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bobbynz

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How Do I Know If I Should Stay In My Marriage?
Posted: 08-21-05 22:41pm

I have had this feeling for a long time that something in my relationship is amiss. We have been married for 11 years now and like many marriages we never expected to to be easy all the time. However for a number of years now things have been progressively worsening. Last year she threataened to leave and I talked her out of it (it was over something my mother did). This is not the first time either. Over the past 11 years she has threatened to leave once before and told me I can leave if I want to on two occasions.

Major changes started when I lost my job six years ago and didn't work for 18 months. I started to get the feeling that she resented me being at home all day, regardless of the fact that I would rather have been working, I kept house wrote endless job applications went to endless interviews and was turned down again and again (i eventually go a job throught an old friend doing a favour).

Then, as is the case now, my wife withdrew from me, I am not too sure that she loves me in the same way as when we got married. These days I have to be very careful.


I feel like I have to account for every moment of my time. - she would call me up during the day and check up on me. Tell me to do things. And then start an argument if I do not or refuse. She wants to know where I am at all times. I cannot deviate from my schedule i.E. Work-home by 6.30pm. If I do, then she gets upset and tells me that I am being inconsiderate.


I feel like I have to account for all my spending. - for some reason, I use the joint account for all my banking and she has her own account. This means she not only spends her own money, but she spends mine too! And then doesn't understand why the account is overdrawn each month.

My wife puts me down. She finds any opportunity to criticize me. - this is subtle as she only does it when we are alone. She has the last say in all discussions. And all her decisions are justified. Money, kids... You name it. She does not consider my viewpoint to be valid. I do not know how to bring up chldren. I do not know the best way to clean something. I have to be told, in detail, how to do anything regardless of whether I have done it countless times before or was the one who showed her how to do it in the first place.


I feel like I can't do anything right in my wife's eyes. - if something is amiss - she can find reason to turn it into my fault. My worst time is buying things for my wife as I know they will not meet her approval. Her xmas presents are still unused in the closet. Her birthday present - jewellry - was worn for a month and never again. If we go out, she tells me to choose a venue to eat and then criticizes my choice.


I am blamed for just about everything that goes wrong. - if she feels that she has been wronged, she insists on an immediate apology. Even then it is not normally immediately accepted; until she has laboured the point long enough to feel satisfied that she is justified in her position. However if she has done wrong, she will not immediately accept it as her fault and rarely gives an apology. I try to communicate rationally only to be ignored, belittled or not even heard.


Over the years my friends have fallen away. Our close friends are her friends only. She has donee this throught selective criticism, and dislike at one point or another to the point where we were not invited or included in my friends activites. If we were she would make it as difficult as possible to be an enjouyable event. Now it is the turn of my family. If I speak to any of my family, my wife wants to know exactly what I told them. She has become suspicious of nearly everyone except my dad. I cannot visit my mum anymore without my wife throwing a tantrum. I hardly ever call my mum now and she will not phone the house. Basically my wife has effectively cut me off from my mum.

Any sort of intimacy is very rare. I feel like I have to catch her off guard. Whyen we sleep she curls up on the opposite side of the bed and falls asleep with her back to me. Basic kisses, no cuddles, no touching, and certainly no sex. Last year, my wife said that if I lost weight, then our sex life would improve. I lost 18kg. I am now lighter than when we got married. She didn't acknowledge that until her friends mentioned it and I think became jealous at their responses. Now she wants me to do stomach exercises to get 'abs' before we have sex. I have never had 'abs'!!

I do not want to go anywhere with my wife anymore - she just makes it a painful exerience. I dread coming home from work. If I take the kids to bed at 8.30pm I stay there in the dark -feigning sleep. If its my wife's turn, I relish the thought of being on my own for the evening. Weekends are torture. I prefer it if she is busy doing her own thing and I look after the kids or she takes the kids and I go and garden.

I have thought about marriage counselling. We tried it before but it did not work - she turned it into my issues. I thought about sitting her down and talking about these issues, but she would again make it my problem for being uncommunicative, when she does not provide an environment for wanting to be communicative. Her opinion is right, it is the only worthwhile opinion. She is always right. She compares me to any loser that we may know depending on the problem: procrastination - her father, bad father - her friend's ex husband, the list goes on.

I feel victimised and used. My wife has me by my values. She knows I would find it difficult to leave because of the children. I came from a divorced family and didnt want to subject the same thing to my kids, so have stuck it out this long. But is it best to stick out a bad marriage because of them - what will it do to me? Now I am starting to question my motives.

I have the opportunity to get a better job in another city. But my wife is refusing to move. The offer is still open but she stalls, makes rediculous demands saying that if the guy wants me that bad he'll do better. I have been looking for another job of 2 years where we currently live and I keep getting turned down. I don't know if it is my age or what. This is the only decent offer I have had.


Help me. What do I do now? I cannot afford counselling. I would appreciate someone elses experience on this.


