Well I know that I should try and forget
it...Is it normal for it to take a few
weeks in order to do that??
Is the positive thinking everything or
does your body just get used to it, and
you stop minding it, hence it goes
away??
It has to leave me now like last times, im
sorry to say im losing my will to live..Im
just so destructive right know...I cry a
lot but I try to maintain the same calm
and use the same techniques as I have the
other times.
How long have you been bothered bblair???
How is you symptoms??
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Bblair
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Bellerose, NY
Grungeprincess Posted: 07-28-06 10:38am
It really really takes some time. Im
new to this but have been bothered since
the beginning of summer but I have greatly
reduced it at times. Key word at times
I still battle with it but I never give up
and u shouldnt either. What we are
dealing with sucks but its not something
that we cant stop and its not a disease or
something wrong with ur body.
Im sorry if uve said this before but are
you seeing a therapist? Someone to
talk to? If not I really suggest you
do. My anxieties really sky rocketed
since my friends death and then a few
months ago I had an attack which started
this wierd breathing problem. Jsut
talking to a therapist helps because u can
stand back and take a looka t urself and
see what is really bothering u.
To answer ur question yes it is norml for
it to take up to any time it does. But
u dont have to make it take a long time.
When u feel this sensation of
breathlessness u need to stand back anbd
calm down and realise this isnt a physical
thing as much as a mental, there is
nothign wrong with ur body. U arent
sick. Then u need to try to do things
to forget this sensation.
U should take a look at ur life and assess
what is causing ur anxiety, sometimes its
hard to see, but only u can find out.
And then u need to take care of these
things, instead of keeping them bottled up
and such.
I say it again and again but read about
buddhist meditation and try meditation
urself. It has worked wonders for me.
Ive had days where I was feeling
horrible then I went to meditation and
felt so much better that I could cry just
from the pure joy of it.
Youre fine, you jsut need to relax.
This takes time dont be discouraged if u
have ups and downs. We all will have
them. The ups and downs mean ur on ur
road, just stay calm and find ways to help
urself along the way.
"every human being is the author of his
own health or disease."
-buddha
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 07-28-06 11:25am
Hi bblair and other readers...Thank you
for being there for me.
My mood swings are sky rocketing right
know...Its like a rollercoaster. I
recognise this from before...I just hoped
I would never feel it again like I had in
the past...Its so awful...Im feeling
suicidal...
My very first episode (when I didnt know
anything about this and couldnt be sure
how to handle anything, it went away in 3
to 4 weeks. It took about 2 weeks in
order for me to forget it at times.)
im also worried cause I have alcoholic
tendencies...I have had them in the past
too and drinking makes me feel
better...Not good though.
Regarding whats stressing me out this
time, im becoming an exchange student and
im gonna live in the u.S for a year. Im
leaving in 2 weeks...Naturally im worried
on how to handle my symptomes away from
home.
I try telling myself...The relief I felt
last time it "left" me, and how I "forgot"
the feeling...And I convince myself it
will be the same this time around.
I just dont want do die...And I dont want
a panic attack, I know how bad they
feel..Had my first at the age of 10.
You know I have been thinking about it and
come to the conclusion that maybe I cant
press away the feeling of suffocating, but
I can change the way I look at it. Not
something to panic about. I also feel
that it switches from feeling like I cant
breath, to feeling depressed or paniced.
Im going out tonight and im gonna try and
have a good time...I know this doesnt go
away over night, but I also know that I
cant possibly get worse than it has so its
only up from here then!
Bblair, by the way, how do you sleep and
have you had any type of medication, how
do you deal with social life, and have you
never suffered anything like this in the
past??
Love and support // sam
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Bblair
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Bellerose, NY
Grungeprincess Posted: 07-28-06 12:49pm
I sleep fine, but thats just me other
people cant fall asleep because they feel
it before they are about to sleep or what
not. I dont take any medication and I
never have cept for some allergy medicine
when I thought it was allergy related.
Ive had minor panic attacks in the past
nothing big maybe 1 or 2.
