Never thought someone here have read alan
ritz's book.
Anyways, dave w's improvement to Dr.Lin is
basically a viariation of alan ritz's
method.
Alan ritz uses l-tyrosine for dopamine,
l-ariginine/l-citruline for no, 5-htp for
serotonin, choline for acetylcholine, a
multi-vitamin/mineral and whey protein
amino acids, tribulus
terrestris/hydroxyandrost-4-ene-6,
17-dioxo-3-thp ether (3-ohat)/3,
7-diketo-androst-1,4,6-triene (atd) for
testosterone and herbs from tcm tonics
specialist ron teeguarden.
Dave w. Was the first to figure out that
Dr.Lin's formulas are too low quality to
be effective in most cases and way more
expensive than the market price for the
ingredients. Dave uses l-tyrosine for
dopamine, l-ariginine for no, 5-htp for
serotonin, choline for acetylcholine,
6-oxo/tribex/horny goat weed/tongkat ali
and formerly comid for testosterone, and
adam multi-vitamin from now foods.
William j. On november 24, 2005 became
the greatest genius to rise since dave w.
By discovering brazil live coral. After
taking dave w's advices an Dr.Lin's
formulas without success, he began to
research body ph balance and found brazil
coral calcium which contains a high amount
of many minerals. Without minerals, the
body cannot make use of vitamins and thus
cannot convert the ingredients into
neurochemicals for recovery.
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Re: Well... Posted: 12-01-05 21:18pm
grandmaster
wrote:
never thought someone here
have read alan ritz's book.
Anyways, dave w's improvement to Dr.Lin is
basically a viariation of alan ritz's
method.
Alan ritz uses l-tyrosine for dopamine,
l-ariginine/l-citruline for no, 5-htp for
serotonin, choline for acetylcholine, a
multi-vitamin/mineral and whey protein
amino acids, tribulus
terrestris/hydroxyandrost-4-ene-6,
17-dioxo-3-thp ether (3-ohat)/3,
7-diketo-androst-1,4,6-triene (atd) for
testosterone and herbs from tcm tonics
specialist ron teeguarden.
Dave w. Was the first to figure out that
Dr.Lin's formulas are too low quality to
be effective in most cases and way more
expensive than the market price for the
ingredients. Dave uses l-tyrosine for
dopamine, l-ariginine for no, 5-htp for
serotonin, choline for acetylcholine,
6-oxo/tribex/horny goat weed/tongkat ali
and formerly comid for testosterone, and
adam multi-vitamin from now foods.
William j. On november 24, 2005 became
the greatest genius to rise since dave w.
By discovering brazil live coral. After
taking dave w's advices an Dr.Lin's
formulas without success, he began to
research body ph balance and found brazil
coral calcium which contains a high amount
of many minerals. Without minerals, the
body cannot make use of vitamins and thus
cannot convert the ingredients into
neurochemicals for
recovery.
awesome ! Thanks for that :) so I take
it you have made a good recovery of your
penile impotence problems?
Its good to see someone on here having the
same knowledge and experiences.
In alan ritz's book he claims that long
term use of 5-htp can cause ems symptoms
... Do you know of any other reputable
sources of the same agreement?
I find that with alan ritz vip muscle
contraction and along with Dr.Lins vip
cream massage helps to really balloon the
penis .. Have you had the same
experiences?
So I take it your mineral water intake
must be very high then ;)
btw have you tried out alan ritz advice on
page 169 ? ;)
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ZenDude
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 8
Posted: 12-13-05 14:05pm
learn4life
wrote:
in order to produce a spontaneous, harder
and longer erection you must produce more
prostaglandin e1 in your penile tissues
and by taking daily
3000mg fish oil
3000mg borage oil
1500mg l-arginine
hi learn4life, just curious where you buy
the supplements above?
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Posted: 12-13-05 14:14pm
zendude
wrote:
learn4life
wrote:
in order to produce a spontaneous, harder
and longer erection you must produce more
prostaglandin e1 in your penile tissues
and by taking daily
3000mg fish oil
3000mg borage oil
1500mg l-arginine
hi learn4life, just curious where you buy
the supplements
above?
hey !
At any health store :)
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Human
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 89
T Boosters Posted: 12-15-05 00:31am
Taking testosterone boosters such as those
in Dr. Lins formulae can be very bad for
adults under 40.
