can people share there experiences with
kegel exercise.. Good or bad?
I have read lot of great things about
these exercise but heard there are some
side effects too.
Thanks,
andy
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cd998776
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Posted: 09-17-05 10:20am
Yes, there are good and bad things about
the exercise.
The positives:
1. Can help to control your orgasm and
erection.
2. Can allow you to orgasm without
ejaculating, allowing to keep going
longer, and often not lose your
erection.
3. Helps to create stronger erections,
and more powerful orgasms.
The negatives:
1. It will take a long time to achieve
the results you want (but it won't take
very long to notice that the results are
starting).
2. You have to make sure it is only the
pc muscle you are contracting, and nothing
else, or you will not make any gains from
the exercises.
3. A pc muscle that becomes to strong
will make it difficult to urinate.
Hope this helps!
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Miss_KellieAnne
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Posted: 09-17-05 10:23am
Hmmmm sounds lethal for a girl lol
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Andy2001
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Posted: 09-18-05 00:09am
Thanks for the reply!
Can you pls tell me why wud stronger pc
muscle make it difficult to urinate.. It
should actually help to have better
urinary control, I guess?
Thanks again,
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cd998776
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Posted: 09-18-05 19:11pm
It's hard to explain. People who have a
hard time controling their bladder, are
able to gain the control they need by
doing kegels. Well if you over do the
exercises, the effects continue, making it
more difficult to release the urine as the
muscle becomes stronger. Does that make
sense? Like I said it's a little
difficult to describe. I know I read
about it somewhere, i'll see if I can find
the link. I wouldn't worry about it to
much, it would probably take a lot of
exercising of the pc to see that problem.
The average person will just see the
positive results. Just don't over do it
and you'll be fine. I'd say keep it to
under 750 kegels a day or so.
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Andy2001
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Posted: 09-20-05 00:35am
Thanks, you really know a lot!!
There is a long way to go before 750.
What really made me scare about these
exercises was this site below
this guy tend to discourage by saying it
causes prmature ejacuation (this is
totally opposite to what I have read in
all other places).
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Andy2001
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Posted: 09-20-05 23:46pm
Cd,
you da man.. Can you tell me if this guy
is just plain crazy.. Want to be very
sure before messing with my lifeline.
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cd998776
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Posted: 09-21-05 13:32pm
Like I said before, as lony as you use it
(to your advantage) and don't abuse it,
you'll be fine. Kegels are usually done
for a couple of reasons:
-learn to have more powerful orgasms
-a strong pc muscle, when used correctly,
and contracting the muscle just before
orgasm/ejaculation, for the duration of
the orgasm, one the muscle is strong, will
allow you to orgasm without ejaculating;
lessening your recovery period.
-for people who have poor bladder control
to help gain better control.
-help to create stronger erections.
You'll see a number of people around here
that suggest "actionlove" as not being the
place you want to go to get your
information. Within common errors and
misspelled words, I would questions much
of the advice that is provided there.
While a few things on their site are true,
most of it has no evidence. This ( http://www.Actionlo
ve.Com/cases/case9748.Htm ) is one I
personally don't beleive. Just remember
what I mentioned before (especially the
part of makiing sure it's only the pc
muscle your contracting) and you'll be
fine. Good luck with those kegels! :d
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Andy2001
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Posted: 09-22-05 21:56pm
Thanks! Thanks!! Thanks!!!
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cd998776
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Posted: 09-23-05 11:28am
andy2001
wrote:
thanks! Thanks!!
Thanks!!!
anytime...
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learn4life
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Posted: 09-24-05 09:10am
Kegel exercises is only needed if you find
it difficult to ejaculate.
As what the pc muscle flex does is, it
builds that muscle and can cause
prostate enlargement in my expereince if
you have sufficent testostorone.
It also helps trap the dht converted from
testostorone in there which you do not
want as it cause p.E and limits the dht
being built up in the
penile tissues which you require to
balloon your penis.
I do not suggest anyone to do these pc
muscle exercises from my own experience
but if you have trouble ejaculating then
go for it.
For ejaculation control try contracting
the tailbone muscle when near ejaculating.
This isnt just good for your sexual
health but also your health as a whole.
Hope this helps.
"if you think education is expensive, you
should try ignorance"
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cd998776
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Posted: 09-24-05 22:07pm
learn4life
wrote:
kegel exercises is only
needed if you find it difficult to
ejaculate.
Can anybody share some personal
experiences.. Somebody who tried and had
good or bad results?
Thanks!!
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learn4life
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Posted: 09-25-05 04:26am
andy2001
wrote:
i am confused.