U wrote that u dont wanna die, I dunno
that just struck me. Do u worry about
death? I do alot I try not to cause it
bothers me more but I do now even more
since my friends death. But u are not
gonna die from what u have or from a panic
attack. Even though we feel at times we
cant breath, we obviously can cause were
here alive. Its just a sensation of
breathlessness thats more of an annoyance
than anything.
As far as my social life I try to go out
and have fun hang out with good positive
ppl and dont be afraid to talk to ur
friends about ur problem, talking about it
helps. Im glad to hear ur gonna go out
and have fun. I remember I was feeling
bad for a loooong time then I had a really
really fun night with my friends and felt
great for a few days afterwards.
When I read about u comign to the u.S.
And being an echange student I can see
whats stressing u out. It makes perfect
sense that ud be having these bad feelings
at this time. But at least u see whats
bothering u and u can work on that. Look
at all the good things instead of the bad.
People that have anxiety need to put it
somewhere, we put it on ourselves. We
worry about our health, we think we cant
breathe. Other people check things over
and over, otherwise known as o.C.D. If u
can take ur anxieties and try to put them
somewhere else ull feel better. Maybe go
running or draw or write. Whatever u
feel.
Dont worry about the past or the future
becuase they dont exist. Now, right now
is all that matters. Just live in the
now and ull be fine.
I hope u find some release, I know u have
the power in you.
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 07-29-06 04:33am
Could it be so that you "get used" to the
problem, and through that it isnt as much
of a chock as it was to feel anything
wrong with your breathing in the first
place.
What do you do about very intense anxiety,
I have severe attacks where I feel like im
capable of almost anything. I also have a
very fast heartbeat and tremblings.
Most of my anxiety is out of the feeling
that nothing will ever become the same
again, and that I didnt enjoy it to the
fullest when I was problemfree..I had the
same thoughts during the other times I
have had attacks of breathing problems. I
try not to worry about my deprature to the
u.S but its a travel I have been looking
forward to for 2 years...The thought of
this problem overshadowing that is
devastating and just makes me want do
die...I also spoke to one of my closest
friends I and just burst out crying cause
it was like...I will never be able to see
him again and feel normal...The last time
we met was the last time for that...Thats
such a grief I cant describe it!
I wouldnt want to die if I didnt feel like
this...But im not scared of death either,
its a weird comfort, that there is some
way out of the misery if all else
fails..
I just try so hard to remember how I got
better the last times, but its so hard!
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Bblair
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Bellerose, NY
Dont Give Up Posted: 07-30-06 00:05am
Death is no way out. Dont give up.
Heres my advice. If u want it back, then
!@#^ing take it back. Youre stronger than
u think, you are just letting this problem
make u think ur weak. Everything u want
can happen, if u want it hard enough. You
are healthy. Have u gone to doctors? Did
they tell you were ok? If so ur fine. I
know u still dont "feel" fine but that is
jsut ur shock from all of this and it gets
worse cause when it goes and then comes
back u worry more and u make it worse. U
need to realise this is just in ur head.
And I really think u need to work on ways
to control ur mind.
I cannot stress meditation enough.
Honestly I dont think id be in as good a
position as I am now without it. I still
have my days when I feel it here and there
but im working on training my brain to not
concentrate on my breathing. Any person
who keeps thinking to themselves "am I
breathing right?" is gonna think they have
a breathing problem. Breathing is second
nature, u shouldnt think about it. Me and
u have and its made us nuts and its
snowballed into this. It all stems from
anxietes over other things. You need to
control ur brain instead of having it
control u.
If u really want to take my advice, go
meditate. Either do it at home or look
for a buddhist temple in ur area, like I
did. Its great, its so calming. For me
its wednesday evenings that a bunch of ppl
come and meditate for like an hour. You
relax and think about one thing, nothing.
