Early Pregnancy Signs and Symptoms Forum - Pregnant---no Uterus--10.6 Weeks
Medical questions     Health forums     MarketPlace    

Pregnant---no Uterus--10.6 Weeks

New Topic  This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.  Ask A Doctor - Offline
Medical Questions-> Health Forums -> Early Pregnancy Signs and Symptoms -> Pregnant---no Uterus--10.6 Weeks
Medical Questions
Author Message
ssparklers26

Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 76
Worried
Posted: 02-25-06 03:02am

I know you truly believe this mass inside of you is a baby and you know that some of us here don't believe the same. If you could just for a moment hear me out. What if that mass inside of you isn't a baby what if it's something more serious, or the beginnings of something more serious? You are so intent on it being a baby that you can see no other option as a possibility. And why won't you let them test you for cushings disease? If they're wrong they're wrong but what if they're right? Being pregnant is not as painful as you are describing. I have had three children, complications with two including bed rest and numerous tests and problems. Yes there were aches and pains. But nothing I would describe as excrutiating aside from the labor. I'm a very small woman and had a lot of growing to do for my babies and still nothing like the pain you're describing. If it ends up you are pregnant then I will be happy for you but I worry that you are unwilling to allow them to test you for and are unwilling to consider that anythig else might be wrong. Your health should a high priority, what if you are pregnant and there is something else going on. Wouldn't you want to know?

I still agree with the dr's that you aren't pregnant and i'm sorry if that hurts your feelings I only hope that you see all the specialists and take all the tests you can until you find what the real source of your pain is.

Best wishes truly.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA
Re: Worried
Posted: 02-25-06 03:44am

ssparklers26 wrote:
i know you truly believe this mass inside of you is a baby and you know that some of us here don't believe the same. If you could just for a moment hear me out. What if that mass inside of you isn't a baby what if it's something more serious, or the beginnings of something more serious? You are so intent on it being a baby that you can see no other option as a possibility. And why won't you let them test you for cushings disease? If they're wrong they're wrong but what if they're right? Being pregnant is not as painful as you are describing. I have had three children, complications with two including bed rest and numerous tests and problems. Yes there were aches and pains. But nothing I would describe as excrutiating aside from the labor. I'm a very small woman and had a lot of growing to do for my babies and still nothing like the pain you're describing. If it ends up you are pregnant then I will be happy for you but I worry that you are unwilling to allow them to test you for and are unwilling to consider that anythig else might be wrong. Your health should a high priority, what if you are pregnant and there is something else going on. Wouldn't you want to know?



I still agree with the dr's that you aren't pregnant and i'm sorry if that hurts your feelings I only hope that you see all the specialists and take all the tests you can until you find what the real source of your pain is.



Best wishes truly.


i have been tested for all kinds of stuff. And read up on abdominal pregnancy--it is painful. And it is nothing like regular pregnancy. I have been pregnant 10 different times, so I know what it is to be pregnant.


I am not offended by your response, but I have explored other options, and like I say--everything comes back excellant. Even things that were bad before this pregnancy.


I have been in horrible pain, and cant even sit up straight anywhere. I cant drive, or sit in dr office and I have been down there 10 times since dec 28th. For nothing. So I leave it in .God's hands ---period.


I was also tested for cortisol--negative, so they wanna do 24 hours to check again. I don like to keep pee in my fridge--and they did the quick test for it. I just dont see the point--if they dont wanna help me find this baby--i have no more time for them.
|
Clambake

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: 02-28-06 12:46pm

I hope you are able to get the help you so desperately need in dealing with the fact that you had a hysterectomy and can no longer bear children.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 02-28-06 12:56pm

|
Sammy001

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jun 2005
Posts: 711
Location: ,

Posted: 02-28-06 12:59pm

You must be 36 + weeks by now...Do you have any new pics?
|
Clambake

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: 02-28-06 13:36pm

Look, if you are so far along, people don't want to see proof of other's adominal pregnancy, they want to see proof of yours.

