Do you believe the virus for AIDS known as HIV has been isolated and scientifically identified?
Do you believe AIDS is really contagious?
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Do you believe AIDS only came into existence in the late 70's?
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Lewism
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Joined: 29 Nov 2003 Posts: 1 Location: Ongar, Essex UK
Hiv Posted: 11-29-03 19:02pm
I have been unable to trace the source of
discovery of hiv and there also seems to
be a lack of peer-reviewed confirmations
of such a discovery. Maybe you would be
so kind as to confirm the name of the lab
or scientist attributed with the
discovery.
Many thanks. Lewis montague
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neo_1978
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Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 50 Location: somewhere
Posted: 12-15-04 00:55am
Well,
i'll tackle the first one and then move
on, the transmission of hiv is quite
ineffective through sexual means, it is
however very easy to transmit via exchange
of bodily fluids i.E. Blood. "based on
studies measuring heterosexual and
homosexual transmission, transmission
depends on an average of 1000 heterosexual
contacts, and 100 to 500 homosexual
contacts with antibody-positive people."
these numbers would serve as proof that
sexual transmission is very unlikely
without the exchange of blood. Now with
all that said, the original question was:
is aids contagious, and well the answer is
simply no. Aids is a condition, and by
definition it is a syndrome that needs
only the presence of the hiv virus to
somehow warp many existing diseases into
"aids" so no this condition in itself is
not contagious.
As for the second poll question, no one
seems to have a firm hold on the true age
of hiv, all that is known is that
advancements in technology have made it
easier to find, such as the procedure that
was discovered by kary b. Mullis know as
polymerase chain reaction, which
identified an even larger section of the
population living with hiv, but in such
small amounts that antibodies were not
detected. So, one must ask the
question.......If so many people are found
to have hiv through new methods such as
the polymerase chain reaction, why then
havent new aids cases grown along with
those numbers?
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frozentear
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Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 27 Location: Illionis
Posted: 12-30-04 02:00am
I really do think that hiv came out late
in the 70's. I think that maybe it could
have been started with the experiments
that were being performed.
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Shannix
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 26 Location: Colorado
Posted: 05-02-05 02:57am
Frozentear,
i've read the theory that aid's was
developed as a bio weapon, and that
somehow it got out, as well as the theory
that they tested this on remote tribes in
africa, and that is how the monkeys got it
etc, and why it is a major problem over
there.
I also remember when hiv was a really big
thing, when they finally discovered it as
it were, and that they actually nailed it
down to one bi-sexual airline attendent
(male) who traveled internationally and
apparently had affairs with passangers on
the plane...Even knowing he had the
disease, and from there it spread.
And the origianlly it was a disease that
came from the monkeys in africa and the
tribes that ate those monkeys got it and
spread it from there.
To know more about these...Try putting
some key words in your search engine and
read up on it.
Peace
shannix
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Finess150
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Hiv/aids Posted: 05-25-05 03:45am
I think it's a little obtuse to suggest
that hiv cannot be transmitted during sex
without any blood. This is not the case.
Although the risk is around 0.3% per
episode of vaginal sex (and much higher
for anal sex), semen and vaginal fluids
can infect through the mucous membranes,
namely the vagina and the urethra.
It is noted that the first case which can
reliably be attributed to hiv/aids occured
in the late 1950s. I strongly doubt there
is any kind of conspiracy involved here,
it is simply a virus which has evolved
like any other. It may have developed
from the simian (monkey) equivalent of
this virus. There is another theory that
it arrived on a meteor. But I find this
unlikely since if the virus cannot live
for more than a minute or so outside the
body, I doubt it would make the trip.
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Good Advise
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 105
I 2nd! Posted: 05-26-05 16:16pm
I agree with fitness. You will head into
a downward spiral if you think that hiv
cannot be transfered from sexual fluids.
It's not good to push information unless
you know what you are talking about.
I have also read many theories about the
origin of hiv and conducted a research
paper on this topic back when I was in
school. The epidemic, as it should be
classified, does not have conclusive
information on what created the virus or
the spread of the virus.
However, we know that it is a virus.
Personally, I believe that the virus
became active in the 60's. It manifested
in the 70's and so on. You may think
something else! At this point in time,
we are both correct, for the origin
doesn't really matter nor is it my
motivation. The conclusion of hiv...Now
that's the goal and something to talk
about!
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Finess150
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Hiv Posted: 05-26-05 21:33pm
Since the this is the first hiv epidemic,
it is medically classified as a pandemic.
The increase of hiv cases occured
throughout the 1970s and was properly
identified at the end of that decade.