I know that sounds impossible but over
time u learn to do it better. Im not
gonna go into how u should meditate cause
u can easily look up the basics online but
make sure when u do, if u do, which u
should, that u just focus on ur breathing
which is slow and deep through ur nostrils
and when thoughts come into your head and
cloud ur mind just drop them like a hat
and continue focusing on ur breath.
Meditate, stay busy, eat healthy, have fun
and forget the bad thoughts. When u have
this sensation tell urself, its something
I made up and I can destroy this. Tell
yourself "i created this thing in my mind
and I can just as easily stop it". U will
have ur ups and downs, its just most
important for u to not let the downs take
control of ur life.
Also, have u told ur parents about this
problem. If not u should. It might be
helpful for u to see a therapist as well.
These are normal symptoms from anxiety
afterall and a therapist can help u out.
Anyway I hope u try and do some of the
things I listed, they helped me and I hope
they help u.
Sincerly
rob blair.
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 07-30-06 04:44am
I know all that that you have told me in
the past, about meditation and just
"forgetting about it" but I have too say
that the feeling is so weird for me its
just so weakening.
I think my mood has taken the biggest toll
really. I feel sensations of depression
and I also have had major anxiety attacks.
Naturally I have a hard time, letting go
of that, and I fear for example, being
home alone (right now, has never been a
problem in the past).
I remember from my previous episodes of
this problem, that sometimes I wouldnt
know what was worse, the anxiety or the
breathing problem. I had a very dark day
to day life and mostly I feared being
alone.
I also think that the problem eases at
night, I dont forget about it but I dont
feel a difficulty breathing, only that I
have to mind it. But still I dont have
the patience to appreciate this, I just
look at it in either black or white.
Either its good right now or not at all.
I try to appreciate all moves for the
better..Cause there will be more of them
to come. Last time it was just like that
too....Within a few days I will try and
lower my dose of diazepam.
I did it like that last time, and somehow
if I feel that the sleeping inst a cause
for worry this may lower my anxiety
somehow.
I think that I shouldnt worry too much and
think things like "oh, it feels worse
now..." "maybe it wont pass this time" "i
will have to kill myself cause I cant live
with the grief of never feeling the same"
these thoughts are my worse, and I know
its catastrophy thinking. But I feel like
if it would just go away right now, I
would be the happiest person in the world!
Like its too good to be true that it
would work out...Bad thinking I know!!
How does exercise affect you?? My
breathing feels much more strained when I
excercise. I also wake up with a very
fast heartrate and tremblings. Is you
problem present during the whole day from
the minute you wake up? Mine are and it
has been like this every time I have felt
it. I know that this is problem that gets
easier over time.
Dont you also think that you get used to
this, and when you do it goes away???
Thank you som much bblair...Ist such a
comfort to know that there are other
people in the world to support you, any
reply from you is great, you have no idea
the difference you make.
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Bblair
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Bellerose, NY
Hey Posted: 07-30-06 19:33pm
Like I said some days are better than
others. Sometimes if I dont think its my
breathing I think its my heart and imagine
things with that. Since you are on some
sort of medication. I am assuming u went
to doctors and they ruled out any possible
physical problems.
I feel my symptoms at different times but
usually not right when I get up.
U should discuss with those around u about
ur fear of being alone and how u going
away is bringing out that fear more. The
truth is u are never alone. Ever, ever,
ever. There is always someone going
through what u are. U are not alone even
though u may think u are alot of the time.
The reason why I suggest meditation so
much for you is because you will trian ur
brain not to think so much about ur
problem, not to focus on it so much. You
will still think about it but not to the
point where it bothers u. It takes time
and practice but any therapist will tell u
meditation is agreat way to help. If u
really want my help, u should at least try
it.
Some people think the only reason we cant
fly or caca like that is cause we were
told our whole lives we couldnt. I dont
know if I beleive that but the idea is
right. If u keep telling urself u are
sick and dying and ur alone and u will
never be ok again, well then u wont. The
truth is ur fine, ur better than fine, u
just have to beleive it. If a child is
born in a dark room and stays there till
he dies then thats what he will think the
world is, a dark room.
