this is in reply to fat
family posts,firstly you do not have a
clue what you are talking about ,being gay
is nothing to do with a chemical
imbalance.\
you simply are attracted to the other sex
or your own,and it is defenetly not
someting you choose! We are all on our
own journeys here and some of us is gay
and some of us is straight.
Frankly I find your posts down right
ignorant
ignorant is a great word to describe her!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-27-05 19:14pm
Nice, you are such a nice person.
(reference to "michelle1981")
fatfamily02
wrote:
everything in this world: disease,
sickness, hate, anger, satan worshipping,
mental illness, drug abuse, homicide rape,
gay and lesbians, marriage breakers,
adulterers, oppression, depression,
possession. Anything "contrary to:"
the word of .God, goodness, truth, love,
peace, holyness, or a good report. Is
all from demon activity. And they all
just need the demons rebuked. Atleast
I say "give them the traditional method
(drugs) so they can realize it is a
choice," and if they realize that then
they can make the choice and once they
"resist the devil he will flee from
them"
we all have a free will .God cannot and
will not take that from us, cuz he dont
want us to serve him if we "have" to.
The devil cannot take our free
will either. For it is a choice
whether we serve god and do the right
thing, or if we fall for the trap of the
devil and do his things. That is it.
I am! I take absolutely no offense to
your words..... When a person means
nothing to me, the same goes for their
words!
I stand behind what I said....... You are
ignorant!!!
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nightangel73
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 2713 Location: ,
Thanks: 19
Thanked:17
Posted: 02-16-06 20:07pm
You know this thing of homesexuality is
very complex. I do not believe people are
born gay. There is no hormone imbalances
in gays. There is no genetic proof of it.
Then if it's not genetic it is
pshycological. Now want went wrong during
the development of the child or adult that
lead to this condition should be more
investigated. I believe it has to do with
the environment and the natural sexual
response of human beings. I have
particular interest in the subject given
that my brother was gay (may he rest in
peace), the brother of my bf is also gay
(talk about close gay genetics hehe) and
my future boss is a lesbian.
I took a class in college about human
genetics. The issue of homesexuality was
discussed. The professior was talking to
us about several cases she personally had
seeing. One of them it was woman who had
6 children all boys. She was obsessed
about having a baby girl so she decided to
raised her last born boy as a girl. And
she raised him with dolls and girly
things. The guy became homosexual as he
grew up. It is very obvious why. If the
boy was raised like boy he probably
wouldn't be gay. So in this case he
wasn't born that way. He developed into
it for enviromental reasons. We studied
several other cases about sexual genetic
disorders like testicular feminization,
that is a woman that is xy and the
phsychology of it. And the professor told
us of a case she saw of it. The lady
behaved like a normal female, liked men
like normal women but she couldn't have
kids. The doctor never told her it was
because she was an xy to not traumatize
her phsyco, he told her she couldn't had
kids because of uterus problems. But the
doctor did told her mom what really the
problem was. It was very interesting
class I can say.
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 02-17-06 16:15pm
shelly27
wrote:
this is in reply to fat
family posts,firstly you do not have a
clue what you are talking about ,being gay
is nothing to do with a chemical
imbalance.\
you simply are attracted to the other sex
or your own,and it is defenetly not
someting you choose! We are all on our
own journeys here and some of us is gay
and some of us is straight.
Frankly I find your posts down right
ignorant
frankly I think your an fool and I agree
with fatfamily.Do you watch tv,have you
talked to a doctor?Obviously not! It is
caused by a chemical imbalance so you
should really get your facts strait b4
talkin caca! ; )
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 02-17-06 21:50pm
The fact is that no one knows why there
are people who are sexually attracted to
persons of the same sex and other people
who are sexually attracted to persons of
the opposite sex. Because we do not
know, we cannot say, one way or the other,
what the cause is. And, because we do
not know it does not mean that we cannot
know or that we will never know, it simply
means that more research is needed.
However, in talking with many of my gay
and lesbian friends, all of them say that
they knew from the youngest ages
imaginable, from the youngest ages when
any of us can remember anything, that they
were gay. That and some newer clinical
studies have led me to believe that people
are born with their sexuality.
