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Q: Baby Question!!!
asked by: wife2jason_mom2ryley on October 3rd, 2005
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Okay...I would post on the baby question and answer forum but no one ever answers when I post there (i guess it's because no one's ever on there). Anyways, i'm going to post here hoping to get some input. Okay, my baby ryley (boy) is a little over 2months old and weighs 15lbs. (yeah I know, big boy!!!) his doc said that his weight is fine though!!! He is a pretty good baby during the day but he always wakes up about every two to three hours every night fussing and hungry. I never get any sleep and it's driving me crazy!!! I'v heard that once you start giving baby cereal he sleeps a little longer. I'm dying for atleast 4 hours of un-disterbed sleep!!! So my question is, do you guys think it would be okay to give him a little rice cereal in his bottle with his formula or mixed with breastmilk?? He is just as big as most 4month old babies..So i'm thinking it will be fine, but I want to know what you guys think!!!

Thanks,
teresa
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nancyms
replied on October 3rd, 2005
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I think it is better to wait on the food until he has or is growing teeth.

I've heard that cereal or any type of food may cause babies allergies if given to early.

Nancy
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BabyGirl05
replied on October 3rd, 2005
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I thkink you shouldn't feed him everytime he crys. Try to comfort him back to sleep. Also rice and if he's not ready for it might not digest the best way. Babycenter had this story, "the best sleep advice you never heard". It's not up anymore because it was a story for the month of sept. But I saved it here it is: a lot of reading but it might help.

Newborns: sleep deprivation 101
although newborns have a penchant for sleeping up to 18 hours a day, they do it in maddeningly short bursts around the clock. Here's how to get your little rip van winkle to put in a few of those hours (preferably in a row) during the night.

Put your baby to bed when she's drowsy, not fast asleep
this is a tall order, especially for breastfeeding moms, but master the timing and you'll score some much-needed sack time. Babies who drift off on their own are more apt to fall asleep more quickly and learn how to soothe themselves to sleep easier, says kim west, author of good night, sleep tight. West is a social worker in annapolis, maryland, as well as a professional sleep consultant who has helped more than 2,000 families nationwide soothe troubled sleepers.

Here's her advice: starting when your newborn is 6 to 8 weeks old, create a sleepiness scale from 1 to 10 — 1 is full-throttle and 10 is out cold. Wait until your baby hits number 7, and lay her down to sleep. Less-vigorous arm and leg action along with diminished sucking power (from nourishing to soothing) are both reliable signs she's nearing sand land.

Try not to look your baby in the eye
many babies are easily stimulated. A loving look from you can take them from tired to wired faster than you can say, "uh oh." seeing your baby brighten at your glance is heartwarming at noon and discouraging at midnight.

Parents who make eye contact with sleepy babies inadvertently encourage them to snap out of their sleep zone, says claire lerner, director of parent education at zero to three, a nonprofit that promotes the health of infants and toddlers. "the more interaction that takes place between you and your baby during the night, the more motivation they have to get up."

so what should you do instead? Lerner suggests keeping it low-key. If you must enter your baby's sleep space at night, don't hold her gaze, chitchat, or serenade her with your favorite rolling stones hit. Keep your gaze on her belly and soothe her back to sleep with a soft voice and gentle touch.

Win her over to the dark side
"lights push your child's biological 'go' button," says elizabeth pantley, author of the no-cry sleep solution. On the flip side, darkness triggers the brain to release melatonin, a key sleep hormone.

If your baby sleeps more during the day than at night, help her to know the difference. During the day, allow plenty of sunlight into the house. Put your baby down for daytime naps in well-lighted rooms (unless she has trouble with naps). To induce nighttime sleepiness, install dimmers on the lights not only in your baby's room but also in other rooms where you both spend a lot of time. Lower the lights up to two hours before bedtime in the evening to set the mood. Nightlights are okay, but choose small, dim ones with a bluish tone (the vivid yellow and bright white varieties are more stimulating).

During the night, if your child wakes up, don't turn on the lights or carry her into a brightly lighted room. The shift from dark to light tells her brain it's time to rise and shine. Instead, soothe her back to sleep in her bedroom. If early morning sunlight prompts your child to wake too early or if she has trouble napping in the afternoon, install room-darkening shades.

Cut your tie to the baby monitor
a parent who jumps at every squeak transmitted over the baby monitor will teach her child to wake up more often, says pantley. Instead, time your entrance so that you go to your child between the moment you know for sure she's awake and the moment she escalates into a full-blown howl. Waiting a few minutes gives her a chance to soothe herself back to sleep. And stepping in before a meltdown means that you'll catch her before she's too worked up to fall back asleep.

Either way, it's okay to turn down the sensitivity on your baby monitor. Set the volume so you'll hear her when she's distressed but you won't be privy to every gurgle. Eventually you may just want to turn the thing off.