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 07-31-06 10:34am
I felt much better today actually, a weird
feeling that I didnt have trouble
breathing (i still thought about it alot
though) and when I get home, I get the
message that my grandmother passed away.
Somehow I knew it would happen...I sort of
said goodbye this saturday when we visited
her...Im worried that this will cause more
anxiety with me, but its still a release
cause she suffered so much which also
plagued me.
Is it a good sign I felt better today at
least for a little while, and its only
been slightly more than a week of this
problem?
Love/sam
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Bblair
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jul 2006 Posts: 18 Location: Bellerose, NY
Yea Thats Great Posted: 07-31-06 11:24am
Thats good news ur feeling better, sorry
about ur grandma though but if she was
suffering like u said its better for her
in the end. She lived a long life u
know.
Its funnny that u feel better and I kinda
am feeling a little shitty today.
Hahahah. Not with my breathing but just
feeling physically sluggish and tired, I
started falling asleep at like 8 last
night and work up at 11 this morning.
Thats a lot of really sleep lol. But
whatever.
Do u have a job? I just recently got one
again and everytime im at work I feel
fine. Its just somethign to keep ur mind
busy so it doesnt run away from u and
think all these bad thoughts.
Well im glad to hear ur having progress!
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 07-31-06 12:07pm
Im on summers vacation for the moment,
having been since june 14. Well today I
felt like my heartbeat slowed down, and
later on like I didnt have a hard time
breathing, rather like I just had to think
about it. This made me feel strange.
Like I was getting better but then I get
impatient like "get all good right now!"
i think this is a sign im getting better
cause last time it was like that too,
first feeling like im suffocating (a
feeling I still get on and off) and then
to just me thinking about it a lot, though
breathing not feeling strained, and then
into more of a depressed mode. All this
happening in like 4 weeks. Though I
remember last time when I started
forgetting about it for small times it was
such relief.
Regarding my night sleep, last night I
took only 1/4 of a pill, meaning I have
lowered my dose (again) I slept fine.
This is a great sign. My goal is to get
of the meds completely.
I also had a lift in my mood today, I have
started taking the natural supplement
5-htp to control my mood swings along with
this. I dont know if its working
though.
Tonight upon going to bed I will pray for
my grandmother and her spirits relief from
her suffering (she couldnt get out of bed,
read or barely speak). I did say goodbye
and I cried and told her how much I loved
her, she looked at me and she said "my
beloved sam" I will never forget that. I
know she loved me, we´ll meet again.
I must remain faithful to the fact that I
felt better today and I will again !
Thank you bblair (rob?) for being there
for me like you are. Truly your replies
delight me and keep me going. The time
you take responding is making a huge
difference in my life.
Im also wondering are you reading anything
for comfort? Like the bible or something
spiritual? Hope im not offending you
cause I havent got the slightest clue how
you are directed but I would recommend
"conversations with god" by neale donald
walsch. The series of books can change
your view on life, as it has with mine and
im only 16. I also think they work when
im greiving my grandmother cause they
explain that death isnt dark and painful.
When the soul leaves the body its filled
with love and happiness and calm. Thats
where she is now.
Love//sam
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 08-02-06 13:13pm
Hey have u guys abandoned me ??
Really need your advice right now. Today
I was feeling slightly better in the
afternoon. Tried to distract myself by
all means possible. I felt an increase in
anxiety and thought I was having an
attack. This is weird.
My emotions roller coasters on me all the
time. When I feel the anxiety coming on
strong I dont really feel the breathing as
much.
I feel a little scared to be alone and I
also feel like everytime someone has to
go, I feel lik a little child being left
all alone.
I have a hard time accepting if I feel
better, its like its too good to be true!
It would be a dream for me!
My symptoms are worse in the
morning/daytime how does this happen??
Since I have gotten better over the course
of less than 11 days, time should be
running out on this right??