As with anything, people can hold whatever
opinion they want and it doesn't affect
actual people who are gay. Most gay
people don't want everyone to be gay nor
do they want much of anything else at all
but to be left alone to live their lives
as they see fit. Gay people are not
immoral, evil, or inherently bad just as
straight people are not inherently moral
or good. In the end, gay people want
what we all want. To be safe, to have
good friends and good times, and to live
and love the way that we do.
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backhome22
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 195 Location: MN
Posted: 02-19-06 23:48pm
The rest of you are making yourselves
sound hyprocrytical and ignorant, those of
you who are writing bad things about fat
family. You go out and have a gay pride
parade to show the world you're gay and
you don't want anyone persecuting you for
your lifestyle and beliefs, but when fat
family writes about god you tell her to
stop it and that her beliefs aren't right.
Well, god is her way of life, and if she
wants to talk about god she can, just like
if you want to talk about being gay you
can. Just because you don't believe in
god doesn't mean everyone who does can't
talk about it because it might offend you!
Well I hate to say it, but living a gay
lifestyle offends a lot of people as you
surely know(not saying it offends me so
don't go calling me a homophobic or
anything), so if you think you have the
right to live your life the way you want
and say the things you want to say, don't
go telling someone else they can't talk
about thier beliefs. You want people to
accepting of you, but you're just as
closed minded as anyone. Just because you
are gay doesn't mean you're an expert on
the reason for it either. Who knows, she
could be right.
the rest of you are making
yourselves sound hyprocrytical and
ignorant, those of you who are writing bad
things about fat family. You go out and
have a gay pride parade to show the world
you're gay and you don't want anyone
persecuting you for your lifestyle and
beliefs, but when fat family writes about
god you tell her to stop it and that her
beliefs aren't right. Well, god is her
way of life, and if she wants to talk
about god she can, just like if you want
to talk about being gay you can. Just
because you don't believe in god doesn't
mean everyone who does can't talk about it
because it might offend you! Well I hate
to say it, but living a gay lifestyle
offends a lot of people as you surely
know(not saying it offends me so don't go
calling me a homophobic or anything), so
if you think you have the right to live
your life the way you want and say the
things you want to say, don't go telling
someone else they can't talk about thier
beliefs. You want people to accepting of
you, but you're just as closed minded as
anyone. Just because you are gay doesn't
mean you're an expert on the reason for it
either. Who knows, she could be
right.
i'm not gay and I believe in god, so
surely you couldn't have been talking to
me! Just because I told her to quite
bringing god into it.....God is her
defense to everything!
So if your speech about being hypocritical
is about me, point your finger else
where!!!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-20-06 14:32pm
michelle1981
wrote:
i'm not gay and I believe in
god, so surely you couldn't have been
talking to me! Just because I told her
to quite bringing god into it.....God is
her defense to everything!
So if your speech about being hypocritical
is about me, point your finger else
where!!!
i dont need a defense---.God is who .God
is, and whether you believe or not all the
same rules apply. Heaven and hell
are just as real to him who doesnt believe
as to him who does.
It is like you are saying--i hide behind
.God. If you knew anything--you
would be a lot better off.
you have no clue about what it means to
have a relationship with .God so quit acting
like you have something to say about
it---cuz you know nothing.---if you
did, you would not talk about .God like
that.
Quote:
tr>
first joanna lets
stop referring to .God about everything.
God can't "fix" them!
i'm not gay and I believe in
god, so surely you couldn't have been
talking to me! Just because I told
her to quite bringing god into it.....God
is her defense to everything!
So if your speech about being hypocritical
is about me, point your finger else
where!!!
i dont need a defense---.God is who .God
is, and whether you believe or not all the
same rules apply. Heaven and hell
are just as real to him who doesnt believe
as to him who does.
It is like you are saying--i hide behind
.God. If you knew anything--you
would be a lot better off.
you have no clue about what it means to
have a relationship with .God so quit acting
like you have something to say about
it---cuz you know nothing.---if you
did, you would not talk about .God like
that.
Quote:
tr>
first joanna lets
stop referring to .God about everything.
God can't "fix" them!
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how about you go away.... You freak!!!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-20-06 19:31pm
I am not the .F.R.E.A.K
you explain to me what I ever did to you??
