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Are you gay my default or is it a choice?
You are born gay
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You choose to be gay
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michelle1981

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Posted: 12-27-05 15:25pm

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this is in reply to fat family posts,firstly you do not have a clue what you are talking about ,being gay is nothing to do with a chemical imbalance.\
you simply are attracted to the other sex or your own,and it is defenetly not someting you choose! We are all on our own journeys here and some of us is gay and some of us is straight.

Frankly I find your posts down right ignorant

ignorant is a great word to describe her!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 12-27-05 19:14pm

Nice, you are such a nice person. (reference to "michelle1981")




fatfamily02 wrote:
everything in this world: disease, sickness, hate, anger, satan worshipping, mental illness, drug abuse, homicide rape, gay and lesbians, marriage breakers, adulterers, oppression, depression, possession. Anything "contrary to:" the word of .God, goodness, truth, love, peace, holyness, or a good report. Is all from demon activity. And they all just need the demons rebuked. Atleast I say "give them the traditional method (drugs) so they can realize it is a choice," and if they realize that then they can make the choice and once they "resist the devil he will flee from them"

we all have a free will .God cannot and will not take that from us, cuz he dont want us to serve him if we "have" to. The devil cannot take our free will either. For it is a choice whether we serve god and do the right thing, or if we fall for the trap of the devil and do his things. That is it.
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Posted: 12-27-05 19:28pm

I am! I take absolutely no offense to your words..... When a person means nothing to me, the same goes for their words!

I stand behind what I said....... You are ignorant!!!
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nightangel73

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Posted: 02-16-06 20:07pm

You know this thing of homesexuality is very complex. I do not believe people are born gay. There is no hormone imbalances in gays. There is no genetic proof of it. Then if it's not genetic it is pshycological. Now want went wrong during the development of the child or adult that lead to this condition should be more investigated. I believe it has to do with the environment and the natural sexual response of human beings. I have particular interest in the subject given that my brother was gay (may he rest in peace), the brother of my bf is also gay (talk about close gay genetics hehe) and my future boss is a lesbian.

I took a class in college about human genetics. The issue of homesexuality was discussed. The professior was talking to us about several cases she personally had seeing. One of them it was woman who had 6 children all boys. She was obsessed about having a baby girl so she decided to raised her last born boy as a girl. And she raised him with dolls and girly things. The guy became homosexual as he grew up. It is very obvious why. If the boy was raised like boy he probably wouldn't be gay. So in this case he wasn't born that way. He developed into it for enviromental reasons. We studied several other cases about sexual genetic disorders like testicular feminization, that is a woman that is xy and the phsychology of it. And the professor told us of a case she saw of it. The lady behaved like a normal female, liked men like normal women but she couldn't have kids. The doctor never told her it was because she was an xy to not traumatize her phsyco, he told her she couldn't had kids because of uterus problems. But the doctor did told her mom what really the problem was. It was very interesting class I can say.
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Posted: 02-17-06 16:15pm

shelly27 wrote:
this is in reply to fat family posts,firstly you do not have a clue what you are talking about ,being gay is nothing to do with a chemical imbalance.\
you simply are attracted to the other sex or your own,and it is defenetly not someting you choose! We are all on our own journeys here and some of us is gay and some of us is straight.

Frankly I find your posts down right ignorant


frankly I think your an fool and I agree with fatfamily.Do you watch tv,have you talked to a doctor?Obviously not! It is caused by a chemical imbalance so you should really get your facts strait b4 talkin caca! ; )
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jenn_smithson

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Posted: 02-17-06 21:50pm

The fact is that no one knows why there are people who are sexually attracted to persons of the same sex and other people who are sexually attracted to persons of the opposite sex. Because we do not know, we cannot say, one way or the other, what the cause is. And, because we do not know it does not mean that we cannot know or that we will never know, it simply means that more research is needed.

However, in talking with many of my gay and lesbian friends, all of them say that they knew from the youngest ages imaginable, from the youngest ages when any of us can remember anything, that they were gay. That and some newer clinical studies have led me to believe that people are born with their sexuality.

