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Hida Scan; Gallbladder Posted: 09-07-05 11:23am


Hi: I am scheduled to have my gallbladder out on friday and I am suffering. One thing that happened to me that I don't see anyone else having had is during my hida scan my gallbladder didn't show up and they ended up giving me morphine to make it appear. The doctor told me that it fills too slowly? Does anyone else have this or have you heard of this? I have had all the tests and everything else is normal. The pain is constant around my belly button and it starts stabbing/shooting whenever I eat. I have been taking pain meds a lot this week and reading here about problems after the surgery. I am hoping that when they take the gb out that I won't continue to have pain. Thanks! Meg

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Hidascan Results Posted: 09-07-05 15:32pm


Hi meg, i had a similar situation last year. I had been having a lot of pain in my mid section, above belly button. It seemed to come in the evening, precipitated by what I ate - I guess. I had the ultra sound, ct scan, ercp and hide-a-scan. The first part of the the scan did not show my gal bladder at all. They thought it was because it was not functioning. So they had me sit in a room for an hour then when I went back in, they did something and, wha la, there it was. They, too, said it was because it just filled slow. Nothing was done because all my test were negative - you are in great shape - it's just that you have pain for some reason. Well the pain did subside for a year, now it is back in all its glory. I went to er with severe uppper abdominal pain. They did a ultra sound - no problem. Then a ct scan which showed cysts on my duct into the pancrease. Had a ercp yesterday and, guess what, no cysts! It was just the shape of my pancrease. Now I have to have another hide-a-scan friday. I know it will be normal. I am sure all my problems come from my gall bladder but none of the tests will confirm this. So I just continue to watch what I eat and see what causes the pain - then don't eat it again. Good luck with your surgery. Hopefully you will be pain free soon thereafter. I will continue to struggle with my situation. I just want a definite cause for pain and I want it resolved. Is that asking too much. Your hid-a- friend margie ps if anyone has any comments on my situation, feel free!!

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Re: Hidascan Results Posted: 09-22-05 20:37pm


I have been haveing pain in my upper stomach for about a year now and always feel sick no matter what I eat and very bad gas pain. I had many small stones in my gb. But all the tests show my gb is working and not inlarged. Had the tube put down my throat everything good. My doctor who is a surgern and a friend for over 20 years said all my problems are from the gb. He said gb cause all kind of strange problems. I ask him about the gb flush he laughed and said it does not work. So I had my gb out about 6 days ago. And I feel great. No more pain no more gas. At the hospital the night of the sugery I sat down with my doctor the surgern and 2 other surgerns and drilled then with questions for over a hour. I told then about how I read on the internet about all the people after gb surgery so many people get the runs. They all laughed and said that will not happen and it never happens to no one after gb removal. They explaned how we dont even use our gb anymore. They said 95% of the bile from the liver everyday does not even go into the gb it passes right down into the lower stomach helps food digest and most of that bile goes back up into the liver again and comes back down into the stomach again. Here is a site http://arbl.Cvmbs.Colostate.Edu/ hbooks/pathphys/digestion/liver/bile.Html< /a>

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Re: Hidascan Results Posted: 09-22-05 20:41pm


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Hida Test Tomorrow Posted: 10-17-05 10:05am


:? Definately nervous! When they took my blood for my first visit, that hurt! Plus it will be in the morning where I have to make my hubby get the kid up for school. Just keeping my fingers crossed. Ps my aunt is a nurse, who also had one and she notes that the dye will make your arm feel warm. You shouldn't feel sick after. I almost wish I hadnt gone to the dr though. I only getting stabbing pains every once in a while, for 2 seconds.

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Re: Hida Scan; Gallbladder
Posted: 10-18-05 18:57pm

bostongal wrote:

hi: I am scheduled to have my gallbladder out on friday and I am suffering. One thing that happened to me that I don't see anyone else having had is during my hida scan my gallbladder didn't show up and they ended up giving me morphine to make it appear. The doctor told me that it fills too slowly? Does anyone else have this or have you heard of this? I have had all the tests and everything else is normal. The pain is constant around my belly button and it starts stabbing/shooting whenever I eat. I have been taking pain meds a lot this week and reading here about problems after the surgery. I am hoping that when they take the gb out that I won't continue to have pain.

Thanks!

My doctor told me that if it does not show up that means it's really not working at all. I had mine out in august.

Meg

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Hida Scan/gallbladder Goodies Posted: 10-24-05 07:50am


Hi everyone, i have been violated in every gi way possible. Upper gi, endoscopy, colonoscopy, ultrasound, ct scan. Today is my hida scan. I hate to admit this, but I hope it shows my gallbladder is not functioning. I have had pain for years but it has gotten almost unbearable for the past three weeks or so. I don't really know what to expect today from the test but whatever it is, it will be worth it if I get some answers. I do not have a uterus, appendix, one tube or ovary so it can't be any of those. (though when my appendix was bad, it took five months to figure out.) living this way is difficult at best and I can't "fake it till I make it" anymore. My family is tired of mom being sick all the time and my husband owns his business and has had to pick up slack around here. Any support? I'm losing my mind!! :cry:

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Hida Scan / Gallbladder Goodies Posted: 10-24-05 11:04am


Hi guest, if it helps, I have had all of the same tests as you, just had third series of ultrasound & blood work and still nothing. Nausea, bloating r.U.Q. Pains. It has now been 5 years. Good luck.