At your stage, the babies should have been found. No ultrasound is going to miss 4-5lb twins in your abdomen. The links you gave to other stories at your point of pregnancy said that the doctors missed the fact that the pregnancy was not interuterine not that the women were not pregnant altogether. The babies showed up on the ultrasound and the mother had a positive hgc.

All of your *pregnancy* symptoms are created by your intense desire to be pregnant even though you are not. You need psychological help to help you deal with your infertility.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 02-28-06 14:08pm

This did not come from an intense desire to have a baby. I did not ask for this---when .God told me .He would do this for me--i had a baby--and my tubes were tied. Wasnt wanting a baby anytime in the near future. I have never asked for it, never been on my knees begging for it. And I have not sit around obsessing about having a baby. I had a .Promise

.God told me 18 years ago this past june--i would have a miracle baby---.He reminded me again in a dream this last june. (exactly 18 years later--to the month) I ovulated the beginning of july.(i know when I ovulate and have noticed for over 10 years--the "middle pains") I am now 35.3 weeks pregnant. And for whatever reason .God has, I have not received medical confirmation yet. i do not need confirmation from man anyway--i have confirmation from .God. man is fallible--.God is not!!


But I have proof for myself. Like...The first u/sound I was in "luteal phase" of my cycle. And this was 5 weeks after ovulation---although .Dr's did not recognize it as such. In the abdominal u/sound at 27 weeks---i seen a little heart beating---although the tech did not see it---and it is not in any of the pictures. In the pelvic u/sound ---i did not look like that at all in the 5 weeks past gestation pics, although the dr's never even compared the 2 after repeated attempts to get him to at least look at the other u/sound. I see all kinds of white matter in my abdominal and pelvic u/sound--i even see what looks like a umbilical cord in a lot of the images. My bladder appears squashed. My ovary looks like it is squashed. And last but not least---i have at least 15 abdominal xrays. In them I appear exactly the same ---in this new xray--on one side I see a big shadow with the form of a baby. On the other side I see what looks like a leg---even asked the .Dr about it, ( he says--yeah that is interesting--looks like same material as my ribs) then a big smudge like when taking a picture and someone moves--it smudges the image. It is smudged on that whole side. And then me and hubby came home and looked at my other images(xrays) and it is not even the same at all. Just like the 5 weeks u/sound and the 28 weeks u/sound. Not even looking like me at all. Totally different. So you explain all of this.????? You can't. My story holds a lot more water than the false pregnancy story. I have sought out alternatives to make sure I am correct and none of them fit me at all. And why would I imagine intense pains and discomfort.


And the first page is about abdominal pregnancy after hysterectomy---while you say I cant. Second is proof in the pictures of something in my body--first up by my rib--at 10.5 weeks--and then in the center of my abdomen 5 minutes later. That is proof. Look at second link again. That isnt cushing's disease. It moved---proof in the images.


And I dont have to prove anything---.God will do the proving when the time comes. You have a right to not believe, but dont say it is not possible--cuz it sure is possible and has happened before. As the first link states.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 02-28-06 14:18pm

sammy001 wrote:
you must be 36 + weeks by now...Do you have any new pics?


no, hun--i havent taken more pictures but I will, and add them soon. I am 35.3 weeks now.
|
Clambake

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: 02-28-06 15:55pm

I explain all of that by first asking you how are you qualified to interpret the ultrasound images? Do you have any sonographic training? If not, then how can you really know what you are looking at in terms of organs and their conditions? You can see anything you want to see if you stare at something long enough.

I had an ultrasound at nearly 6 weeks. You could see the obvious outline of gestational sac and just barely the fetal pole. In the weeks to come, the fetus became very obvious. At 12 weeks, it was larger, however still not large enough to even go flying around my uterus let alone around an abdomen as you claim to have seen at 10 weeks. By 20 weeks, it would no longer fit on one screen and there was nothing to interpret about it. It was a fetus. You could see clearly the skull, spinal cord, the heart beating in its chest. It wasn't some smudges or squished up organs. Even in the ultrasound pics of the late term abdominal pregnancies you have on your site have extremely clear pictures of an obvious fetus. The fact that your supposed pregnancy is abdominal can't explain the fact that the ultrasound can't pick it up. It is obvious that it can if it was there this late in the game. Twins would be even more difficult to conceal. Add to this that there is no positive hgc test. Two placentas should be producing more than enough of this hormone to be picked up by now. Contrary to what you may believe, your story holds extremely little water in the light of these facts.

