Eugenics to Neo Eugenics - Reproductive Choice Posted: 08-17-05 06:45am
The strategy has several parts; each part
must be understood in order to understand
the whole.
First. The eugenicists still appeal to
racism but the appeal is well disguised -
going by such code names as "gene
frequency", which is a legitimate term in
genetics. This intellectual camouflage is
adaptive behavior in the service of
survival, a technique which the
eugenicists have apparently learned from
the animals they strive to emulate.
Second. The eugenicists adopted a policy
of "crypto-eugenics" following world war
ii. "crypto-eugenics" means working
through other organizations, such as the
international planned parenthood
federation.
Third. The eugenicists adopted the tactic
of finding and using ambiguities and
loopholes in the law. Ambiguities or
loopholes found by eugenic lawyers such as
glanville williams (es) and harriet pilpel
are exploited to allow eugenical doctors
such as dugald baird (es), leonard arthur
(es) and alan guttmacher (aes) to
introduce the desired eugenic activity as
a normal medical procedure, done at the
patient's request. Introducing the
eugenic activity as a normal medical
procedure allows it to be shrouded in
medical privacy - an extra layer of haze
in addition to that gained by working
through other organizations.
Four. The eugenicists use the techniques
of modern advertising to rally support.
Since the goal is antidemocratic and the
means involves secrecy and legal quibbles,
only advertising is really suitable as a
means of, well, of advertising. After
all, people have to find out somehow that
steroids are available for their
girlfriends, abortions and infanticide for
their children, starvation for their
injured realtives and a suicide machine
for their elderly parents. Only
advertising knows how to motivate people's
wallets while bypassing their heart and
brain.
And how successful eugenic advertising has
been! People who would scorn to be caught
believing in the marlboro man or to
repeating "it's the real thing" without
ironic overtones, will absorb complete
little fantasies from condom and abortion
ads. They mouth empty slogans such as
"it's a woman's choice" or "safe sex" with
a devotion that must bring tears of
ecstasy to the poll takers and ad men
involved. Slogans and demons are
preferred to reasons. Campaigns based on
fostering hatred of the roman catholic
hierarchy have proved very successful in
persuading women to take cancer causing
steroids. In another triumph, the word
"selection" used by josef mengele at
auschwitz has been metamorphosed into
"choice" and gained the support of the
american hebrew union.
Five. The great enemy of eugenics is and
always has been the roman catholic church.
The eugenics societies therefore expend
great energy on destroying or neutralizing
this church's opposition. For example, in
the early sixties, while eugenic journals
were filled with discussions of how best
to change society in the eugenic
direction, eugenicists engaged certain
deluded catholics, such as fr. John
o'brien of notre dame, in solemn
discussions about "not imposing morality".
These unhappy souls were then persuaded
to work to prevent the church from taking
a stand on eugenic issues because "it was
not right for the church to impose its
moral values on others". Thus, as the
eugenicists worked to change society and
impose their disastrous morality on
everyone, (see for example, "population
policy", kingsley davis, science, v. 158,
1967, p. 730 with its sequels "beyond
family planning", john d. Rockefeller
iii, bucharest, 1974 and the proposed
cairo protocols 1994) they had the
satisfaction of seeing the catholic church
divided and weakened in its opposition to
them by some catholic bishops, priests,
papers and magazines. And even today some
"catholics", such as daniel callahan of
the american eugenics society, do every
thing they can to keep the church from
effectively opposing the imposition of
eugenic morality on everyone.
It is a matter of historical fact that the
catholic church is the only international
organization run by a group of well
educated, dedicated men, which opposes
eugenics. Why this is so is a mystery.
And the demonic delight the eugenicists
feel in attacking the catholic church is a
mystery too.
But with each passing day the issue
becomes clearer: eugenics or democracy.
On one side are the rich and powerful
eugenicists, the followers of malthus by
way of darwin. These scrooges think that
there are too many sick, too many old, too
many inferior, too many chinese, too many
indians, too many, too many, too many
people. They want to take evolution into
their own qualified, elite, wonderful
hands; they don't believe in the sanctity
of life or in democracy, its political
expression; and they have learned nothing
from the series of social disasters which
their policies have inflicted on this
century - except to be careful not to get
caught. That's one choice.
