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learn4life

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Posted: 01-18-06 13:24pm

Cd998776 good point about the higher amount of epa from fish oil and gla from borage oil.

I use both liquid formulas with the highest amount of epa+gla available in the uk I can manage to find.

Here is the borage one I use :

http://www.Worldwideshoppingmall.Co .Uk/body-soul/liquid-borage-oil.Asp

fish oil :

http://www.Pharmacy2u. Co.Uk/vitamins-616810na/fish_oils-s-361514 fi/seven_seas_high_strength_cod_liver_oil_ liquid-sscl450.Html


cd998776 could you provide us a link/s to long term scientific studies which could indicate that extended use of borage oil may cause liver damage or cause cancer development ?

If this has been proven then I think it is extremely important to all people who use borage oil orally on long term basis.

Cheers !
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den71

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Posted: 01-20-06 15:24pm

I've been looking at alot of fish oil lately...Most have about 33% epa/dha, and every now and again I see one with about 55% (the 1 I bought).
I really haven't seen any 75-80%, can anybody direct me to it?
Thanks

also gla and 20-24% seem to be the high that i've seen.
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cd998776

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Posted: 01-22-06 13:08pm

Just google fish oil and 75% and you'll eventually find them. I can assure you, they are out there.
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learn4life

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Posted: 01-22-06 15:33pm

den71 wrote:
i've been looking at alot of fish oil lately...Most have about 33% epa/dha, and every now and again I see one with about 55% (the 1 I bought).

I really haven't seen any 75-80%, can anybody direct me to it?

Thanks

also gla and 20-24% seem to be the high that i've seen.


noticed the fish oil I gave isnt working. Heres another link to the same one I use :

high ratio of epa

h ttp://www.Mypharmacy.Co.Uk/alternative_med icines/medicines/s/seven%20seas/extra_high _strength_c_l_o.Htm

24% is about the highest I have seen for gla from borage oil... Unless anyone can provide a purchase link here ....

Cheers !
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den71

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Posted: 01-26-06 08:40am

Also gla and 20-24% seem to be the high that i've seen.[/quote]

noticed the fish oil I gave isnt working. Heres another link to the same one I use :

high ratio of epa

h ttp://www.Mypharmacy.Co.Uk/alternative_med icines/medicines/s/seven%20seas/extra_high _strength_c_l_o.Htm

24% is about the highest I have seen for gla from borage oil... Unless anyone can provide a purchase link here ....


Cheers ![/quote]

i still don't see the "ratio" of epa on that link you posted, just that there is 2300mg (alot!) but 9 grams of fat. How is one to figure the % on that? Isn't it like 25%? Please straighten me out on that.

Learn4life, out of curiosity--where does the 3000mg fish+borage and 1500mg l-arginine recommendation come from?

I was reading ritz and he mentions gla but doesn't say how much. Even mentions evening primose, which I find at 9% gla instead of 20-24% like borage.

Peace!
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learn4life

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Posted: 01-26-06 21:13pm

den71 wrote:
also gla and 20-24% seem to be the high that i've seen.


noticed the fish oil I gave isnt working. Heres another link to the same one I use :

high ratio of epa

h ttp://www.Mypharmacy.Co.Uk/alternative_med icines/medicines/s/seven%20seas/extra_high _strength_c_l_o.Htm

24% is about the highest I have seen for gla from borage oil... Unless anyone can provide a purchase link here ....



Cheers ![/quote]

hi there, ok will try to help. (r) =my reply

i still don't see the "ratio" of epa on that link you posted, just that there is 2300mg (alot!) but 9 grams of fat. How is one to figure the % on that? Isn't it like 25%? Please straighten me out on that.

(r) actually cod liver oil has slightly more dha to epa ratio than fish oil.
The ratio is somewhere like 55% dha 45% epa roughly. I have benefited from this brand of cod oil for a few years now. I dont use this one for penile massage as I find borage too be more effective over the years.

I think cd998776 meant the 75% ratio of the omega nutrients based on both. I havent seen a 75% ratio of just epa on fish/cod oils unless anyone can provide a purchase link ???