Can anybody share some personal
experiences.. Somebody who tried and had
good or bad results?
Thanks!!
hi andy,
well it depends on yourself. Do you find
it difficult to ejaculate?
From my experience from doing pc muscle
exercises it has caused me
prostate enlargement in the past,
premature ejaculation and precum
flooding.
However I did do about 200 reps, three
times a day but the fact is that when
building any muscle in the body and
especially the pc muscle
it will build in size and cause dht to be
trapped there.
Pc (kegel) exercises can accelerate orgasm
for men and women, that causes premature
ejaculation for men! Why? Pc exercises
generally stimulates the prostate itself
to release oxytocin which, in turn, burns
testosterone into dht in the tissue of the
prostate, bulbourethral glands and in the
pc (perineum) muscles, and then, more
dht will be trapped down there for
over-stimulation of the prostate and
bulbourethral glands, particularly due to
the fact that the perineum blood
circulation is poor.
Excessive oxytocin will induce
prostaglandin e-2 synthesis locally and
then tickle your urethra, prostate and
seminal vesicles for assisting erection
(good! You ask for it!), expansion (not
good for the prostate and seminal vesicles
due to a jump of ejaculation urgency and
pressure leading to prostate and perineum
pains) and, of course, semen emission
(unwanted semen leakage during sexual
arousal, leading to premature ejaculation,
bad!)
generally, the pc exercises train the
prostate, bulbourethral glands and pc
muscles to automatically contract the
prostate for ejaculation, seminal leakage,
or orgasm in response to sexual
stimulation, in conjunction with the
stimulation of the trapped dht on the
bulbourethral (cowper's) glands (mainly,
the sympathetic nervous circuits from l1
and l2) for discharging or releasing
excessive precum (pre-ejaculation fluid).
(this is what I experienced after doing pc
muscle flexs but it took 1-2 years to
notice the side effects from it!!)
precum contains a lot of prostaglandin e-1
and e-2, where the prostaglandin e-1 helps
erection but prostaglandin e-2 triggers
(rippens) the prostate seminal emission
control (also from the same l1 and l2
nervous circuits) for seminal
emission/ejaculation or leakage. When
your prostate emission control valve is
ripened by the precum or blasted (damaged)
by a chronic poor-quality ejaculation
jet, you will become a minute or second
man or a semen-leaking man.
Why men try the pc exercises? Due to
weak erection! Pc (kegel) exercises are
only good for women to exercise the
vaginal muscles.
In addition, if pc/prostate exercises
give you pain, you are in trouble with
excessive prostaglandin e-2 synthesis in
the prostate and bulbourethral glands for
premature ejaculation and precum flooding!
Solutions for your problems: power
erection, boost the prostaglandin e-1
synthesis (but reduce prostaglandin e-2)
and fix venous leakage for sexual orgasm -
repair the penile damage due to
masturbation, jelqing, and a woman's wild
ride; and de-train the intuitively nervous
reflexion and contraction in the prostate,
bulbourethral glands and pc muscles for
solving premature ejaculation .
Take daily
3000mg fish oil
3000mg borage oil
1500mg l-arginine
this will boost your prostaglandin e1
synthesis which keeps your erection
harder, longer and giving you much longer
lasting power.
I do not understand why any man would want
to trap their dht in their pc muscle
rather than binding it into the penile
tissues to grow the penis
rather than the pc muscle. This is how
boys in their puberty grow their penises
due to the high testostorone burning into
dht to the penile tissues which causes
spontaneous erections day and night.
Again I only go from my expereince when I
was aged 11-16 which produced the problems
above.
Andy if you have some spare time, try read
these links instead
as it will change your love/sex life
forever:
he said 'i've been experimenting with your
anal breathing techniques and kegels as
well. When I do kegels I do ejaculate
quicker. When I do anal breathing that
doesn't happen.' for prolonging sex and
more sexual orgasm.
Http://www.Actionl
ove.Com/cases/case13283.Htm
he said 'i have been practising your anal
breathing method and I can now control
when I come I lasted last nite for 50mins
and my girl had multiple orgasms she loves
it'; sexual kungfu and anal breathing is
the way to enjoy multiple sexual orgasms.
Http://www.Actionl
ove.Com/cases/case13229.Htm
he said ' after almost 2 months on your
products, i've realized that I no longer
have constant chronic fatigue! I started
to notice that about 3 weeks into taking
vial-pal-hgh-j...... The scar tissue in
my penis doesn't feel as hard and bulky as
it was a month ago. I'm doing at least
four 30 minute vip heat massages a day.'
for restoration of sexual orgasm.