Example
1 side effect of taking dhea for too long
in young males is sterility.
I personally tried Dr.Lins full regime and
it did jack caca for me so you can see how
i'm a bit skeptical.
Too much sex is also something I find hard
to believe. My friend is 24, he's had
sex a minimum of 3 times a day everyday
ever since he was little (his gf's all
confirm this). This is physically
impossible for me to do thats why i'm
using this person as an extreme example.
After about 13 years of him doing this
he's absolutley fine.
I refuse to believe some men have a sexual
limit where if they have sex too many
times per week for a period of time they
go impotent. My last g/f wanted to have
sex everyday so she should be leaving a
whole sleugh of boyfriends tired and
impotent after she's done with them. I
mean if this were true then everybody with
an active sex life would eventually become
impotent.
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Pedro
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Dec 2005 Posts: 35 Location: california
Posted: 12-15-05 03:29am
This thread is similar to mine. If you
guys could please leave some feedback on
my thread
please....Http://ehealthforum.Com/health/v
iewtopic.Php?P=312908#312908
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ZenDude
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 8
Posted: 12-15-05 03:48am
Has anyone here tried alan ritz' methonds?
Just curious how his stuff stacks up
against Dr. Lin's, namely ritz' vip
muscle compared to lin's anal breathing
technique? I suppose what i'd like to
know is has anyone gotten great results
using ritz' approach to premature
ejaculation?
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den71
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 28
Posted: 12-27-05 16:52pm
I was considering buying alan ritz's book,
bc of all the good reviews. The claims
are pretty lofty, wouldn't expect all of
them.
I am a little skeptical though bc all the
reviews sound like they were written by
the same person. Most of them are very
articulate and use the exact same
terminology and phrasing...It's not like a
real person would sit there and write a
review as if they were being graded on
it.
It's only $23, I will probably buy it
anyway. Just wondered if anyone else has
read it. :)
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ZenDude
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 8
Posted: 12-27-05 23:07pm
Yeah, I got the book about 10 days ago and
have tried some of the recommendations.
Here's the truth: yes it does work, and
pretty dramatically at that. I intend to
add a few more supplements that should
yield even better results. In order to
get the best results using the vip muscle
you have to have certain vitamins and
minerals already in the bloodstream.
Anyway, i'm very impressed by the book and
look forward to further improvements.
Peace,
zendude
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cd998776
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 996 Location: Ohio
Thanks: 1
Thanked:0
Posted: 12-27-05 23:32pm
zendude
wrote:
in order to get the best
results using the vip muscle you have to
have certain vitamins and minerals already
in the bloodstream.
see, that's the part I just don't get; if
it's truly a "muscle," then it should make
any difference.....
The book has gotten good and bad reviews;
i'll have to look into it a little
more....
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Conrad
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 4
Posted: 12-28-05 14:47pm
Zendude,could you give us more details
about the vip muscle ?. After reading
barbara keesling's book and getting awful
results , im feeling pesimistic about
these books .
Since at this moment i'm unable in any way
to get my hands on the book , could you
please explain in a few sentences where is
the vip muscle and how to locate it ? And
how do you use it exactly ? I really want
to know , but I can't wait until I can buy
the book !
Thanks in advance ,
peace
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ZenDude
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 8
Posted: 12-28-05 17:23pm
Hi all,
i'm on my way to work but will try to get
something up in the next day or two about
the vip muscle, so stay tuned.
Zendude
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Re: T Boosters Posted: 12-28-05 19:44pm
human
wrote:
taking testosterone boosters
such as those in Dr. Lins formulae
can be very bad for adults under 40.
Example
1 side effect of taking dhea for too long
in young males is sterility.
-----------------------
(my reply)
only testosterone replacement therapy will
cause such problems. That is why
testosterone products require
prescription. The difference is
Dr.Lins products are herbs which do not
require prescription.
The testosterone shot may fully disable
your testicular function and over-load
your liver detoxification system, since
testosterone injection can force the liver
to detoxify it into estrogen or dht.
-----------------------
i personally tried Dr.Lins full regime and
it did jack health question for me so you
can see how i'm a bit skeptical.
-----------------------
(my reply)
if your testostorone level is lower than
300ng/dl then all herbs/supplements from
Dr.Lins products have a 50/50
chance of working.
