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Do you believe it is possible to get pregnant without a uterus?
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seksiHily

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Re: To: Seksihily
Posted: 09-21-05 20:08pm

lesliepei wrote:
in case you haven't read fatfamily's posts, she has not had a positive urine or blood pregnancy test and she also had an ultrasound in which no baby was found in her abdomen...Get your facts straight.

And trust me, as a pharmacist i'm higher on the health field totem pole than a medical transcriptionist (ie secretary). Please don't presume to know more about this stuff than me. I was in university for 10 years and at the top of my class all along.


Respectfully,
leslie

i wasnt saying I did, :roll: but do you honestly thing pharmocology has anything to do with pregnancy? Hmm didnt think so, and junebugz, I didn't say anything about you and I didnt know you were a ambulance dispatcher, I know that they do have more medical background, but are not licensed doctors.
Im not taking either side here I came here to state the *facts* I knew.
And leslie, no they dont, obese bellies sag, and when they get pregnant, they tighten the further they get along. Please go google obese pregnancy or something. In less than 9 mos we'll all see ok?
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Re: To: Seksihily
Posted: 09-21-05 20:49pm

lesliepei wrote:
in case you haven't read fatfamily's posts, she has not had a positive urine or blood pregnancy test and she also had an ultrasound in which no baby was found in her abdomen...Get your facts straight.

And trust me, as a pharmacist i'm higher on the health field totem pole than a medical transcriptionist (ie secretary). Please don't presume to know more about this stuff than me. I was in university for 10 years and at the top of my class all along.



Respectfully,
leslie


but did you also read that my u/s shows corpus luteum, or dominant folicle(whatever they choose to call it--its corpus luteum and I seen with my eyes) after 6 weeks after ovulation. I know when I ovulate I get middle pains for 5 days every time. Havent ovulated since. Over 10 weeks ago.


I have them would you like to see, babe would only be 1/4 of inch or less when u/s was done. (my daughter had heterotopic preg 3 weeks previous where they killed baby in uterus with methotrexate--cus all they seen was sac, nothing else--3 days later it was a baby and yoke sac--but it was too late, they make mistakes--and this one will cost them when lawyers get done with it)

they only examined my ovaries no where else. Course I think it did start on my left ovary. Want to see my u/s with open folicle hole and blood flow emense for "nothing" no sickness or disease found either.??? I can post them also, if you have so much medical expertise you can explain to me what is there then.
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wahinetime

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Posted: 09-21-05 23:36pm

Dont worry yall, what's gonna happen is whenever she's due, one of two things will happen:

- she will have had a "unfortunate" loss pertaining to the baby

- she will have "disappeared" from the forum before the due date, to either never come back under that name or to have some sort of unfortunate loss while she was "gone"

what she is claiming is physically impossible. People have been saying "with god anything is possible" no. With faith, you can achieve things, but god cannot make bodies which are missing vital parts work the way they used to.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-21-05 23:48pm

Here are my u/s images, tell me what you see

--my duaghter was preg in uterus and possibly without(heterotopic)--the health provider killed her uterine baby with methotrexate, 3 days later they see uterine preg. She was almost 6 weeks. Her images show --in my opinion--less signs than mine do of pregnancy.



my ultra/sound report wrote:
the left ovary measures 2.6x2.5x2 cm and contains an 8mm hypoechoic to anechoic lesion that may represent a follicular cyst. Please correlate with menstrual history. No free fluid in the cul-de-sac. Vascular flow to both ovaries is identified. Status post hysterectomy. Hypo to anechoic lesion left ovary measuring 8mm does not appear to explain patients symptoms and may represent a dominant follicle or follicular cyst. Please correlate with menstrual history to determine significance.


http://speedy-affiliate.C om/myultra.Html

http://speedy-affiliate.C om/mommas.Html

every scientist knows "no set facts in science" and god can do anything he wants doh!!!
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-21-05 23:51pm

wahinetime wrote:
dont worry yall, what's gonna happen is whenever she's due, one of two things will happen:

- she will have had a "unfortunate" loss pertaining to the baby

- she will have "disappeared" from the forum before the due date, to either never come back under that name or to have some sort of unfortunate loss while she was "gone"

what she is claiming is physically impossible. People have been saying "with god anything is possible" no. With faith, you can achieve things, but god cannot make bodies which are missing vital parts work the way they used to.


i rebuke that in the name of jesus--
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Rasberry Ripple

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Posted: 09-22-05 05:39am

I'm probably being an incensitive health forum....But I have to say that I am really bored of the same old subject....Every topic seems to end with this.....