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nightangel73
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Nov 2005 Posts: 2713 Location: ,
Thanks: 19
Thanked:17
Posted: 02-22-06 19:48pm
fatfamily02
wrote:
i am not the .F.R.E.A.K
you are not a freak fatfamily and I
commend you for being a good christian.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-22-06 20:06pm
Thank you--nightangel
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 03-02-06 18:12pm
I think this is a wierd one
pro: born gay - surely as a kid you know
whether you are attracted to girls and or
guys and nothing changes that
against: born gay - sexually can be
changed (navi for example!)
voted pro
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oneofthesun
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Ontario Canada
Posted: 03-26-06 17:48pm
fatfamily02
wrote:
i dont need a defense---.God is who .God
is, and whether you believe or not all the
same rules apply.
i don't need a defense for being queer
either. Call it a choice if you want, I
don't care.
Btw though, your belief about gays having
a hormone imbalance is actually wrong.
They already tried altering gay peoples'
hormone levels and it doesn't work.
That's old, old news now.
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AvatarOfUrDreams
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 May 2006 Posts: 67 Location: Chicago
Posted: 05-17-06 23:29pm
There is a big difference between
accepting that you are gay and living a
lie because you don't want to be.
Lots of people do things that make them
unhappy but cope and the same could be
said about being gay.
If you don't want the stigma of coming to
terms with how you were born then you can
just fake it to the world. I personally
don't agree with this approch but it can
be done.
But if you want to be happy and fully
satisfied with your life then you have no
real choice then to be what you are.
You can't ask a cat to change into a dog
but you can train it to act like one.
This whole "if you choose to be straight,
you are" thing is total caca and I wish
that everyone would just accept the
scientific evidence!
Just last week they concluded another
study that shows that a lesbian's brain is
wired like that of a straight man.
How much more proof do these people
need?
I honestly can say that I wish that I were
not a lesbian but what am I going to do?
I was with my fience for almost 5 years
because I was too scared to admit who I
was and wanted to keep up the act of
"normalacy"
i slept with him and held hands in public
and did everything that I could to try to
make myself be attracted to him but it
just didn't work - I was still atracted to
chicks.
I tried for almost five freaking years to
"change" myself but what came of it?
Nonthing. It was five years wasted that I
could have spent being happy.
Now I am contented to be single. Some day
I will get up the courage to go out and
get a girlfriend. Maybe someday I will
even fall in love and get married to her.
I can only hope that I will one day be as
happy with someone as everyone else seems
to be and I honestly don't care if it is a
man or a woman that I find.
Just be who you are and to hell with
everyone else.
Love is love is love and it doesn't matter
who makes your heart skip a beat as long
as you find someone that makes you happy.
What other point is there to be alive
other then to try and be as happy as you
can durring your short time here.
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kim121
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 9 Location: northumberland
Posted: 05-19-06 06:32am
I'm gay but I never ask why - I just am -
I don't think you choose to be gay because
choosing something is when you have
control over the decision - the fact i'm
gay is just the way my feelings are - I
didn't conciously choose it!
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kim121
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 9 Location: northumberland
There Is No Answer... Posted: 05-19-06 06:37am
I'm gay but I never ask why - I just am -
I don't think you choose to be gay because
choosing something is when you have
control over the decision - the fact i'm
gay is just the way my feelings are - I
didn't conciously choose it! But I don't
mind it either... I'm happy!
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 06-13-06 16:49pm
I love how fatfamily's posts that ive ever
seen have all been about .God... Whats up
with that?>
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pure_l0ve
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Aug 2006 Posts: 5 Location: australia
Hmmm What a Hard Question! Posted: 08-06-06 23:35pm
Are you gay my default or is it a choice?
You are born gay
67% [ 41 ]
you choose to be gay
32% [ 20 ]
total votes : 61
i think people arent born gay and d0nt
chose to be gay either. I think its what
they experience in life that influences
them to be that way. Such as a bad
relationship with a girl and heartbreak..
Even if a situation like that didnt
occour, I think its hormonal which cant be
controlled because u cant help what ur
attraction goes to- for eg. Its like what
u like to eat.. Other people wont like
that food because theyre attracted to
other kinds. If I was to chose between
being born gay and choosing to be gay- I
would say born gay because everything in
life happends for a reason and u are born
with those type of hormones.