Learn4life, out of curiosity--where does the 3000mg fish+borage and 1500mg l-arginine recommendation come from?

(r)

from my own experience and recommended by Dr.Lin to my personal health and desired effects at the time. I would recommend people to start of with the minimal dosage to see if this is enough and then re-evaulate over a few weeks. The l-arginine I started of with 1gram and went away up to 5 -6 grams a day gradually. No short term side effects here but not sure on long term. The higher doesage was an experiment to produce a possible result.

I was reading ritz and he mentions gla but doesn't say how much. Even mentions evening primose, which I find at 9% gla instead of 20-24% like borage.

(r) from experience on the evening primose oils and borage oils, I have found borage to be stronger in producing the elastic hormone (pro-e1) around the body and especially when massaged onto the dht swelled up erection.

I would try taking 1000mg at first and note effects if any and go up gradually. You might benefit the desired affects from the minimal dosage and therefore this way would in turn give you a deeper pocket ;)

cheers and keep the questions comming !




Peace![/quote]
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den71

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Posted: 01-27-06 00:47am

My store sells cod liver oil but the label doesn't say anything about gla, just gives the vit. A & d content. Is there good and bad cod liver oil?

When you say it has 55%dha 45% epa are you saying that for 1 gram of omega 3 fatty acid it has 550mg dha, and 450mg epa? You want the most epa possible as opposed to more dha?

Because I have been looking at total of epa/dha (total omega3) divided by the actual fish oil content.

Example: mine has 800mg fish oil (2 pills)
of that 800mg, 440mg is omega 3 acids.
Of those 440mg, 264mg epa and 176mg dha.
So I have been assessing it as 55% omega 3.

That is a decent percent, right?

Does this question make any sense?

The reason I am asking is because my stores here have many different brands, I am looking for the best brand to purchase it in the future. I prefer to buy stuff online only as a last resort, bc in the long term it becomes too much effort and I will end up quitting.
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Conrad

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Posted: 01-30-06 13:18pm

Zendude , please post some information on alan ritz's methods . Im getting even more skeptic about everything,maybe it's just like the other methods that don't work :( im looking forward to your post , I still hope it's true and can help...
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datarider

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I Read All Alan Ritz's Reviews On Amazon. It's Suspicious
Posted: 01-30-06 19:56pm

But I still want to find out what's the hypes all about. I just want to see if the book is worth buying.

Can anyone post what vip muscle is and briefly describe about the exercise?
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learn4life

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Posted: 01-30-06 20:13pm

den71 wrote:
my store sells cod liver oil but the label doesn't say anything about gla, just gives the vit. A & d content. Is there good and bad cod liver oil?



When you say it has 55%dha 45% epa are you saying that for 1 gram of omega 3 fatty acid it has 550mg dha, and 450mg epa? You want the most epa possible as opposed to more dha?



Because I have been looking at total of epa/dha (total omega3) divided by the actual fish oil content.

Example: mine has 800mg fish oil (2 pills)
of that 800mg, 440mg is omega 3 acids.


Of those 440mg, 264mg epa and 176mg dha.


So I have been assessing it as 55% omega 3.



That is a decent percent, right?



Does this question make any sense?

The reason I am asking is because my stores here have many different brands, I am looking for the best brand to purchase it in the future. I prefer to buy stuff online only as a last resort, bc in the long term it becomes too much effort and I will end up quitting.


your asessment of the percentage of epa+dha from the omega 3 acids are spot on. The 800mg of fish oil from 2 softgels is very low. There should be 1000mg softge;s floating around in that vitamin shop.


Gla is from borage/evening primrose oil not fish/cod oils.


Btw how have you been getting on overall ? Any improvements ?
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pr11

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Posted: 02-03-06 02:41am

Hello,

i'm 24 and have been having trouble getting and maintaining an erection for nearly one year now. As you might imagine, this has greatly affected my relatioinship with my girlfriend. I'm on the verge of seeing a doctor, but before I do that, I want to make sure i've explored every avenue possible. Like many of you, I don't want to believe that is 'in my head'. I honestly do believe it is something physical.