The pains and discomfort are either a) completely psychosomatic because you want to believe that you are pregnant so bad or b) from a non-pregnancy related disorder. The very fact that you refuse to believe the doctors when they tell you you are not pregnant and show you evidence of that is what makes true pseudocyesis the likely case. The other point that you claim to hear god speaking to you and that he has chosen you to do something for him does not do anything to bolster your case that you are not suffering from somekind of psychological disorder.

The pictures that you have shown of whatever this is you have claimed moved, I really don't see it. You could have wobbled around your belly for all I know yourself. In addition, I don't really see any difference in your pregnancy pictures in general.

If you really had nothing to prove then you would not have created a website devoted to this fantasy of yours or spend your time on this forum trying to convince others of it. I really think all of this comes from your inability to deal with the fact that you had a hysterectomy that brought an end to your fertility. Instead of properly mourning it and moving on, you created a fantasy world in which god supposedly talked to you and told you he would work a fertility miracle for you. You really need some serious psychological evaluation. I am not saying that to be mean. I am just calling it like I see it.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 02-28-06 17:21pm

Think what you want---but I know my .God promised me something and .He is faithful and just to perform that which .He has spoken. ".Be it unto me as thou hast spoken, not my will but thine be done"

i am not a radiologist---but I know what I see---and I have research it, and constantly compared it to my other images. I have like 100 films of myself for the last 5 years. I have them in my posession---

as far as the luteal phase I seen this on the internet, on my daughters u/sound. And I look more pregnant than she did. And she had 2 baby's in there one on her ovary--one in her uterus. Dr's missed the one in her uterus and killed it by killing the ovarian pregnancy. I have also seen women as far along as I was in my u/sound image that looked just like what I had on my ovary at 5 weeks gestation--and they called theirs a baby--but mine wasnt???? It is a man's interpretation. And you can go in for the same test 10 times and get 10 different opinions. They are wrong most of the time---schooled or not. That is why I now have damage to my heart--cuz they failed. This is why my nerves in my whole body are messed up--from a multiple injury back condition--because they failed. This is why my son will never see his little baby--or baby's--until heaven--cuz they failed. Dont tell me about their knowledge it is nothing to me. I have the wisdom from .God---which means nothing to you, maybe---but to me it is all there is---books with vast knowledge or no books with knowledge. .God and .His wisdom is all I need.



Quote:
if you really had nothing to prove then you would not have created a website devoted to this fantasy of yours or spend your time on this forum trying to convince others of it. I really think all of this comes from your inability to deal with the fact that you had a hysterectomy that brought an end to your fertility. Instead of properly mourning it and moving on, you created a fantasy world in which god supposedly talked to you and told you he would work a fertility miracle for you. You really need some serious psychological evaluation. I am not saying that to be mean. I am just calling it like I see it.


i made a website because this is a medical anomally at the least. It will all be documented one day---but until then, I want to share--if that is okay with you. ""yeah, I held onto this false hope for 18 years--living a depressed and unable to cope existance for 18 years because I lost my uterus---.N.O"" I was 25(when I lost my uterus) and believe me I have had much better things to do. .He told me--.He was giving me this gift. I didnt sit around --cry and grovel for 18 years--begging for something I cant have. I had my tubes tied 20 years ago.

That dont even make sense--think about what you are saying.


And .God does speak to me--and would speak to anyone---if they would just listen. I listened and believed. That is all--that is it. ".God said it I believed it, period"


Last edited by fatfamily02 on 03-01-06 01:34am; edited 1 time in total
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 03-01-06 01:35am

ssparklers26 wrote:
just a link some of you might find interesting.