And on the other side, there are the
orthodox catholics who believe that the
world was made by a great and loving
creator on behalf of persons, all of whom
are immortal souls from the moment of
conception. Catholics believe that the
world has a redeemer, jesus christ; and a
mother to teach it unselfishness - the
great mother of god, mary most holy.
Therefore they oppose that degradation of
human beings which is eugenics and support
democracy. That's another choice.
Between these two organized camps lie most
of the people of the world. In obscure
ways over the next thirty years they will
choose between the two. This decision
will be the first global decision.
As the song says: " which side are you on?
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Izzy
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Posted: 08-17-05 08:57am
"not your side, nazi boy."
historically the nazi's were for eugenics,
so if anything you are the one with the
nazi ideology. :lol: nazi girl
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Izzy
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Posted: 08-17-05 09:13am
I have shown how it is neo eugenics, but
you are either too uneducated to
understand, to ignorant to care and to
read it or both.
Neo eugenics gives women the choice but
they use subtle coersion by advertising
and feel good buzz words. Like
"reproductive choice" "genetic freedom" to
make people believe that it is peoples
right to decide who is suitable and who is
not.
Why is it the majority of abortions are on
poor people, why have blacks got a higher
abortion rate than white, why is birth
control promoted in schools among underage
working class girls, why are their
abortion rates increasig at a faster rate
than any other group in society. Its a
subtle coersion by use of perception
managment to camoflage eugenics as a
choice not force - hence neo eugenics or
new eugenics
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Izzy
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Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 08-17-05 09:47am
"it is a woman's right to be able to
control her body"
agreed.
"the majority of abortions are on white,
middle class women. Get the facts right
before you spout your ignorant as/s off."
i suppose you have proof of this
assersion
when I checked it up I got the abortion
rate per 1,000 women by race is 18 for
whites, 54 for blacks and 38 for other
groups and the 2nd most common reason for
an abortion was they "could not afford a
baby" which is suggestive that poor
people, more so black people are more
likely to get an abortion.
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Izzy
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Posted: 08-17-05 10:23am
"if this was true, you wouldn't support
limiting her to reproductive rights as
well"
i dont support limiting reproductive
rights
btw your link didnt work.
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Izzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 08-18-05 09:14am
"if you are in favor of making abortion
illegal, then yes, you do"
no, no I dont, since being pregnant means
you have already reproduced and made a
choice about your reproductive right.
Abortion is not a reproductive right, it
is not a reproductive choice, since you
have already reproduced, abortion is a
right to kill a child or not.
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seksiHily
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Posted: 08-18-05 13:04pm
Izzy, im sorry but why are you so obsessed
with nazis and eugenics?
I think about 25% of your posts mention
it.
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Izzy
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Posted: 08-18-05 14:29pm
Because, people need to know!
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seksiHily
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Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 08-18-05 17:18pm
I think we've all heard it now and u seem
to be the only one agreeing with it...
Prolifers correct me if im wrong
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DVantMIKE
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I Got Your Back Izzy Posted: 09-23-06 10:50am
Ehh erhm please excuse my broad focus of
speak.
Its 10 am and i've been reading all night
about eugenics and the secret elite
societies of german and british desent who
beleive that eugenics is neccesary to free
the world of it's misery, and
"undesirables".
I think these people are driven damn near
mad with thier power, and thinking they
can control every aspect of life. At the
same time I can sympothize with them
having to deal with these herds of
"stupid" people who don't like to think
for themselves and crouch down for the
hands that feed them.
I despise how they target sertain races as
weak or inferior, as if they are so great.
I mean yeah some people do bring more to
the table of civilization than others
(some may even rape great benifit from
those who do), like say benjamin franklin
or thomas jefferson vs. Any bush or anna
nicole smith. Not everyone is going to be
super inteligent in this world. Every
race has its high points givin its chance
to shine, and although i'm
caucasion(italian-no check box for that is
there??) or white, as people like to call
me, I don't want to live in a world of
only white people. Whats the fun in that.
