is taking the morning after pill concidered abortion?
abortion
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not abortion
71%
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sunshine424
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 397 Location: New York
Posted: 11-29-05 18:31pm
eiri
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sunshine424
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
sunshine424
wrote:
again eiri, I don't feel you
should throw the bible in our faces when
you have "dogged" it numerous times.
Make up your mind ok? You either
believe in the bible or you don't.
actually i've said many times that I don't
believe in the christian god. But the
bible, as a book, has many very good
pieces of advice. Plus i'm deist,
which means I take ideas from all
religions to mold my own beliefs. And
one thing I feel strongly about is not
judging others.
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i don't view my
comments as heartless at all. Ironic
how you call it heartless but you don't
call the act of abortion "heartless".
Wow. Where are your priorities?
freedom for living breathing people.
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i'm sorry if it
bothers you that I speak the truth.
how so? Last time I checked, personal
opinions do not count as fact, and they
never will.
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carifairy did
kill 3 of her children and that is what
her life lacks. Whether it bothers
her or not, which obviously it doesn't, it
is the truth.
does my life lack because I don't have any
children? I've never tried to have
any. I'm quite happy living out my
early twenties childess, thanks very much.
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i agree, woman
that are raped and abort are not
heartless. Simply torn and unable to
make a good decision.
so the "right" desicion - the descision
the woman can't make because she's so
distraught - would be to bring an inbred
child of she and her father into the
world? How sick is that!?
"billy, your daddy is my daddy!"
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I have talked
about this before. But the selfish
woman who just can't seem to "fit" that
child she made into her life is a
heartless health question.
Sorry.
and that's your opinion. You do have
the right so say it, but why can't you try
to say it in a way that does not hurt
people's
feelings?
i don't like to judge others either.
But that only applies when the "others"
are not harming others with whatever it is
that their doing.
So abortion is not killing a baby? That
.I.S truth, not opinion.
if you'd paid attention, I have also said
several times that it is inded killing
something, a zygote, and embryo, a fetus.
None of which I consider a baby.
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and killing is
wrong. That is fact, not opinion,
although you may argue differently. If
your good, you do not think killing is ok.
you better be buddhist. Don't step on
any spiders, or let men masturbate, or
brush your teeth. In fact, don't move,
you're squishing bacteria.
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no, your life does not lack because you
have no children, because you never (from
what I know) have been pregnant. She
has. Her life lacked something she
started. It was obviously meant to be
for her to become pregnant and she took it
upon herself 3 f'ing times to kill 3 of
her very own children. Sick.
So are you saying you think it is sick
for a woman to decide to give birth to a
baby she conceived out of rape by her
.Father?
wouldn't you agree that incest and
inbreeding is sick?
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it is not the
babies fault.
then why bring a being into the world with
a high chance of mental and physical
problems because its genes are messed
up?
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the baby still
deserves life. And actually I was
speaking of a woman aborting her baby made
out of incest....Not keeping the baby.
I have more understanding of this
situation, although I do not condone
it.
i just find the idea of bringing life out
of such screwed up circumstances very
disturbing. And i'd certainly hope that
the father never sees that child. I pray
that child never finds out, because i'd be
highly disturbed if that was
me.
i am a couple days late, but let me answer
your questions.
Why must I "better be buddhist"?? You
know what I meant by killing. Killing a
spider or "bacteria" (just loved that one
:roll: ) is not anywhere near being the
same as killing a human being. Why must
you throw such a stupid comment as this
in? Your smarter than that it seems.
Of course incest and inbreeding is sick
times a trillion. But the woman did not
decide to incest herself, her father did
it to her. Sick, terrible, but not her
fault, nor the babies. I'm not saying
this would not be a hard situation. I
could not even imagine and wish nobody had
to deal with this.
I find a baby born out of incest
disturbing too. But it doesn't make me
feel it's right to kill it.
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sunshine424
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 397 Location: New York
Posted: 11-29-05 18:33pm
carifairy
wrote:
okay the name calling thing
has gone too far. Sunshine I do not
believe that I am better than you. I am
simply saying that I am just as happy in
my childfree life as you are in your life
decision to have children. Each person
in this world knows what is best for them,
including you knowing what is best for
you. We know what is best for us. What
is best for me, and what I like, is a
good college education and solid career
that I enjoy wholeheartedly. I would not
enjoy having children, that is just my
personal feelings on the
matter.
and that is wonderful. Your not less of a
person for not wanting children. But what
I believe is that your less of a person,
especially less of a woman for killing
your 3 children. And that is my opinion
100%.
If you don't want babies, and your birth
control is continuously "failing", then
don't have sex. But of course you will
like you said, because sex is more
important than the possiblity that you may
have to kill another youngin'. !!!!!
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sunshine424
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 397 Location: New York
Posted: 11-29-05 22:55pm
Okeydoke, than I ask, why did you deny
having your tubes tied??
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-30-05 00:16am
sunshine424
wrote:
okeydoke, than I ask, why
did you deny having your tubes
tied??
as she's said before, doctors won't do
hysterectomies to very young women.
Apparently they're too young to know if
they want kids or not. If they do end up
wnting kids, that's what adoption is for!
There are far too many kids that need
adopting, and too many infertile couples
who feel it "just wouldn't be the same" if
the kid wasn't physically related to them.
I just saw a national geographic program
today, and this woman said "i couldn't
tell that child what my grandparents and
ancestors did, because those things don't
mean anything in relation to the adopted
child, because it's not his family."
except that when ou adopted the kid, you
made him your family.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 11-30-05 01:46am
Doctors won't tie tubes in women who don't
have lots of kids, or who are so young.
Some abortion clinics will, but they are
so far awy
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sunshine424
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Nov 2005 Posts: 397 Location: New York
Posted: 11-30-05 06:57am
carifairy
wrote:
doctors won't tie tubes in
women who don't have lots of kids, or who
are so young. Some abortion clinics
will, but they are so far
awy
who cares if their far away? Take the
time and travel and do what's right.
Oops, I forgot, you find the easy way out
and kill the child instead of taking the
time to do a little traveling.
I don't enjoy telling you that you killed
your 3 children, but you did. I just wish
you didn't so I don't have to point it
out. I know you still don't feel you did
anything wrong so I might as well shutup
and stop telling you. So I
will......Continue debate!