Http://www.Actionl
ove.Com/cases/case12491.Htm
again to everyone who is reading this,
Dr.Lin has helped me to recover from over
masturbation and ejaculation since age
11(twice a day, every day till aged age
17.
Penile damage by penile stretching, penile
bending, penile grip and squeeze, hanging
8kg weights on penis, tying 3-5 plastic
bands extremely tightly around the penile
base,
over practicing pc muscle clenches which
caused penile precum leakage constantly,
overdrinking to the extent of passing out
lots and lots of times and smoking hash.
This has caused low energy levels, low sex
drive levels, pains in the liver, kidney,
stomach area, testicles, pc muscle, lower
back, neck, and over the penis from the
root to the head.
It has turned semen into water like liquid
and only little amount. Had to limit
ejaculation to once a week but still
experienced after ejaculation headaches
and cramps. After the ejaculation I would
have to sleep at least 10 hours to lessen
the headaches.
The worst part is the penile scars known
as peyronies disease causing little to no
erection, if there was one then it would
hold up for maybe a minute. Penis turned
to leather like material and bends over
the penis. I could feel a breakage at the
left cylinder of the penis and still do.
Iam still recovering day as it a long
rejuvenation process as in my case it was
quite severe so it takes a good 12 months
at least for repair of the whole body.
Let me know what you guys think?
"if you think education is expensive you
should try ignorance."
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Andy2001
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Posted: 10-08-05 13:50pm
Any body has positive experiences to
share?
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cd998776
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Posted: 10-08-05 14:44pm
They have worked well for me.
"learn4life" mentioned anal breathing
which is another technique; I think most
people find that kegels work better with
longer lasting effects though. Other
than that, I would try to stay away from
what actionlove says as much as possible.
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kooma
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Posted: 10-09-05 10:43am
Ok i'm an average guy trying to get over
pe and i've been doing kegels for several
months, and after a bit of a change of
routine, i'm starting to know what cd
means when he says you will feel them
start to work...I by no means have much
control at all yet, but I can feel that it
takes more and more stimulation to get me
off. The problem was for a long time I
was doing kegels but not enough, and not
the right kind, to really strengthen the
muscle. Think about it, if you wanted
your arm to get stronger you wouldn't just
move it up and down 100 times a day would
you? I mean technically it would
strengthen your arm but it'd take 5 years
before you noticed any useable difference.
I found that simply contracting the
muscle is not enough for some guys because
some guys start out with much weaker pc
muscles than others. After 6 months of
simply doing contractions every day and
not noticing much difference I started
taking the suggestion of putting a wet
towel (a small towel) over my penis when
it was erect and doing the penile lifts,
this is a good exercise because it
isolates your pc muscle by default. I
would do say 50 1sec lifts followed by a
30 second hold. Of course your erection
probably will start to go down at this
point so you get yourself back up to being
hard again, and start a new set. I'm up
to about 4 sets of these exercises a day
and my pc muscle really feels like it is
being worked finally. You may want to
start with just a wet sock if your pc's
are starting out really weak. So to get
back to how I can tell it is
working...That great feeling you get when
your libido starts to kick it into high
gear, which usually means guys like us are
about 10 seconds away from losing it, is
starting to draw out. I get to that point
and now have like 30 more seconds of that
great feeling before it starts to get to
the point of no return. It has taken me
about 1 month of (real) kegel exercises to
get that far, but I can tell that finally
some progress has been made. I have been
dealing with pe for almost 10 years and I
have tried the start-stop, masturbating
beforehand, and desensitizing creams, none
of this has been even close to successful.
But these more intense kegel sets, they
are finally doing something. It has not
been easy...What the more informed
websites say is true, discipline,
patience, and determination are essential
if you want to overcome this, a bit of a
sense of humor helps as well. So kick it
up a notch my friend, and good luck.
Ps actionlove guy would have you believe
smoking pot causes premature ejaculation.
Don't listen to that fool.
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cd998776
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Posted: 10-09-05 15:51pm
kooma
wrote:
after 6 months of simply
doing contractions every day and not
noticing much difference I started taking
the suggestion of putting a wet towel (a
small towel) over my penis when it was
erect and doing the penile lifts, this is
a good exercise because it isolates your
pc muscle by default. I would do say 50
1sec lifts followed by a 30 second hold.
Of course your erection probably will
start to go down at this point so you get
yourself back up to being hard again, and
start a new set. I'm up to about 4 sets
of these exercises a day and my pc muscle
really feels like it is being worked
finally.
awesome advice and i'm glad to here that
they are finally working for you!