I've read that the combination of l-arginine and pycogenol has improved sexual health in men. I've been on 5g of l-arginine and 100mg of pycnogenol daily for about a week. So far, I have seen no results. I hope that this is just because I haven't been taking these supplements for a long enough period. I was told that since l-arginine is an amino acid, you can take lots of it without any negative side effects. In fact, some sources I have read, state that bodybuilders often take between 9-20g per day and have such powerful erections that they must bend over to urinate. Unfortunately, I have yet to see those kind of results!

Anyways, i've been reading a lot of what you guys have been saying about fish oil and am keen to try it. Do you recommend taking 1000g daily? Also, with the 5g of l-arginine and 100mg of pycnogenol daily, that's a lot of pills!! Any ways to cut this down and still get results?

Thanks...
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Rob_21

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Ed
Posted: 02-04-06 15:41pm

Many years ago I discovered that I could increase the hardness of my erections by taking phosphadityl choline. Before I added the phosphadityl choline, I started taking a zinc supplement with vitamin e. When I started taking a zinc supplement my gf could literally feel the difference.

These supplements are inexpensive and work like a charm.

Later I discovered a wonderful herbal supplement called rh sold by new body products. I would take 1 or 2 rh capsules the morning of the day that I planned to have sex. Rh (rock hard) contains damiana, sarsaprilla, slippery elm, gotu kola, bee pollen, and cayenne.
You can not buy it onlne as far as I know.
The product is made by new body products. I have an 800 number for a distributor in georgia 1-800-841-2639
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den71

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Posted: 02-10-06 05:34am

learn4life wrote:
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Btw how have you been getting on overall ? Any improvements ?


there are alot of times I think I do notice an improvement, so I am continuing. Hard to tell in the short term.

My big problem was a few yrs ago and it was started by alcohol and sleeping pills (haha, imagine that!) and developed into a psych thing I couldn't get over. So then I was hooked on viagra for awhile and finally kicked that dependency.
Now that I am ok mentally it never hurts to try and improve physical part.

I know it sounds like i'm a person trying to do it while drinking and on sleeping pills but I had a severe sleep disorder, causing depression, etc... (the rest of it is a long story!)
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pr11

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Posted: 02-12-06 00:58am

Rob_21,

thanks for the advice on the zinc. I seriously think thats what made the difference for me. I was taking l-arginine 3x a day and pycnogenol 2x a day, but when I added 50mg of zinc a day, I went back to my old self! My erections have been very hard and i've been able to maintain them for long periods of time. I could not believe it. I was struggling for so long and was even about to go to the urologist. I don't know if it's just the zinc or the fact that I was also taking the other supplements for a period of time, but either way, i've had great results! It's done wonders for me confidence in a matter of days!
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rob_uk

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Posted: 02-12-06 14:48pm

Pr11 - great to hear your doing well. Do you think you could pm me or post on here what exactly you were taking please. Maybe even the make/brands if possible?

Also what was your situation beforehand? Weak erections? How long did you have them for?

Many thanks :)

rob :)
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pr11

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Posted: 02-12-06 18:31pm

rob_uk wrote:
pr11 - great to hear your doing well. Do you think you could pm me or post on here what exactly you were taking please. Maybe even the make/brands if possible?


Also what was your situation beforehand? Weak erections? How long did you have them for?


Many thanks :)

rob :)



rob,

for about 11 months my erections were very weak and no matter what I tried, they would not improve. I had put on about 15 pounds and have been under stress with school so I thought that may be the reason. But, even after I got back in shape and lost the weight, I saw no improvement.

A couple weeks ago, I read an old article in men's health extoling the combination of l-arginine and pycnogenol (an extract from some sort of tree in france). It stated that after 3 months of patients taking l-arginine and pycnogenol, 92% had had successful erection and been able to maintain them.