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Decemberelement
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 2
Chest Tight/discomfort, Hard to Breath And Heart Palpitation Posted: 08-02-06 21:04pm
Last thursday after two back to back
stressful days at lunch with my kids, my
heart just started pounding and I felt
light headed. I found it hard to breath.
This feeling did not leave. Later that
day it was so bad I went to the hospital
because I was scared of a heart attack. I
was a three hour wait with people puking
all over the waiting room so I just went
home and was ready to call 911 if need
be.
A week later I went to my doctor
appointment and blood work was done and an
ekg. No blood clot in the lungs and not
heart problems. My blood pressure was
fine and no temperature. But, my lung
capacity was tested with this spiro thing
and it was very low. I registered between
250 and 300 and i'm 5'4'' and 120 lbs.
My doc is trying asthma medicine on me.
The breathing treatment he gave in the
doctor's office didn't seem to help
though. I am guessing the next step is a
chest x-ray. I am having sinus or some
kind of congestion I swallow down. I
checked the color and it's clear, doesn't
look gross or anything.
My started after intense stress. I have
had these sensations before but they are
worse this time and have lasted a week.
Whereas, before it lasted a day.
I looked up difficulty breathing and they
all same the same thing, the feeling of
needing to yawn to get a good breath or
feeling air hunger.
It's no fun because my heart beats fast
and my chest gets tight and it feel hard
to breath and I need to yawn to get my
breath. *yawn*
sleeping doesn't help, I tried that
earlier.
My shoulder blade started hurting today
too and my back always feel so tense and
tight. I pop my neck plenty and stretch
my back plenty.
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Grungeprincess
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 19 Location: Sweden
Posted: 08-03-06 10:03am
One thing I have noticed, both this time
and the last, is that the feeling of
breathlessness switches to a feeling of
depression and anxiety, this goes very
much up and down.
Its so weird, I cant stop my crying spells
and feeling of helplessness....I noticed
the exact same thing earlier times...Its
just so messed up (sorry to say) all the
anxiety and depression goes away when the
breathing problem has subsided. Should I
get help for it in the mean time??
The anxiety comes and goes but is worse
during the day time, I feel "abandoned"
somehow...Weird...Scared to be alone...Is
this some sort of "after reaction" to what
has happend.
Anyways im sleeping fine now without any
kind of meds! Big step !
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Decemberelement
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Aug 2006 Posts: 2
Allergies Posted: 08-03-06 11:29am
I have studied whole food nutrition and
have studied the processing of our food
and the beginning of our food as an
industry. I studied this because I wanted
to answer the question, "does the
chemicals in our food affect our
behavior?" common sense tells anyone that
when chemicals put inside your body
whether it's drugs or food chemicals will
affect your body mildly or greatly.
The amount of chemicals that go into our
processed foods we get from the store is
worse than smoking a cigarette. The
chemicals in our polluted air is also
pretty bad.
I beleive plenty of the depression
problems and allergies people face today
is because of our food industry and so I
beleive with education of how to use food
without chemicals can stop plenty of the
reactions we experience.
Does this make sense to anyone?
Thanks
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Witness
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 4
Posted: 08-03-06 21:23pm
Well.
I was amazed to find so many people having
the same problems.
To list my symptoms:
*difficulty getting a satisfying breath.
*sometimes having so much trouble that I
fear dying.
*increased mucus in the back of my throat
*the inability to to physically exerting
activity
*waking up feeling like I just held my
breath underwater or that I stopped
breathing.
*being unable to lean on my left side when
I sleep because of hearing my heartbeat.
*chest pain
*muscular and rib pain from straining
breathing.
*dizziness at times.
*tingling fingers
*a "pop" in my chest, when struggling for
a good breath.
This started in may and was on and off
until it just eventually didn't go away
again.
Heres the deal.
My mother died in march.
I suffered from anxiety attacks and
depression last year. I know what it
feels like.
I have asthma and allergies.
I just stopped smoking, but have been
smoking for 6 years.
Plain and simple, I have too many other
issues to just know it's anxiety, but if I
were to put money on it, I would put it on
anxiety.