Http:// www..Com/p/articles/mi_m0689/is_n5_v30/ai_ 9147671


link dont work--what's it about.??
|
Clambake

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: 03-01-06 05:24am

Quote:
and you can go in for the same test 10 times and get 10 different opinions. They are wrong most of the time---schooled or not.


if doctors were wrong the vast majority of the time, no one would bother to go. You have to admit that if 10 different doctors tell you you are not pregnant, then any sane person has to admit there has to be something to that. The fact that you cannot accept any reasonable form of evidence that the doctors provide for you that you are not pregnant very much suggests that you are in a deep form of denial. The doctors have been more than patient with you, I would say. They have looked you over for this pregnancy mostly as you have suggested and they cannot find it. At 35 weeks, the fetuses can't hide even from the most incompetent of doctors or sonographers. They would just be far too big.

You can keep telling me until you are blue in the face that you never cared about wanting another child or have completely gotten over your hysterectomy, however your behavior on this forum points daftly in the other direction. The fact that god supposedly told you around the time that you got the hysterecotomy that you were going to have another child and you believed that strongly puts a nail in the coffin of your claim to have properly dealt with it. The fact is that you have never properly dealt with this, rather lived in a world of denial waiting for the day god would fufill his promise of another pregnancy to you. When that never happened, you eventually just invented one. Problem is that you believe your own pregnancy fantasy so much that your body is reacting to it by creating fake pregnancy symptoms which add more fuel to the denial fire.

You can post all the proof of abdominal pregnancy you want. None of what you posted makes what you are saying any more plausible. As other people have pointed out, the doctors in these cases totally aknowledged the fact that there was a pregnancy, they had just misplaced where it was in the body. You have yet to show a case that proves your particular situation can happen, that the doctors could just totally miss a late term abdominal pregnancy and that a positive hcg never was obtained.

As for what happened to your daughter, in cases of ectopic pregnancy a pseduogestational sac can form in the uterus. It may have never been a viable pregnancy. You cannot compare your ultrasound pictures to her's or anyone elses' without the proper training on how to interpret them. I am sure a lot of cysts probably do look like gestational sacs. I could not tell you because I have no idea how to interpret an ultrasound. All I can tell you is I know when I see a fetus when I see it. It is unmistakeable, even to the untrained eye. At this point, what you saw at 5 weeks is no longer relevant. 30 weeks later, there should be an obvious baby looking mass in your picture.

I know you keep saying that you don't care what doctor's think and that they are fallible, but the fact remains that you spend a lot of your time obviously looking for validation from the medical community of your situation. You have gone to many different doctors. You have googled about all there is to be googled about what you believe to be your case. You come on this forum hoping to hear from others in the same situation. Doesn't seem to compute with you not caring what others think. You obviously do.

You are man. You are fallible. What makes you believe that god really spoke to you? It could have all been in your head.
|
fatfamily02

Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
Posts: 3050
Location: Georgia, USA

Posted: 03-01-06 11:26am

First--you cannot tell me whether .God spoke to me or not---how arrogant of you. I heard the voice of .God.

And my daughter in law was pregnant they found the baby in the sac 3 days after they said there was no baby---3 days after they administered methotrexate to kill the abdominal pregnancy. So...How arrogant again of you. I dont speak untruths. My son lost 2 baby's that day. He will not see until he gets to heaven.

I am not a stupid person---and I have proof and evidence of my baby. Beside the fact it moves all the time. I have proof in all their suppossed negative results-- I dont care what the .Dr's say, they have failed me every turn, so dont try and tell me they are perfect.

Talkin to the hand--
|
Clambake

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 40

Posted: 03-02-06 03:56am

I never told you that god never spoke to you. I am just following your logic about the situation. If you don't believe the doctors know what they are talking about because they are men and fallible, how do you know as a fallible man yourself that you really know what you are talking about when you say god spoke to you? Just a simple question.