As with anything, people can hold whatever opinion they want and it doesn't affect actual people who are gay. Most gay people don't want everyone to be gay nor do they want much of anything else at all but to be left alone to live their lives as they see fit. Gay people are not immoral, evil, or inherently bad just as straight people are not inherently moral or good. In the end, gay people want what we all want. To be safe, to have good friends and good times, and to live and love the way that we do.
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Posted: 02-19-06 23:48pm

The rest of you are making yourselves sound hyprocrytical and ignorant, those of you who are writing bad things about fat family. You go out and have a gay pride parade to show the world you're gay and you don't want anyone persecuting you for your lifestyle and beliefs, but when fat family writes about god you tell her to stop it and that her beliefs aren't right. Well, god is her way of life, and if she wants to talk about god she can, just like if you want to talk about being gay you can. Just because you don't believe in god doesn't mean everyone who does can't talk about it because it might offend you! Well I hate to say it, but living a gay lifestyle offends a lot of people as you surely know(not saying it offends me so don't go calling me a homophobic or anything), so if you think you have the right to live your life the way you want and say the things you want to say, don't go telling someone else they can't talk about thier beliefs. You want people to accepting of you, but you're just as closed minded as anyone. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you're an expert on the reason for it either. Who knows, she could be right.
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michelle1981

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Posted: 02-20-06 07:21am

backhome22 wrote:
the rest of you are making yourselves sound hyprocrytical and ignorant, those of you who are writing bad things about fat family. You go out and have a gay pride parade to show the world you're gay and you don't want anyone persecuting you for your lifestyle and beliefs, but when fat family writes about god you tell her to stop it and that her beliefs aren't right. Well, god is her way of life, and if she wants to talk about god she can, just like if you want to talk about being gay you can. Just because you don't believe in god doesn't mean everyone who does can't talk about it because it might offend you! Well I hate to say it, but living a gay lifestyle offends a lot of people as you surely know(not saying it offends me so don't go calling me a homophobic or anything), so if you think you have the right to live your life the way you want and say the things you want to say, don't go telling someone else they can't talk about thier beliefs. You want people to accepting of you, but you're just as closed minded as anyone. Just because you are gay doesn't mean you're an expert on the reason for it either. Who knows, she could be right.

i'm not gay and I believe in god, so surely you couldn't have been talking to me! Just because I told her to quite bringing god into it.....God is her defense to everything!

So if your speech about being hypocritical is about me, point your finger else where!!!
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Posted: 02-20-06 14:32pm

michelle1981 wrote:
i'm not gay and I believe in god, so surely you couldn't have been talking to me! Just because I told her to quite bringing god into it.....God is her defense to everything!

So if your speech about being hypocritical is about me, point your finger else where!!!







i dont need a defense---.God is who .God is, and whether you believe or not all the same rules apply. Heaven and hell are just as real to him who doesnt believe as to him who does.





It is like you are saying--i hide behind .God. If you knew anything--you would be a lot better off. you have no clue about what it means to have a relationship with .God so quit acting like you have something to say about it---cuz you know nothing.---if you did, you would not talk about .God like that.
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first joanna lets stop referring to .God about everything. God can't "fix" them!
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michelle1981

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Posted: 02-20-06 15:59pm

fatfamily02 wrote:
michelle1981 wrote:
i'm not gay and I believe in god, so surely you couldn't have been talking to me! Just because I told her to quite bringing god into it.....God is her defense to everything!

So if your speech about being hypocritical is about me, point your finger else where!!!







i dont need a defense---.God is who .God is, and whether you believe or not all the same rules apply. Heaven and hell are just as real to him who doesnt believe as to him who does.