Before starting such programs you should
really consider a pituitary and androgen
hormone test and a liver function
evaluation to see what is the current
status of your pituitary-testicular and
liver function.
This will determine if herbs/supplements
will work for you.
-----------------------
too much sex is also something I find hard
to believe. My friend is 24, he's
had sex a minimum of 3 times a day
everyday ever since he was little (his
gf's all confirm this). This is
physically impossible for me to do thats
why i'm using this person as an extreme
example. After about 13 years of him
doing this he's absolutley fine.
I refuse to believe some men have a sexual
limit where if they have sex too many
times per week for a period of time they
go impotent. My last g/f wanted to
have sex everyday so she should be leaving
a whole sleugh of boyfriends tired and
impotent after she's done with them.
I mean if this were true then everybody
with an active sex life would eventually
become impotent.
-----------------------
(my reply)
this is why you cannot have sex 3 times a
day unlike your friend.
You said you refuse to believe some men
have a sexual limit yet
the truth lies in your own words.
The sexual limit does exist because if it
didnt then we could all be like your
friend and have sex at least 3x everyday
for 13 years non-stop.
Its just that every persons limit is
different. Even too much of a
(very)good thing can be bad. :)
hope this helps.
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cd998776
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Aug 2005 Posts: 996 Location: Ohio
Thanks: 1
Thanked:0
Re: T Boosters Posted: 12-29-05 22:48pm
learn4life
wrote:
human
wrote:
taking testosterone boosters
such as those in Dr. Lins formulae
can be very bad for adults under 40.
Example
1 side effect of taking dhea for too long
in young males is sterility.
-----------------------
(my reply)
only testosterone replacement therapy will
cause such problems. That is why
testosterone products require
prescription. The difference is
Dr.Lins products are herbs which do not
require prescription.
The testosterone shot may fully disable
your testicular function and over-load
your liver detoxification system, since
testosterone injection can force the liver
to detoxify it into estrogen or dht.
-----------------------
i personally tried Dr.Lins full regime and
it did jack health question for me so you
can see how i'm a bit skeptical.
-----------------------
(my reply)
if your testostorone level is lower than
300ng/dl then all herbs/supplements from
Dr.Lins products have a 50/50
chance of working.
Before starting such programs you should
really consider a pituitary and androgen
hormone test and a liver function
evaluation to see what is the current
status of your pituitary-testicular and
liver function.
This will determine if herbs/supplements
will work for you.
-----------------------
too much sex is also something I find hard
to believe. My friend is 24, he's
had sex a minimum of 3 times a day
everyday ever since he was little (his
gf's all confirm this). This is
physically impossible for me to do thats
why i'm using this person as an extreme
example. After about 13 years of him
doing this he's absolutley fine.
I refuse to believe some men have a sexual
limit where if they have sex too many
times per week for a period of time they
go impotent. My last g/f wanted to
have sex everyday so she should be leaving
a whole sleugh of boyfriends tired and
impotent after she's done with them.
I mean if this were true then everybody
with an active sex life would eventually
become impotent.
-----------------------
(my reply)
this is why you cannot have sex 3 times a
day unlike your friend.
You said you refuse to believe some men
have a sexual limit yet
the truth lies in your own words.
The sexual limit does exist because if it
didnt then we could all be like your
friend and have sex at least 3x everyday
for 13 years non-stop.
Its just that every persons limit is
different. Even too much of a
(very)good thing can be bad. :)
hope this helps.
<
span class="postbody">
that's what i've been thinking all
along.... Thanks!
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Re: T Boosters Posted: 12-30-05 08:40am
cd998776
wrote:
learn4life
wrote:
human
wrote:
taking testosterone boosters
such as those in Dr. Lins formulae
can be very bad for adults under 40.
Example
1 side effect of taking dhea for too long
in young males is sterility.
-----------------------
(my reply)
only testosterone replacement therapy will
cause such problems. That is why
testosterone products require
prescription. The difference is
Dr.Lins products are herbs which do not
require prescription.
The testosterone shot may fully disable
your testicular function and over-load
your liver detoxification system, since
testosterone injection can force the liver
to detoxify it into estrogen or dht.
-----------------------
i personally tried Dr.Lins full regime and
it did jack health question for me so you
can see how i'm a bit skeptical.
-----------------------
(my reply)
if your testostorone level is lower than
300ng/dl then all herbs/supplements from
Dr.Lins products have a 50/50
chance of working.