So, I started taking l-arginine 1.5g three times a day and pycnogenol 50mg twice a day. The l-arginine was the gnc brand, which I purchased through their website and the pycnogenol is also under the gnc name (preventice nutrition). I had read that it takes time for sufficient levels to build up, but I was getting anxious. After about two weeks of taking these two supplements, I read your response about zinc, so I started taking 50mg every morning (along with the l-arginine and pycnogenol).

So far, the results have been phenomenol. I could not be more satisfied. I can get erections whenever I want and they last for at least 30 min. I seriously thought there was no hope for me to ever naturally have an erection again.

Anyways, this is what men's health had to say about the l-arginine/pycnogenol mixture:

"pycnogenol, extracted from the bark of a french pine tree, is aprecursor to aspirin. It enhances blood flow to the heart and to the penis. It also helps restore elasticity and smoothness to the skin by reinforcing collagen fibers and strengthening the tiny capillaries, which help nourish the cells. L-arginine is an amino acid that is used by the body to build protein. When l-arginine supplements are taken in tandem with a daily routine of physical activity, a synergistic effect is produced that markedly increases your production of nitric oxide. This means greater blood flow to all areas of the body, and specifically to your penis."

let me know if you need any more info...
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pr11

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Re: Ed
Posted: 02-13-06 11:32am

rob_21 wrote:
many years ago I discovered that I could increase the hardness of my erections by taking phosphadityl choline. Before I added the phosphadityl choline, I started taking a zinc supplement with vitamin e. When I started taking a zinc supplement my gf could literally feel the difference.


These supplements are inexpensive and work like a charm.


Later I discovered a wonderful herbal supplement called rh sold by new body products. I would take 1 or 2 rh capsules the morning of the day that I planned to have sex. Rh (rock hard) contains damiana, sarsaprilla, slippery elm, gotu kola, bee pollen, and cayenne.

You can not buy it onlne as far as I know.

The product is made by new body products. I have an 800 number for a distributor in georgia 1-800-841-2639



rob,

i was wondering if you knew of any side effects to the zinc. Since i've started taking it, the only complaint I have is that I feel nauseous in the morning. Are you supposed to take it with meals? I've been taking it on an empty stomach. Thanks...
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rob_uk

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Posted: 02-13-06 18:38pm

Pr11

hi,

ive been reading up on zinc and have read on a quite a few websites that the zinc levels have to be kept at a reasonable level as, yes they can help with impotence/ed but too much zinc can actually cause impotence.

The rda (recommended daily amount is 15g) for zinc. So your 50g a day is very high. I would really try to cut down and see if the effects are the same.

I also read just now that the ult (upper level tolerance) is 40g. Which is the most our bodies can take without having bad effects.

There are also lots of other bad effects linked with excess zinc. Heres a sample from a website :

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excessive zinc intake will eventually affect the balance and proper ratios to numerous other important nutrients that may include iron, calcium, selenium, nickel, phosphorus, copper, as well as vitamin a, b1, c, and others.

It may also cause, or contribute to gastrointestinal problems, hair loss, anemia, loss of libido, impotence, prostatitis, ovarian cysts, menstrual problems, depressed immune functions, muscle spasms, sciatica, renal tubular necrosis / interstitial nephritis, dizziness and vomiting, among others.


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cut down on it and let me know if everything is still well! :) you dont want to be cured by something that will make things worse in the long run.

Rob :)
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vicky1010

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Posted: 02-17-06 06:22am

Hi
i need to have some help regarding my problem, I m facing some problems from last two months ,i m 29 years old its looking that without physical stimulation my penis dont get hard, and if I leave stimulation , it starts to fall down moreover as soon as I get hard flood of precum is starts to come out of my penis and I ejaculate with in short time , I was very healthy before, now this is getting really frustrated , as penis is looking very weak shruk
can u help me wat sort of medical help I m want
take care
bye
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Conrad

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Posted: 02-22-06 14:23pm

Alan ritz's method , it seems , is nothing but filthy lies . Do not buy his book ! What a scumbag...
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