My heart starts beating really fast and I start crying uncontrollably. It's harder to breathe. Generally, if it has to to with puke, it doesn't happen unless I see or hear someone puking. But if I have to stay away from home for more than one night (or only one night if it's sort of far away) then I do this too. That's why people think it's just homesickness. I know a lady who has/had an anxiety disorder, and she said she was exactly the same way at my age, for the exact same reasons.

Being on zoloft helped (seeing as it could be a symptom of depression, which I have), but now I feel like the zoloft is wearing off, so the anxiety is coming back. I couldn't stay at my aunt's house last night (15 minutes away, in a different town) because I started panicking.
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