Just give it a rest will you! Most of us are hormonal and I for one find this subject hard to believe. I "felt" pregnant for 3 weeks before I actually conceived, so saying "i feel pregnant" doesn't really wash.

When the doctors are saying "congratulations you're pregnant" or you have acutally given birth, then I will humbly apologise.....But for the time being, I have to say that this is all a bit "alice in wonderland". Feeling pregnant is not enough in my book.

And by the way....My mate looks 7 months pregnant. I think however, that it's highly unlikely that he will be having a child in the next 2 months, but I suppose if he prays hard enough, it might just happen!
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seksiHily

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Posted: 09-22-05 08:21am

Wait, both you and your daughter have had pregnancies after hysterectomys?
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seksiHily

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Posted: 09-22-05 08:26am

Wait, both you and your daughter have had pregnancies after hysterectomys?
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-22-05 08:30am

rasberry ripple wrote:
i'm probably being an incensitive health forum....But I have to say that I am really bored of the same old subject....Every topic seems to end with this.....


Just give it a rest will you! Most of us are hormonal and I for one find this subject hard to believe. I "felt" pregnant for 3 weeks before I actually conceived, so saying "i feel pregnant" doesn't really wash.


When the doctors are saying "congratulations you're pregnant" or you have acutally given birth, then I will humbly apologise.....But for the time being, I have to say that this is all a bit "alice in wonderland". Feeling pregnant is not enough in my book.


And by the way....My mate looks 7 months pregnant. I think however, that it's highly unlikely that he will be having a child in the next 2 months, but I suppose if he prays hard enough, it might just happen!


yes it is when you can feel!!!! Im not stupid person, ive been preg 10 times. I kinda know what its like. I have never been wrong--knew I was preg, found out I was preg, either miscarried or give birth. Every time. Drs even told me I wasnt one time, almost killed my little doughboy!!

I have never had a dr listen to me--it is just my life. Come to find out everything I ever said about myself came out in the end to be just what I said. With dr acceptance or not.

Now, I can only go to the emergency room, I have no insurance. And if anyone knows about emergency treatment--they either listen or they dont. Either send you for referral to another doc, or they send you home. Stating condition is not an emergency. Well abdomen swollen to the point im getting new stretch marks, is an emergency situation, and being preg in the abdomen is also emergency treatment. They try and kill the baby immedietly--emergency abortion, not safe, not viable. It is all a lie. The point is if drs would actually listen to their patients instead of letting their brains get in the way--medicaine would be a lot smoother. "no set facts in science"
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-22-05 08:34am

seksihily wrote:
wait, both you and your daughter have had pregnancies after hysterectomys?


if you guys would read what I wrote you go a lot farther---doh---i said both me and my daughter had to wait until 7 weeks preg to get pos preg test. It was with my son, they said I wasnt gave me shot to make me bleed, I was 5 weeks, he did pelvic and everything. 2 weeks later I went back and they say oohhh your 7 weeks preg. Thank god the shot dint work!! Huh
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Posted: 09-22-05 08:43am

wahinetime wrote:
dont worry yall, what's gonna happen is whenever she's due, one of two things will happen:

- she will have had a "unfortunate" loss pertaining to the baby

- she will have "disappeared" from the forum before the due date, to either never come back under that name or to have some sort of unfortunate loss while she was "gone"

what she is claiming is physically impossible. People have been saying "with god anything is possible" no. With faith, you can achieve things, but god cannot make bodies which are missing vital parts work the way they used to.



the valley of dried bones, got up and walked. Ezekiel 37:4-10 god can and does still put limbs back on, opens blinded eyes, heals aids and all manner of disease, replaces missing organs, and most of all saves souls and takes the blinders off of unseeing eyes(if you have no faith you have scales on your eyes--cannot see the spiritual things). "to all who dare to believe"
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GinACod

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Posted: 09-22-05 09:03am

Really, its on the net ppl can get pg if they still have ovarys. Yes an adomon pg is very dangerous but it does happen.