Before starting such programs you should
really consider a pituitary and androgen
hormone test and a liver function
evaluation to see what is the current
status of your pituitary-testicular and
liver function.
This will determine if herbs/supplements
will work for you.
-----------------------
too much sex is also something I find hard
to believe. My friend is 24, he's
had sex a minimum of 3 times a day
everyday ever since he was little (his
gf's all confirm this). This is
physically impossible for me to do thats
why i'm using this person as an extreme
example. After about 13 years of
him doing this he's absolutley fine.
I refuse to believe some men have a sexual
limit where if they have sex too many
times per week for a period of time they
go impotent. My last g/f wanted to
have sex everyday so she should be leaving
a whole sleugh of boyfriends tired and
impotent after she's done with them.
I mean if this were true then everybody
with an active sex life would eventually
become impotent.
-----------------------
(my reply)
this is why you cannot have sex 3 times a
day unlike your friend.
You said you refuse to believe some men
have a sexual limit yet
the truth lies in your own words.
The sexual limit does exist because if it
didnt then we could all be like your
friend and have sex at least 3x everyday
for 13 years non-stop.
Its just that every persons limit is
different. Even too much of a
(very)good thing can be bad. :)
hope this helps.
<
span class="postbody">
that's what i've been thinking all
along....
Thanks!
hey ! No problem.. Happy to help anyway
I can ;)
cheers !
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den71
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 28
Posted: 12-30-05 17:56pm
"the sexual limit does exist because if it
didnt then we could all be like your
friend and have sex at least 3x everyday
for 13 years non-stop."
i believe this could be true in the short
run, like having sex 2-3 times one night
might make you unable later that night or
next morning. (too much of a good thing)
but I can't believe that all the sex you
have in your life is adding up on some
counter somewhere and will expire.
Is that what this is implying? The body
regenerates itself too much over time for
this to be true. Also, the relationships
you are in change and dictate your
ability/desire/comfort,etc...
Sorry if I misinterpreted the statement!
:d
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Posted: 12-30-05 20:02pm
den71
wrote:
"the sexual limit does exist
because if it didnt then we could all be
like your friend and have sex at least 3x
everyday for 13 years non-stop."
i believe this could be true in the short
run, like having sex 2-3 times one night
might make you unable later that night or
next morning. (too much of a good
thing)
but I can't believe that all the sex you
have in your life is adding up on some
counter somewhere and will expire.
Is that what this is implying? The
body regenerates itself too much over time
for this to be true. Also, the
relationships you are in change and
dictate your
ability/desire/comfort,etc...
Sorry if I misinterpreted the statement!
:d
the point is everybodys ejaculation
frequenzy/limit is different.
No man can avoid some penile dysfunction
too penile shrinkage ...
But if we maintain a balanced and healthy
sexual life then we can delay it.
If your not sure that every man
experiences penile shrinkage ... Ask
your father and your grandad and they will
tell you.
We should enjoy what we have but like
everything keep it balanced and try not to
overdo it and it will be there as active
for much, much longer.
What do you think?
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den71
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 28
Posted: 12-30-05 23:26pm
I will buy the part about everyone's
frequency being different, but I saw an
earlier post about 2x a week being too
much. This I could not agree with.
That is ridiculous.
As far as shrinkage, it would depend on
what kind of % we are talking. I would
believe a small %, sure, but inches? Find
it hard to believe, maybe we should ask
ron jeremy :lol:
peace
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learn4life
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 34 Location: Glasgow
Posted: 12-31-05 09:24am
den71
wrote:
i will buy the part about
everyone's frequency being different, but
I saw an earlier post about 2x a week
being too much. This I could not agree
with. That is ridiculous.
As far as shrinkage, it would depend on
what kind of % we are talking. I would
believe a small %, sure, but inches?
Find it hard to believe, maybe we should
ask ron jeremy :lol:
peace
2x a week .... This is too little ;p
especially for the guy who ejaculates
3x a day :)
no not inches... Well I hope not ha big
ron is having the opposite effect it seems
... The older he gets the bigger he gets
;)
peace and hope you all have a great and
prosperous new year !
Cheers !
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Conrad
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 4
Posted: 01-02-06 08:19am
Zendude , i'm still waiting for your reply
~! Please post some info when you have
the time! :)