I never told you your daughter-in-law never had a viable interuterine pregnancy. I said that it was a possiblity it wasn't because ectopic pregnancies occasionally create pseduogestational sacs in the uterus and that could have been what the doctors saw. That is too bad about the viable pregnancy, but I am sure there were no other options even if they had known. Ectopic pregnancies are extremely dangerous. It is the leading cause of death in the first trimester. Http://www.Emedicine .Com/emerg/topic478.Htm . Not only that, there is also the possiblity of the loss of future fertility from the ruptured tubes or organs. Infection can set in, etc.

I never said the doctors were perfect, I just said that any reasonable person would have accepted by now the possiblity that all of this was in their heads given the lack of evidence from a diverse number of doctors. The only evidence you have the pregnancy is what your mind could have made up for you. Sorry, but it just isn't good enough evidence for the rest of us.

Like other people, i'd love to know what your plans are if your due date comes and goes with no babies. Will you c-section yourself to try and find them? Will you claim they died? Will you steal pics of twins from other sites and try to pass them off as your own? Will you kidnap twins or kill a pregnant woman with twins and try to pass them off as your own? Don't laugh. You really do seem that crazy to the rest of us if you are for real.

As for talk to the hand, aren't you a just a little too old to be saying such immature things? You are what, 44-46?
|
strange

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Mar 2006
Posts: 1
Interesting
Posted: 03-15-06 15:54pm

Interesting that all your links for articles that "proove" your case refer to ectopic pregnacies. Ectopic pregnancies would not result in a live birth. Find some new proof.
|
Rodge

Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Feb 2006
Posts: 905
Location: , England, UK
Thanks: 1
Thanked:0

Posted: 03-15-06 18:04pm

Fatfamily, I was unbelievably glad to see that you were the topic starter, and how old this post is. For a moment there I thought there were two of you, and my heart just stopped.


Last edited by Rodge on 03-31-06 18:16pm; edited 1 time in total
|
KITTYSAYS

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 3

Posted: 03-30-06 14:36pm

So I am curious about what will be happening on april 1. With no uterus how will the baby be delivered? Will you go to the hospital and request a c section?
|
QueenBee2_3

Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 194
Location: CT U.S.

Posted: 03-30-06 15:15pm

kittysays wrote:
so I am curious about what will be happening on april 1. With no uterus how will the baby be delivered? Will you go to the hospital and request a c section?


.Without a uterus, she won't go into labor so it's all about "knowing" when the right time to go will be. I'm thinking she's going to have to go to an er where they don't know her so that when she says she's in labor, they won't turn her away.
|
wanna1more

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Mar 2006
Posts: 2
Please Go to the Er Right Away
Posted: 03-30-06 23:37pm

Abdominal pregnancy is rare, but it does happen and the resulting infants can be born healthy and full term. This is going to sound worse than I mean it but think of an embryo as a parasite. The developing embryo will attach itself to any organ that has a healthy blood supply, even if it's at the cost of that organ. The main objective of the embryo is to grow, the placenta will create whatever network of veins it has to to accomplish this task. If you live in a small town, it is possible that your doctors have not heard of, or seen this condition. Also, if you immediately go into the office and speak of god's intervention in your pregnancy, you're likely to be dismissed as being a bit fruity when you could possibly have a very real medical condition that is being overlooked.

I saw the x-ray and I have to say, it's compelling enough to insist on an ultrasound series. Please go to the er, do not bring up god (god and medicine sometimes don't mix) and let them take a look at you.

Good luck and please update.
Laura
|
phatmonky

New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Mar 2006
Posts: 2

Posted: 03-31-06 12:15pm

What if your womb is just full of spiders!?!

Your life could be in danger! :(
|
Related Topics
This Forum This Category All Forums
Jump to:  
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
New Topic   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
Medical Questions -> Health Forums -> Early Pregnancy Signs and Symptoms -> Pregnant---no Uterus--10.6 Weeks



Page 4 of 8
We comply with the HONcode standard for trustworthy health
information:
verify here.