Ok doctors can be wrong. I know I have had experince myself. Not all doctors listen to you. My first pg went great... Piture perfect, book perfect. So I knew what to expect with my sec one. Though there not all the same but it was alot like it. My sec one they had me on stress tests, saying I was contrating every 10 mins. Real contrations my last week of pg. The docs were concerned that she would be premature. They wanted 2-3 more weeks with me. I told them I was contracting and they did nothing. I demanded that they look at me ( granted this was a clinic), they wouldn't, they said we will look next week. Well needless to say I had her that weekend, 2 days after the conflict with them. Nice right.. Who knows more about their own body then a women? Now my 3rd pg well they were jerks again... Come on 5 due dates... Well they still didn't listen. They tried to do the same thing. Along with ohh if its not in the books then we don't do it. Come on doctors don't know it all. I've had four babies all of them over 6 lbs when born. My heavyest was 7 lbs 6 oz. I carry small and seem like i'm not very pg though I was 9 months. My last doctor listened to me with my last pg. It was such a releif for me. And finally I had a normal pg.. Delivery was different cause I really didn't realize I was in active labor. They admitted me to the hospital and I was contracting every 3 mins/per the machine. That one I was shocked but anyway then after that I went had my tube tied. Well that was an experince in its self. Like 1 in 200 ladies this happens to and its never happend to my doctor. I went in and had again a text book experince. Well that night I went in because I couldn't breathe I was in such pain. The perimedics, the er doctors all said that it was just the co2 gas. Well it wasn't yet again proving that doctors can be wrong. I had 1 and 1/2 liters of blood in my pancrous. Hello.... Well atleast my doc had the brains to have me addmitted and did more tests on me which lead to an u/s which found the blood.

It happens... Its happened before it can happen again...

She can get pg... Now the question is on whether or not shes able to carry it til full term. I pray she can. I'm one not to say shes lying yet you never know ( this is the net) but if shes not think of everything else and waht a miricale it is for her. Be happy, pray for her, hope that she doesn't have any complications other then others not listening to her. We are here to be supportive, not to be d*mning. Personally if she thinks she is then she could be. Let her be the one to change medical protical with hystoretimys. More power to her. I think she is, since she believes she is. I pray for the best for her and that everything goes well... Why is that soo hard for you?
If shes not well then I feel for her or if she loses it I would never want that for someone.

I'm not saying I know it all. Heck I don't I learn new things everyday. But I am saying those who think they do don't know it all and can be wrong. Think about it.... The only person that has the right to say they know everything is god...
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OldDoc

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Posted: 09-22-05 09:04am

Well hello all, I am new to your forums as a member, but have been reading posts for a few months now. I am not going to go into alot of horn blowing trying to impress you or go on forever about how smart I am or how much I know, but a few of you are really pissing me off! 1965 in june I had the fortune of personally seeing the wonders of god's miracles. Janet ------ a 44 year old woman, devout christian, came into my office. She had been in an accident 10 years previous which nearly cost her her life, but did claim the lives of her 3 children, and her uterus. She had been diagnosed with an abdominal tumor at a large not to be named medical facility. God really wanted me to pay attention to this woman's problems.

After many lab tests, the best of the era, I was confounded. Exploratory surgery I felt was my only option. I scheduled her for surgery at the closest large hospital. Why a obgwn would go any further, than this I do not know, but I was compelled to be there during her surgery, even though I knew she was in the best medical hands I could refer her too. To much our surprise, when we opened up her abdominal cavity, a fetus had taken up residence. Nearly a full term baby girl. Medically imposible? No. Anyway just wanted to get that off of my chest. When man has the conceit to think he is all knowing, he is in danger of getting slapped by the man upstairs.
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Posted: 09-22-05 09:14am

Thank you olddoc.
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fatfamily02

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Posted: 09-22-05 09:18am

ginacod wrote:
really, its on the net ppl can get pg if they still have ovarys. Yes an adomon pg is very dangerous but it does happen.

Ok doctors can be wrong. I know I have had experince myself. Not all doctors listen to you. My first pg went great... Piture perfect, book perfect. So I knew what to expect with my sec one. Though there not all the same but it was alot like it. My sec one they had me on stress tests, saying I was contrating every 10 mins. Real contrations my last week of pg. The docs were concerned that she would be premature. They wanted 2-3 more weeks with me. I told them I was contracting and they did nothing. I demanded that they look at me ( granted this was a clinic), they wouldn't, they said we will look next week. Well needless to say I had her that weekend, 2 days after the conflict with them. Nice right.. Who knows more about their own body then a women? Now my 3rd pg well they were jerks again... Come on 5 due dates... Well they still didn't listen. They tried to do the same thing. Along with ohh if its not in the books then we don't do it. Come on doctors don't know it all. I've had four babies all of them over 6 lbs when born. My heavyest was 7 lbs 6 oz. I carry small and seem like i'm not very pg though I was 9 months. My last doctor listened to me with my last pg. It was such a releif for me. And finally I had a normal pg.. Delivery was different cause I really didn't realize I was in active labor. They admitted me to the hospital and I was contracting every 3 mins/per the machine. That one I was shocked but anyway then after that I went had my tube tied. Well that was an experince in its self. Like 1 in 200 ladies this happens to and its never happend to my doctor. I went in and had again a text book experince. Well that night I went in because I couldn't breathe I was in such pain. The perimedics, the er doctors all said that it was just the co2 gas. Well it wasn't yet again proving that doctors can be wrong. I had 1 and 1/2 liters of blood in my pancrous. Hello.... Well atleast my doc had the brains to have me addmitted and did more tests on me which lead to an u/s which found the blood.