No diversity?
No competition?
No contrast?
Statistically japanese peeps have highest
iq followed by americans and europeans
followed by mexicans and africans, but
there are always ones to disprove these
stereotypes with flying colors. I beleive
its all in the will of the person given
the advantages/disadvantages that person
has faced along with their genetics. But
tables can turn without notice,
disadvantages into advantages, pain and
sacrifice into strength and wisdom.
Many african americans I beleive seem to
prove to be strong souls when put under
great pressure and oppression. The elite
"white man"(definately not me) has done
everything in its power to keep blacks and
africa weak,(from segregation and crack to
engineering aids and chaos in their social
and political circles) all for the benifit
of the "mighty" and "righteous" us of a.
Who reaps all profits of south africas low
cost resources and (in the past) slavery,
supposedly nessesary to sustain our way of
life. Still many overcome and are
stronger better people because of this.
If you ask me i'm sure every race has
earned its place in this world somehow,
and there is no single race who is able to
determine another unfit or inferior.
These elite spoiled brats who run the
world today, and think of themselves to be
so high and mighty, are a bunch of leeches
and tyrants living off the blood and sweat
of the grunts. Why?.. Because they are
good at manipulating what is that?? Or is
it that people are easily manipulated???
Maybe both??
Anyways, i'm getting tired and into other
matters... I do beleive we have a
responsiblity to ask ourselves the
questions.. Do I feel am I fit to bring
another soul into this world?? Am I
making a contribution to society by doing
so?? Am I prepared??? Do I really want
to give up my current lifestyle yet???
And so on...
I was an unplanned child and I am proud of
this. My life isnt very easy but it's
also not the hardest, and i'm sure I was a
handfull growing up but thats life and it
is full of suprises. All you can do is
hope for the best and prepare for the
worst. I know i'm glad my mom decided not
to abort me... Although this cruel world
makes me sometimes wish I could just
disappear, or die and reincarnate (lol if
thats what even happens noone really
knows). I live and I learn the world is
tough but a challenge is a good thing...
Imagine everything could be done with very
little effort, wheres the glory in that???
Eugenics is definately an interesting
subject to me because of this, and I try
to understand it without any bias or
misconceptions, although it is shady
business in many casses I think there is
some light to be seen and several life
lessons to be learned.
People with great power should humble
themselves, they are not god and they can
really !@#^ health question up trying to
be. Change takes time, they know this...
Which is why we are being conditioned
every day thru the media propaganda we are
fed daily by tyrannous media giants along
with the occasionall "terrorist attack" to
really shake people up and bring about a
quick change... Like the patriotact
voiding our constitution all in our stupor
of panic and fear!!! People really need
to wake up and realize we live in a (yes)
fascist country (look it up) sadly it will
be too late before they do.
A few interesting quotes:
-life is no brief candle to me. It is a
sort of splendid torch which i've got to
hold up for a moment and I want to make it
burn as brightly as possible before
handing it on to future generations.
(george bernard shaw)
-if ye love wealth greater than liberty,
the tranquility of servitude greater than
the animating contest for freedom, go home
from us in peace. We seek not your
counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and
lick the hand that feeds you. May your
chains set lightly upon you; and may
posterity forget that ye were our
countrymen. (samuel adams)
-evolution is the development of the
energy of the universe in such a way that
it has an increasing ability to
consciously control itself and the
universe around it. It is a progressive
change from the unconscious to the
conscious. We are the universe trying to
comprehend itself. Man is the corporeal
manifestation of the universe trying to
control its own destiny. Man is god in
the process of coming into existence.
(james hart eugenic manifesto)
-the fact itself, of causing the existence
of a human being, is one of the most
responsible actions in the range of human
life. To undertake the responsibility--to
bestow a life which may be either a curse
or a blessing--unless the being on whom it
is bestowed will have at least the
ordinary chances of a desirable existence,
is a crime against that being. (john
stuart mill, essay on liberty)