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Spanky2005

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Sounds a Little Like My Story!
Posted: 08-21-05 23:13pm

I couldnt help but smile after I read your account.
My wife shares a lot of similarities with yours. Her not being able to get along with my family, and her dislike of my friends too. She calls my friends "losers" and makes every attempt that I never see any of them.
She doesnt get along with my mom, dad, sisters just my brother but only because he never says anything.



She points out my driving mistakes when I taught her driving in the first place. The only difference is that we have a pretty good sex life.
We have had plenty of fights and have threatened divorce on plenty of occasions. I tell my wife I am going to leave her at least once in two months. She is not scared of my divorce threats anymore. When we go on vacation. I can't be alone for ten minutes before she will come looking for me. I cant get a night out in the casino by myself even if I go there after everything is done for the day and the kids go to sleep. She is scared I might meet someone I guess. Sometimes I feel what it would be like with another lady with a more pleasant personality. But the kids are what keep us together.

I cannot figure out what the problem could be in your relationship. It could be that she is not attracted to you anymore because of your imperfect weight situation (based on what you said) and that is why she has much less respect for you. It could also be your inability to get a good job.
Women dont respect men that cant earn a good living.

Why dont you accept the job in the other city and move there on your own and try staying away from her for some time? Then see how her attitude changes.
I think you definitely need some kind of change.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 08-21-05 23:16pm

Wow, I really do not to get into marriages but I will give you my opinion, I have been divorced three times. You are going thru mental abuse, I do not know the whole story because I have not heard her side of the story or situation, I am sure it is affecting your kids, sometimes a separation does help, that is if you were to work out of town for a while, her hormones might be off balanced. Things are never the way they used to be, she sounds like a very controller and wants to be your mother, maybe your marriage does need some space.
Good luck on what you decide. Keep us posted.
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bobbynz

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Marriage Is Never Easy
Posted: 08-23-05 19:33pm

Its comforting somehow to realise that you are not the only one going through this. I cannot say that I have not been at fault. There are things that I should have said and done years ago that would have prevented the situation I find myself in today. I should have stood my ground, spoke up, pushed my views. But I am not that sort of person.

The marriage counsellor from years ago put it that I had a phlegmatic personality and my wife a choleric one - not the best of matches. I avoid arguments/confrontations as I think there is always a better route - especially when most of them are being picky. My wife comes to the boil quickly and when she has been appeased, acts like nothing happened. However she manges to bring up that point again months, even years later. I like routine, I plan, but not in detail and not 6 months ahead. I do withdraw - which is never a good thing and i've tried to correct it. So, probably many would say, not the easiest person to get along with - but then who is?

You are probably right in that we should separate. We ended up not living together 4 years ago for about 18 months due to me getting a job too far away to commute. I had to choose then to either keep the job or keep the marriage - I decided to give the marrage another go. I find myself in the same boat again. Take to job or take the marriage.

The only reason why the job is a factor is because as I am in my mid 40s and jobs are becoming fewer and fewer. I fear that I will get to the point where I will not be able to effectively provide for my family. This brings us back to the respect factor!!

I think I need the change too.
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jenjsmith

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Posted: 08-25-05 23:21pm

Boy do I feel your pain. I was in a marriage very much like yours. One day I looked at my kids and asked myself is this really what I want them growing up thinking a marriage was like? Was this how I wanted them to be treated or to treat their spouse? The answer was no. And I walked. That was 5 yrs ago. I left my husband. Filed for divorce, went back to school and found my self again. Today I am about to graduate, I am remarried and I had my 4th child this past december. And me and my children are doing 100% better. I now have a loving spouse and a happy family. It's hard to walk away, but you really need to look inside yourself. Is this what you really want? Is it healthy for you and your children? Do you really believe it will get better? If the answer is no then it's time to go.
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rainfalls

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Posted: 08-26-05 16:09pm

I hate saying that but sounds like she is abusive, controlling with everything and that is no way to live, and shows nothing to your kids accept it is okay for mom to treat dad like this, which then, your girls will do it when they get older, or sons will find someone like that when they get older, the cycle continues.
Was your mom kinda like that? I am playing dr here.
A happy daddy will be better for the kids.
Do what you want, do what will make you happy, this is what matters as selfish as it sounds, as long as you arent beocming like totally selfish, you know what I mean hopefully.
Life is too short is really to true!
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bobbynz

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It Is Hard to Walk Away
Posted: 08-28-05 23:22pm

I dont know if you get conditioned or what, but I find it really hard to make that jump. Yes, it is an abusive, controlling environment and I firmly beleive that it will not get any better.

I do not want my kids to believe that this is how marriage is. I can see that it is already starting to affect my kids in their attitude - especially in the last 12-18 months. My folks divorced when I was 7, and this is part of the reason why I find this difficult - I never wanted to subject my kids to what I went through, this is why I have endured it this long. But now I see that if I prolong it, it will only be worse for the kids. From what I have read on this and other forums it gets harder as they get older.