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Posted: 01-21-06 06:14am


Oh my poor dear person, a normal hideascan test is absolutely meaningless!!! Five years ago after my first gall bladder attack, and 4 or 5 gall bladder attacks later and at least 4 hospitalizations with pancreatitis ( anbd if you think a gall bladder attack is pain - you have no idea what pain is!) I had my gall bladder taken out right after christmas, finally. But before my surgery, the surgeon ordered a hideascan. I was very adamant with him that I did not care what that ridiculous test showed, I was 100% sure that my gall bladder was bad, and had to be removed. I had every classic symptoms of a person with gall bladder disease. This supposedly very specific & "state of the art" test is meant to show how well your gall bladder is functioning - it is a disaster. In my case, it showed that my gal bladder was fine. The very next day I had my gall bladder removed (laparascopic thank heavens, just 4 holes instead of cutting me) what my surgeon found when he saw my gall bladder was essentially a rotting piece of meat. On the outside was massive inflammation, on the inside it had vile smelling liquid, and it had zero muscle tone, was as flaccid as a dead snake. One of the things this test supposedly measures is the gall bladder's muscle tone, showing how well the gall bladder can contract. It's called an "ejection fraction". In my case, I had a 96% ejection fraction, showing a very healthy gall bladder. In reality, it was a piece of rotting meat. :roll: if you have the symptoms of gall bladder disease - please do insist on having it removed. This test is meaningless and has cost me 5 years of agony as well as countless hospitalizations. I personally intend to sue the company that makes this test, because of what I have been through. If it wasn't for this ridiculous test i'd have had my gall bladder removed 5 years ago and been spared the misery & agony i've been through since then.

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Posted: 01-21-06 08:36am


"at the hospital the night of the sugery I sat down with my doctor the surgern and 2 other surgerns and drilled then with questions for over a hour. I told then about how I read on the internet about all the people after gb surgery so many people get the runs. They all laughed and said that will not happen and it never happens to no one after gb removal." that is not true. I had my gallbladder out on december 22 and am still getting some diarreha. According to my doctor, this should resolve itself within a month after surgery. But he said that in 1 out of 400 people, it does not resolve. Then they prescribe something to stop the diarreha.

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Posted: 01-31-06 11:14am


Iam also having abdominal pain my ultrasound came back fine so did my blood test. I am scheduled for a hydascan. I wonder if I can just tell my doctor to let me have the surgery done and avoid any other test needed. I havent been able to eat good at all only able to drink juices and soups. Its a terrible feeling.

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Posted: 01-31-06 22:48pm

anonymous wrote:

oh my poor dear person, a normal hideascan test is absolutely meaningless!!! Five years ago after my first gall bladder attack,
and 4 or 5 gall bladder attacks later and at least 4 hospitalizations with pancreatitis ( anbd if you think a gall bladder attack is pain - you have
no idea what pain is!)
I had my gall bladder taken out right after christmas, finally. But
before my surgery, the surgeon ordered a hideascan. I was very adamant with him that I did not care what that ridiculous test showed, I was 100% sure that my gall bladder was bad, and had to be removed. I had every classic symptoms of a person with gall bladder disease.

This supposedly very specific & "state of the art" test is meant to show how well your gall bladder is functioning - it is a disaster. In my case, it showed that my gal bladder was fine.
The very next day I had my gall bladder removed (laparascopic
thank heavens, just 4 holes instead of cutting me) what my surgeon found when he saw my gall bladder was essentially a rotting piece of meat. On the outside was massive inflammation, on the inside it had
vile smelling liquid, and it had zero muscle tone, was as flaccid as a
dead snake. One of the things this test supposedly measures is the
gall bladder's muscle tone, showing how well the gall bladder can
contract. It's called an "ejection fraction". In my case, I had a 96%
ejection fraction, showing a very healthy gall bladder. In reality, it
was a piece of rotting meat. :roll: if you have the symptoms of gall
bladder disease - please do insist on having it removed. This test
is meaningless and has cost me 5 years of agony as well as countless
hospitalizations. I personally intend to sue the company that makes
this test, because of what I have been through. If it wasn't for this ridiculous test i'd have had my gall bladder removed 5 years ago
and been spared the misery & agony i've been through
since then.

there must have been some kind of error in computer processing or interpreting the hida scan. No one is perfect. A rotten gallbladder will not have a 96% ejection fraction. A repeat of the proceedure would have been a good idea. Perhapse the surgeon was exagerating in his description of the gallbladder.
In any event, I would never advicate having any surgery based on your own interpretation of the symptoms. You were lucky.

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Re: Hida Scan; Gallbladder
Posted: 01-31-06 23:02pm

bostongal wrote:

the gallbladder not filling during the first part of the test, but filling after you are given morphine usually means...
1. Your gallbladder is sick. Or...
2. Your gallbladder is already filled with bile. This usually happens when someone has been fasting for a long time, (greater than 24 hr.) or has been too sick to eat much for several days.
You should only be fasting 4 to 8 hours for a hida scan. Definitely no more than 12 hours. Another alternative, if the ultrasound shows no stones, is to be given a dose of kinevac (cholecystokinine or cck) about one hour before the scan is started. This way if the gallbladder is capable of filling, it will, promptly.
One extra note! If you are given morphine, you cannot have a gallbladder ejection fraction done. The result will be useless.

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Gallbladder Posted: 08-06-07 20:07pm


Went to er and got admitted for 2 days, they ran all kinds of tests. Vomiting, diaherra, more vomiting, I was dehydrated. Finally went home, nothing wrong with GI traact upper or lower. Went to work for 3 days and got sick again, same thing went back to ER they did a CT scan....normal again. This time they gave me phangan suppostiories...they help me not to hurt as much. Today went to the doc and he said he wants to get a hidascan on me ASAP. They are running all kinds of blood work and stool samples etc today. Stool is nothing but water. Anyway 2 days no vomiting, I feel lucky. I actually ate real food today...hopefully it stays down. Thanks for listening.