Once I get my lungs checked out by a
pulmonary doctor, i'll feel secure in that
decision.
Here's how I feel you can call it
anxiety.
Do you feel it gets worse when you're
alone?
Do the really difficult attacks only last
15-30 minutes? Maybe more, but not all
day?
Does it feel better when you're not paying
attention to it?
Do you not notice it when you're in the
presence of loved ones or people you feel
safe with?
Like grungeprincess, i've dealt with
anxiety before. Although, I didn't have
the breathing issues.
It takes time.
In fact, mine only really went away after
major positive changes in my life.
I went on a musical tour.
I met a wonderful girl.
These things take me away from it.
Look at it this way.
You're not dying. (most likely, but
probably not if you have the symptoms
above)
but if your brain is telling you you're
dying...Then go out and live like it's
your last day.
Don't pay attention to it, live life and
live it hard.
And then one day, you'll wake up and
realize that you havent' felt that way in
a while.
Continue.
Granted, I haven't gotten there yet.
But that's my plan as soon as my asthma
doctor tells me it isn't asthma or
bronchial related.
Anxiety disorder, panic attacks &
depression are a sign that something is
wrong. Something needs to be amended in
your life.It could be your home
environment, your work environment,
relationships or an illness causing your
anxiety, panic ...
Iv got somthing to tell you all
your going to live !! Lol
I was just giving a shout out to my
homie hypo lol you know who this is :o
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klazzarus
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Aug 2006 Posts: 8
Coping With Anxiety Posted: 08-21-06 11:36am
Anxiety is a part of everyones life.
There are different ways of dealing with
different of anxiety owing different
causes. Proper treatment and support can
help a person to deal with their anxiety
in a better way and making living with it
better. And with time one can find
himself or herself free from the majority
of their issues. Causes and types
anxiety is mainly of two types. One type
is that type of anxiety with which you can
deal and the other type is worsened form
of anxiety which leaves a mark on your
personality. The first type of anxiety is
easy to deal with. Support from your near
and dear ones can help you to come out of
your anxiety or you can always deal with
it on your own, without needing any
support. But the second type of anxiety
requires some effort to make living easy.
The first thing that is needed to be done
is to determine which the type of your
anxiety is and then find out the root
cause of it. Causes for anxiety can be
external as well.
So in order to deal with your anxiety in a
better way you need to find out whether
your anxiety is caused due to an external
factor or not. Any bitter incident which
took place in your past life can be the
cause or sometimes it can be an indistinct
intuition that something is not right but
if your anxiety is due to some external
factors then you should work towards
dealing with it. However there is no
obvious external cause for anxiety
reactions to life.
Studies are still conducted to find out
the cause of anxiety in people who dont
have any reasonable past traumatic
experience which could lead to anxiety.
People with deep rooted anxiety may have
chemical imbalances in their brains for
improper registration of neuro chemicals.
However you should be aware that it is not
a proven fact with any concrete evidence.
A relatively new study conducted in 2005
showed that it is possible to do a normal
blood test to find out the chemicals
present in the brain which can cause
anxiety.
Symptoms
more or less all the anxiety symptoms are
quite well known because over the years
people have experienced anxiety. The
usual symptoms are prolific sweating, lump
in the throat, palpitations, twitching,
dry mouth, chest pain and shortness of
breath or wheezing. However these
symptoms can exist as side effects of some
other medicines or some other
psychological issues. When linked to a
phobia, as opposed to being general
anxiety disorder, the symptoms normally
only happen in reaction to explicit
stimuli.
Considering I don't seem to see anyone who
is actually figuring their way out of this
mess posting here.
Allow me to support the fact that, after
you go through some basic checkups from
doctors...You might want to accept that
it's anxiety.
More specifically....Hyperventilation
syndrome.
check that page out.
It straight up nailed my symptoms.
I guess i'm gonna try some
anti-depressants.
I've already had problems with anxiety and
depression in the past.
I would assume it was only difficult to
target because I also have asthma and
allergies.