I too do hope that my actions are not being selfish and this is why I have spent a long time considering my options. I believe I deserve more. I see it in relationships around me and that is what I want too. I was very happy to find this forum and have been amazed at the replies received. Thank you and keep them coming.

I draw strenght on the responses that you have sent me that when I do leave, I will be doing the right thing.
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rainfalls

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the Hardest Thing It Feels You Will Ever Do!
Posted: 08-30-05 00:26am

Truly it is, I have been there. The father of my girls and I were together for about ten years. He was an alcoholic and abusive in every way. Besides the chaeting as well. I stuck around thikning maybe he would grow up a little as we were young, and also b/c I didnt want my girls growing up without a dad. My paresnt divrced as well when I was 10, and that was the last of my dad. But for me, watching the effect on my girls, and myself as well, it jsut finally got to a point where I was jsut done. I left and started over. It wasnt easy at all. You can see it in different ways with each kid and how it affects them, and it starts to ocme out more as things slowly hit bottom, whether it be attitude or grades, or not wanting to join anything extracurricular at school.
The tnesion in my home left, and peace became, and we are stil ltrying to heal from it, but its effects I see with my oldest specially, with her choices in b/f. You will know what to do and decided what is best for you, and you cant listen to anyone else really, b/c only you know best. Just way out options and etc... Couple suggestions:
make sure you are taking care of yourself, and not focusing on her.
Start focusing on you, what makes you happy.
Hanging with guys, odoing something with kids, palying poker one night, whatever it is.
I would suggest counseling for you and the kids as well, this will really make them feel better, it did with my girls.
Even letting the school counseleor know as well.
Maybe read some books or something about codependant realtionships, or join alanon, 12 steps helped me, and gave me new tools and skills for life. It isnt jsut for people with an alcoholic, it is for anyone in a dysfunctional realtionship.
Star t focusing on you, and dont get upset if you cant decided to lave or stay, that doesnt matter right now, put that in gods hands. The decision will come in its own time, and jsut plan on being happy with her right now, hapy with yourself. Sorry to go on an on, but this kind of stuff really gets me going.... I hope you had a good day and you feel better about things!
Life is truly too short to be unhappy.!
Maybe figure out what it is your scared of as well> like you msut be scared of something if you were to leave, and also why would you want yourself to stay being treated like that? These are some questions I asked myself.....
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bobbynz

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When And Not If.
Posted: 08-31-05 01:21am

I think I have come to realise that this is not a long term relationship. For three years we have been living away from my wife's family on the west coast and closer to mine, on the east coast. This in itself has caused its own issues. Last year she threatened to leave because of a dispute with my mother. During the incident she finally said that if living in the city where we are now doesn't work then she will go back home and leave me (and putting a deadline of another two years). I presumed this was because we were finding it difficult to settle into a new city and make new friends. Well in one year things have not changed and certainly not improved and here I am making excuses again.

The one thing that is holding me back about taking the job I mentioned is that its in hawaii and I would not get to see my kids that often. Probably a selfish motive really.

One other thing did you ever find that the abuse went in waves? One week was ok and then the next was hell?
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rainfalls

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Posted: 09-02-05 18:31pm

I do not think it is selfish to not want to move to hawaii b/c of your kids.
Kids need their father, and around. Believe me from not having one growing up, as well as my girls. (he is around, calls, but not really "there" for them emotionally) not selfish at all, life isnt about making more and more money, at least not in my opinion.

And yes, most abusive realtionships are all in waves, going from one day, to days, to weeks getting along, then weeks not. That is typical from what I have seen. That is an aspect that makes it hard to leave, it is like a false hope that the person will change and you will live happily ever after. So I am sure you probably think if I do this then maybe, or if I do this then maybe she will see type thing, and I hate to say it but no matter what you do or say it wont matter. She has to see this for herself.

It sucks I know I am only going on six months, and the first were hell. Now, I am so much happier, my kids are and life is looking so much better. But at times it was hard to see.

Yoe feel as if you would rather just die, then not be with them.
At least for me!
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bobbynz

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Things Are Pulling Together
Posted: 09-04-05 23:41pm

You know what I was never an abusive husband, not in emotion or physical. I was always there. I try to make the weekends ours (but my wife always wants to go somewhere - she hates it when we stay at home). I have never strayed - or even contemplated it. My only 'vice' is that I am quiet, but she knew that before we got married.

The job offer is not about making more money or even where it is. It is about having the first job offer in two years and moving from the dead-end job I am in now. The hardest part is that it will effectively remove me from my kids lives for a good portion of their growing up and I only get to see them for holidays. But you could always argue a small amount of quality time is better than a large amount of bad quantity time.

My question is, is that price worth the emotional abuse I receive? At this point I do not thinks so. I know kids survive, they're more resiliant than we think and they will probably grow up to be outstanding adults. And I think they will be happier and have more respect if the time they spent with me is quality, fulfilling and giving a different viewpoint to life than their mothers.
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