It happens... Its happened before it can happen again...


She can get pg... Now the question is on whether or not shes able to carry it til full term. I pray she can. I'm one not to say shes lying yet you never know ( this is the net) but if shes not think of everything else and waht a miricale it is for her. Be happy, pray for her, hope that she doesn't have any complications other then others not listening to her. We are here to be supportive, not to be d*mning. Personally if she thinks she is then she could be. Let her be the one to change medical protical with hystoretimys. More power to her. I think she is, since she believes she is. I pray for the best for her and that everything goes well... Why is that soo hard for you?

If shes not well then I feel for her or if she loses it I would never want that for someone.


I'm not saying I know it all. Heck I don't I learn new things everyday. But I am saying those who think they do don't know it all and can be wrong. Think about it.... The only person that has the right to say they know everything is god...


thank you very much--god will bless you

joanna

ps. To the rest search the net--ectopic pregnancy, heterotopic pregnancy, abdominal pregnancy, intra abdominal pregnancy, extra uterine pregnancy
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Re: Pregnant After Hysterectomy
Posted: 09-22-05 09:30am

lesliepei wrote:
just to clarify people....Nobody is being mean, it is just physically impossible for a woman to get pregnant after having a hysterectomy. Surgeons close off the opening of the vagina to the abdominal cavity at the end of the operation, so the vagina is now a closed sac which is open only at the outside. Even if somebody stuck a woman who had had a hysterectomy with a needle through her abdomen containing fertilized eggs and injected her with them (which we honestly doubt would ever happen - even hollywood hasn't done that yet), it would be like a 0.00000000000000001% chance of the fertilized egg ever developing into anything....Truth is, chances are probably less.


There is a condition called pseudo-paresis in which the woman so strongly believes she is pregnant that her body shows all symptoms....Enlarging belly and all!!


Like I said before, I am not trying to be mean, but just stating scientific, medical facts.


sorry but I just had an ectopic pregnancy five years after having my uterus removed. There are no tumors present and my tumor smears came back negative, so far. My doctor said that the body doesn't know that it doesn't have a uterus so it acts as it does. Rare though it may be, it happened to me. I was treated with a chemo drug, metaprexat, (not sure of correct spelling) to delete the cells of the embryo, which by the way is a new treatment to terminate an ectopic pregnancy. To be honest, my doctor said that there are tumors that create the pregnancy hormone and can give a false result, but I would rather have an ectopic pregnancy than a cancerous tumor. I am still being tested just to make sure the hormone levels are dropping and since they are, I am being ruled as having an ectopic pregnancy.
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Re: To: Seksihily
Posted: 09-22-05 09:37am

seksihily wrote:
lesliepei wrote:
in case you haven't read fatfamily's posts, she has not had a positive urine or blood pregnancy test and she also had an ultrasound in which no baby was found in her abdomen...Get your facts straight.

And trust me, as a pharmacist i'm higher on the health field totem pole than a medical transcriptionist (ie secretary). Please don't presume to know more about this stuff than me. I was in university for 10 years and at the top of my class all along.



Respectfully,
leslie

i wasnt saying I did, :roll: but do you honestly thing pharmocology has anything to do with pregnancy? Hmm didnt think so, and junebugz, I didn't say anything about you and I didnt know you were a ambulance dispatcher, I know that they do have more medical background, but are not licensed doctors.
Im not taking either side here I came here to state the *facts* I knew.
And leslie, no they dont, obese bellies sag, and when they get pregnant, they tighten the further they get along. Please go google obese pregnancy or something. In less than 9 mos we'll all see ok?



what I know is that I lost my uterus because the placenta became attached to it during my last pregnancy. I had total placenta previa. How on earth a person can carry a baby in the abdomen without the placenta becoming attached to an organ is beyond me. I would be afraid of it becoming attached to something that I need and having it have to be removed. It is too dangerous. However, I did get pregnant five years after my uterine hyst. And they terminated the pregnancy with metaprexat (a chemo drug used to kill the cells of tumors). I just hope that if she is, she knows what she is doing. If she is about 5 months she can actually give birth in a couple of weeks with chances of baby living. I would certainly be afraid to carry it to term, if it is at all possible.
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fatfamily02