Relax the rules on diaper changes
resist the urge to change your baby every time she wakes up — you'll just jostle her awake even more. Instead, dress your baby in a high-quality, nighttime diaper at bedtime, says pantley. When she wakes up, sniff to see if it's soiled and change only if you must. For sleepy nighttime changes, nothing wakes a baby faster than a cold, wet wipe. Try substituting a warm washcloth.


Toddlers and preschoolers: just when you thought it couldn't get worse
it's hard to believe, but by the time your child celebrates his second birthday, he has spent more time asleep than awake. On average, toddlers need 12 to 14 hours of sleep a day, including naps. (preschoolers do fine on 11 to 13 hours.) don't be alarmed if your child vetoes the two-nap routine. At around 18 months, it's not unusual for a child to wean himself from two naps to one. But cutting his siestas in half means nighttime sleep gets promoted to highest priority.

Keep the sleep routine short and sweet
an elaborate, multifaceted variety show — a bath, three books, two songs, and a back rub — can stretch on ad nauseam. "before you know it, your well-intentioned sleep routine turns from transition time to playtime for your child," says mary ann lofrumento, a pediatrician and author of simply parenting: understanding your newborn and infant. If your child fights bedtime, keep the focus on sleep and don't let your child call all the shots.

Lofrumento suggests that parents of troubled sleepers keep the routine no longer than 15 minutes. (longer is fine if your child falls asleep easily.) fifteen minutes should be all it takes to put on pajamas, read two short books, and say goodnight, she says.

Connect the dots
"one of the biggest mistakes parents make is not connecting a child's sleep and his daytime behavior," says pantley. She attributes many of the behaviors labeled as terrible twos to signs of sleep deprivation. "fussiness, whininess, fighting with siblings — all have their root in the lack of a good night's sleep." her advice? Move up bedtime. (see our next tip, "take back the night.")

take back the night
exert control and set an early bedtime, preferably between 7 and 8 p.M., pantley says. "these kids aren't looking at the clock to see what time it is. They're simply waiting for someone to tell them it's time for bed." so pick a time and stick to it.

Practice climate control
sure, 72 degrees fahrenheit sounds comfy for a bedroom. And that's true — when you're awake. But the ideal sleeping temperature is between 60 and 70 degrees fahrenheit. That's because sleep follows on the heels of a sharp drop in body temperature, which is also why a bath before bed helps kids nod off faster. The bath gets your child nice and toasty and then the cool room causes his body temperature to drop, which brings on sleepiness.

So, nudge the thermostat down at least an hour before bedtime. If you're forgetful, install an automatic thermostat. Program it to drop in the evening and rise in the morning, and your child just might follow suit.

Wake kids at the same time every day
a consistent wake-up routine is just as important as a regular bedtime. Children should get up at roughly the same time every day (give or take 30 minutes). Fight the urge to let them sleep in on weekends, says pantley. "what we are doing is asking our children to live in two different time zones — a weekday zone and a weekend zone," she says. "as a result, they get perpetual jet lag."

just because kids don't benefit from a little extra shut-eye on the weekends doesn't mean you won't. If weekend mornings are your only time to make up lost sleep, trade morning duty with your partner so that your child stays on track.

Babycenter report.
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san54
replied on October 3rd, 2005
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Baby Question
I have two children 30 and 26. My son who is 26 wanted to eat every two hours. He would fall asleep or just stop sucking. Do not give him any food until he is older. My doc told me to feed him more, but when a baby doesn't want it what can you do. Be patient, it will get better. I would sleep when he slept usually on my chest. :wink:
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 4th, 2005
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I already read that article. Thanks though!!! It really wasn't that helpful for me. I gave him rice cereal last night. Just a spoonful mixed with his formula. He slept about 2 hours longer then normal...And I enjoyed those two hours. Thanks for all the advice but I thnk i'm going to give him the cereal at night!!!

Thanks,

teresa
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lil_blaze2004
replied on October 4th, 2005
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My son is like that too. He is 3 1/2 months and weighs 20lbs. At 6 weeks his doc told me to start him on cereal, I didn't though cause they're enzymes in their tummy can't digest it properly. It has nothing to do with teeth. Don't put cereal in his bottle, it is bad for them (so i've been told by the ped, nurse and baby nutritionist). If you want to give him a lil bit, give it to him from a spoon. I have started giving my son cereal once a day in the mornings (from 3 months on but I did give it to him once in a while from 2 months on). I was doing it before bed at first but it made no diff in his sleeping/waking habits (well it did for the 1st 2 nights and then nope!). "they" say not to start cereal till 4 months but they also say that every baby is diff and some need more substance. My son knows when he goes in his highchair what is coming and gets sooo excited.

Make sure your baby poops properly after their cereal, to make sure their digesting it properly. As for not feeding him when he wakes, untill a baby is 6 months old, if they wake up and act hungry feed them!!!! My son was waking every 1-3 hours to eat up untill about 2-3 weeks ago, now he wkaes up every 5 hours between 7pm-5am, I feed him and he goes back to bed. Also remember babies go through growth spurts around 3 months so he might just be growing. Feed him when he's hungry, he will grow out of it.
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 5th, 2005
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Hey guys!! I gave him rice cereal again last night and he slept for 6 and an half hours straight!!! It was so wonderful!!! Just wanted to let you all know my good news!!! Lol!!!