Since anal sex is the most efficient route
of transmission, many gay men were
observed to have the disease and many
believed it therefore to be a gay man's
disease - some mystery virus that targeted
the homosexual community. This did not
help the war against homophobia for
obvious reasons. Since then, happily, it
has been acknowledged that it is not a
disease exclusively suffered by gay men,
not by any means, but a widespread and
worldwide problem for anyone putting
themselves at risk.
What I find sad is that while knowledge
of the virus grows, so too do the number
of people being infected by it. Education
about hiv is currently the best way to
prevent its spreading, but the message
seems to have gotten lost.
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terryd
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Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 36 Location: NYC
Posted: 05-08-06 23:10pm
The whole aids industry is based on
deception. Lets out it that way.
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HIVRHH
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Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 82
Posted: 05-09-06 01:17am
terryd
wrote:
the whole aids industry is
based on deception. Lets out it that
way.
it is, is it? What do you base your
science on? Are you living with hiv or
aids? If not, I guess you don't know what
you're talking about.
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terryd
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Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 36 Location: NYC
Posted: 05-09-06 10:53am
Yes I am. Why are you being shady???
:roll: do some research into the subject.
Try; google
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HIVRHH
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Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 82
Posted: 05-09-06 15:57pm
Just post your scientific facts. Link
your comments to the facts. That's not
being shady in the least. I've been
positive for 21 years and work in the
medical field. I want to deal in facts
and not someone's hear say.
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terryd
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Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 36 Location: NYC
Posted: 05-09-06 18:50pm
Its my opion and I dont need to prrove
anything. You dont agree so move on .
Its simple. :d
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Finess150
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Facts Posted: 05-10-06 13:43pm
The problem is, terry, this is a forum
visited by people who are looking for
answers. Some of them are anxious people
who believe they may have had a risk, and
are looing for facts. That is why we need
facts as much as can be proven. Opinions
are not a safe thing when it comes to
dispensing medical advise. You may not
think you are posting advice per se, but
people who come here may very well read it
that way.
Basically, its not a forum where one
should discuss hiv issues freely amongst
peers - there are vulnerable people ready
to take any and all points on board.
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mitch7654
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Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 170
Posted: 05-10-06 13:47pm
So what you guys is saying is tha if I
would to have had sex say 4 times with a
person with hiv its not likely I caught
somethign?
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Finess150
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Hiv Posted: 05-10-06 17:30pm
The message is pretty clear - unprotected
sex with someone who is hiv+ is a high
risk activity. If you don't believe this,
go to africa, where you will see many,
many heterosexual males infected by not
using condoms.
Sure, you might not be infected the first
time, the eighth time or the twentieth
time. But carry on playing that game and
you won't be lucky forever.
Scientifically speaking, it is easier for
a female to become infected than a male,
but this is academic - unprotected sex
with a person of unknown status puts you
at risk, male or female. I know and often
speak to people who have become infected
with hiv from anal and vaginal sex. It
happens. It happens everyday. No, it
doesn't happen everytime, but it could
just as easily happen the first time as
the thirtieth - do you see?
Just use condoms.
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terryd
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Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 36 Location: NYC
Re: Facts Posted: 05-10-06 17:42pm
[quote="finess150"]the problem is, terry,
this is a forum visited by people who are
looking for answers. Some of them are
anxious people who believe they may have
had a risk, and are looing for facts.
That is why we need facts as much as can
be proven. Quote]
nobody should rely on web forums for
"facts" they should have a very skepitcal
view of "all" posts. Just becuase one
disagrees with anothers perspective does
not make it wrong or not valid. I just
think there needs to be a balance when it
comes the hiv aids issue and all sides
need to be heard and then cross referanced
by each individual. Its called taking
personal responsibilty.
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Finess150
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Ok Posted: 05-11-06 06:25am
You're quite right terry, they shouldn't
rely on forums for facts. But
nevertheless, they do.
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terryd
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Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 36 Location: NYC
Posted: 05-24-06 17:11pm
Yes and there are many who post on these
forums who actually work for drug firms
and are pretending to be aids advocates or
hiv poster people. Always cross referance
all info to get a balanced perspective.
8)
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Webtech
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Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Ma
Re: Hiv Posted: 07-16-06 13:56pm
lewism
wrote:
i have been unable to trace
the source of discovery of hiv and there
also seems to be a lack of peer-reviewed
confirmations of such a discovery.
Maybe you would be so kind as to confirm
the name of the lab or scientist
attributed with the discovery.
Many thanks. Lewis
montague
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