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Re: Pregnant After Hysterectomy
Posted: 09-22-05 09:55am

carv wrote:


sorry but I just had an ectopic pregnancy five years after having my uterus removed. There are no tumors present and my tumor smears came back negative, so far. My doctor said that the body doesn't know that it doesn't have a uterus so it acts as it does. Rare though it may be, it happened to me. I was treated with a chemo drug, metaprexat, (not sure of correct spelling) to delete the cells of the embryo, which by the way is a new treatment to terminate an ectopic pregnancy. To be honest, my doctor said that there are tumors that create the pregnancy hormone and can give a false result, but I would rather have an ectopic pregnancy than a cancerous tumor. I am still being tested just to make sure the hormone levels are dropping and since they are, I am being ruled as having an ectopic pregnancy.



previous author wrote:
hello ladies :d

well let me tell you a little about myself ..... I am 35 and in sept. 1999 I had a vaginal hysterectomy. They took only my cervix and uterus. Everything was fine ..... I still had sore breasts each month as you still have your "cycle" even after a hyst. Since yiour overies still produce eggs, but that was all and I had gotten used to it during the 5 years that passed.
Well ..... In october of 2004 I had some severe pain and was rushed to emerg. The doctor on call thought it was my appendix and prceeded to book surgery to remove it. In doing so he ordered blood work which included a pregnancy test. My test came back saying that I was just over 5 months pregnant ( I guess they can tell by how high the count it ...Mine was 4500 ). I was rushed to a different hospital who specialized in ob cancer .... It had to be a tumor because I had a hyst and could never get pregnant ....... Right !!!!! :?
I, in fact did have an ectopic pregnancy, in my right tube. The "mass" as they called it, was the size of a cantelope. I had internal bleeding and my tube was twisting. The Dr. Later told me I was very lucky as it was so close to rupturing which can be fatal. How I asked ???
My Dr. Told me that two things can happen, a tube can be sewn into the vagina leaving an opening or in my case a hole was left either by not being sewn up properly or by my incision not healing closed properly. Leaving just enough room for one of the little fellas to get though, find a tube and swim on up at just at the right time !
When I looked back, I did have the symptoms of a pregnancy, I just ignorded them and thought ....Ok....So my breasts are sore and I am gaining weight .... I put the sore breasts off to still having my overies and my weight gain I blamed on someone else :wink: why not eh ?
If you have symptoms, because unfortunatly when you have overies, you are not sterile, get them checked out ! It could be a tumor, cysts, or as in my case a pregnancy. As rare as they are it happens ....Trust me !! In doing research I have found that there are only 12 reported cased world wide .... Guess I got to be lucky 13 !!
Good luck to you all and keep me posted onhow you are ..... But please .... Don't feel silly going to the dr and asking ... It can happen .... Get it checked out !!

Lisa (howie4)

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Re: Pregnant After Hysterectomy
Posted: 09-22-05 10:42am

can we get back on track please? Fatfamily has plenty of her own threads, how come this one has turned into one about her as well? We need to stick to the subject here....

lesliepei wrote:
just to clarify people....Nobody is being mean, it is just physically impossible for a woman to get pregnant after having a hysterectomy. Surgeons close off the opening of the vagina to the abdominal cavity at the end of the operation, so the vagina is now a closed sac which is open only at the outside. Even if somebody stuck a woman who had had a hysterectomy with a needle through her abdomen containing fertilized eggs and injected her with them (which we honestly doubt would ever happen - even hollywood hasn't done that yet), it would be like a 0.00000000000000001% chance of the fertilized egg ever developing into anything....Truth is, chances are probably less.


There is a condition called pseudo-paresis in which the woman so strongly believes she is pregnant that her body shows all symptoms....Enlarging belly and all!!


Like I said before, I am not trying to be mean, but just stating scientific, medical facts.
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How Else Do U Think This Thread Turned Into One About Her???
Posted: 09-22-05 13:40pm

'can we get back on track please? Fatfamily has plenty of her own threads, how come this one has turned into one about her as well? We need to stick to the subject here.... '



sorry i've read all the posts on this thread and I have to say that what u said above was the stupidist question ever put on this site!.
If u name a thread 'pregnant after hysterectomy', on a site that at the moment has most people on here are debating about whether fatfamily is a liar or whether it is actually possible that she is pregnant after a hysterectomy!! I think its inevitable that everyone will use this thread to continue talking about her and sharing their opinions!. You cannot tell us all that u didn't think for one moment it would turn out like this!

Try making a thread about a which pain relief is best during labour for example if you don't want everyone to talk about fat family :d

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