It is like you are saying--i hide behind .God. If you knew anything--you would be a lot better off. you have no clue about what it means to have a relationship with .God so quit acting like you have something to say about it---cuz you know nothing.---if you did, you would not talk about .God like that.
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first joanna lets stop referring to .God about everything. God can't "fix" them!
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how about you go away.... You freak!!!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-20-06 19:31pm

I am not the .F.R.E.A.K

you explain to me what I ever did to you??
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nightangel73

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Posted: 02-22-06 19:48pm

fatfamily02 wrote:
i am not the .F.R.E.A.K



you are not a freak fatfamily and I commend you for being a good christian.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 02-22-06 20:06pm

Thank you--nightangel
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 03-02-06 18:12pm

I think this is a wierd one

pro: born gay - surely as a kid you know whether you are attracted to girls and or guys and nothing changes that

against: born gay - sexually can be changed (navi for example!)

voted pro
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oneofthesun

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Posted: 03-26-06 17:48pm

fatfamily02 wrote:

i dont need a defense---.God is who .God is, and whether you believe or not all the same rules apply.



i don't need a defense for being queer either. Call it a choice if you want, I don't care.


Btw though, your belief about gays having a hormone imbalance is actually wrong. They already tried altering gay peoples' hormone levels and it doesn't work. That's old, old news now.
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AvatarOfUrDreams

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Posted: 05-17-06 23:29pm

There is a big difference between accepting that you are gay and living a lie because you don't want to be.

Lots of people do things that make them unhappy but cope and the same could be said about being gay.

If you don't want the stigma of coming to terms with how you were born then you can just fake it to the world. I personally don't agree with this approch but it can be done.

But if you want to be happy and fully satisfied with your life then you have no real choice then to be what you are.

You can't ask a cat to change into a dog but you can train it to act like one.

This whole "if you choose to be straight, you are" thing is total caca and I wish that everyone would just accept the scientific evidence!

Just last week they concluded another study that shows that a lesbian's brain is wired like that of a straight man.

How much more proof do these people need?

I honestly can say that I wish that I were not a lesbian but what am I going to do? I was with my fience for almost 5 years because I was too scared to admit who I was and wanted to keep up the act of "normalacy"

i slept with him and held hands in public and did everything that I could to try to make myself be attracted to him but it just didn't work - I was still atracted to chicks.

I tried for almost five freaking years to "change" myself but what came of it? Nonthing. It was five years wasted that I could have spent being happy.

Now I am contented to be single. Some day I will get up the courage to go out and get a girlfriend. Maybe someday I will even fall in love and get married to her. I can only hope that I will one day be as happy with someone as everyone else seems to be and I honestly don't care if it is a man or a woman that I find.

Just be who you are and to hell with everyone else.

Love is love is love and it doesn't matter who makes your heart skip a beat as long as you find someone that makes you happy. What other point is there to be alive other then to try and be as happy as you can durring your short time here.
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kim121

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Posted: 05-19-06 06:32am

I'm gay but I never ask why - I just am - I don't think you choose to be gay because choosing something is when you have control over the decision - the fact i'm gay is just the way my feelings are - I didn't conciously choose it!
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kim121

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Posted: 05-19-06 06:37am

I'm gay but I never ask why - I just am - I don't think you choose to be gay because choosing something is when you have control over the decision - the fact i'm gay is just the way my feelings are - I didn't conciously choose it! But I don't mind it either... I'm happy!
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w0rldd0minat0r

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Posted: 06-13-06 16:49pm

I love how fatfamily's posts that ive ever seen have all been about .God... Whats up with that?>
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Posted: 08-06-06 23:35pm

Are you gay my default or is it a choice?
You are born gay
67% [ 41 ]
you choose to be gay
32% [ 20 ]
total votes : 61

i think people arent born gay and d0nt chose to be gay either. I think its what they experience in life that influences them to be that way. Such as a bad relationship with a girl and heartbreak.. Even if a situation like that didnt occour, I think its hormonal which cant be controlled because u cant help what ur attraction goes to- for eg. Its like what u like to eat.. Other people wont like that food because theyre attracted to other kinds. If I was to chose between being born gay and choosing to be gay- I would say born gay because everything in life happends for a reason and u are born with those type of hormones.
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