Teresa
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JuneBugzMamazExpectin
replied on October 5th, 2005
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I think that its a great idea. 8 weeks old isn't too bad to put a spoon full in the bottle. It digests slower, and keeps them full for a longer time.

As long as you're not feeding him bowl fulls, I think you'll be fine. It already sounds like you are!

Thank god for sleep! ;]
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 5th, 2005
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Thanks so much junebugzmom!! I needed that support. So how old is your little junebug??

Teresa
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oh and a-men to the thank .God for sleep!!!
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JuneBugzMamazExpectin
replied on October 5th, 2005
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My june bug is 7. But i'm expecting #2 in feb.

I'm 23 wks and I can't sleep now as it is ;[ so I guess this is my practice! Ugh...
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 5th, 2005
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Oh!! That's great congrats!!! I was the same way when I was preggy, I got up to pee so many times during the night. Are you having a boy or a girl?? Or do you know yet??

Teresa
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JuneBugzMamazExpectin
replied on October 5th, 2005
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Nope not yet ;[

we have an appointment for a 4d ultra sound coming up soon. Then i'll know for sure!

My last baby didn't sleep thru the night until 4 months. I hope this one if different! Lol
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 5th, 2005
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A 4d!!! Wow...You are going to know exactly what your child looks like b4 he/she is even born!!! I don't think i'd want that!!! Lol!!! Would you like a boy or girl?? I hope this one sleeps better for you too!!! Did you give your last cereal early??


Teresa

is junebug a girl or boy??
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JuneBugzMamazExpectin
replied on October 6th, 2005
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wife2jason_mom2ryley wrote:
a 4d!!! Wow...You are going to know exactly what your child looks like b4 he/she is even born!!! I don't think i'd want that!!! Lol!!! Would you like a boy or girl?? I hope this one sleeps better for you too!!! Did you give your last cereal early??

Teresa

is junebug a girl or boy??


the sono will be at about 25 weeks, so the baby is still really skinny then. My girl got hers and it looked a lot like a typical baby. But yea if it has a honken nose or a wierd chin I guess i'll know! Lol

i want either really. I've gone thru my phases of wanting one or the other, now i've settled for the fact that i'm just having another baby, and that's cool for me :)

cereal for my son junior was given early as well. He was a 9lb baby, so he ate a lot. My mother and grandmother told me about the cereal. I asked the doctor (being a paranoid mama) and he said that it was fine.

This was when my son was about 8 wks, it was a life saver.

He got it twice a day. Mid morning feeding, and right before bed.
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ash18_baby1
replied on October 6th, 2005
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......yep
I think it'll be ok too. My mom did it with my baby brother (he's 2 now) and it helped him sleep. Just make sure its not thick so the baby wont choke. Put it in one of those feeder bottles or cut a small slit in a bottle nipple so the baby can get the cereal. Good luck:)
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The cereal iz already a little sweet, but we added a little sugar. When they get a little older (say 6 mths or 5 1/2) u can substitute formula for juice or mix some sweet baby food in w/ the cereal w/ a little formula for flavor. Hope this helps:)
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fatfamily02
replied on October 6th, 2005
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I was writing like mad and the window just disappeared huh???

Anyway I have 3 children and 2 grandchildren, I am helping raise. My son and my grandbaby both eating cereal in the bottle and by spoon at 2 months, the other 3 by three months. Science tells us do it this way or that, but I say we listen to the baby and each others issue and we go much farter. Wic, pediatricians say , not yet too young, no juice, but I found mine to tolerate and enjoy cereal juice and fruit baby food very young and all mine were satisfied and not whiney. If they are hungry they are whiney and too much milk makes them full bloaty and sometimes throwing up from too much. So if I were you id listen to baby, but be cautious of what you tell pple in authority on it for they will condemn you for it. If you know what I mean.

My children are 24, 21, 19, granbabys 2, 1 and all are completely healthy and happy.
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 6th, 2005
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Thanks ladies!! That makes me feel much better. Ryley (my son) slept 6 and a half hours again last night. Yay!!! I put two spoon fulls in his bottle and he loves it. He normally eats out of one of those playtex bottles with the slow flow nipple but for the cereal I use a regular bottle along with a regular nipple. It comes out much faster but he does fine with it except for it sometimes runs out of the corners of his mouth!!! Lol!! He is such a little piglet. Well thanks again girls!! You are all great!!!

Teresa
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lesliepei
replied on October 6th, 2005
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Just so you know, introducing cereal before at least 4 months of age really increases the chances of a baby developing food allergies. They can develop these allergies because their little bodies don't know how to react to these big food molecules and their immune systems over-react. I would really talk to your doc or public health nurse about this. I know sleep is a huge luxury, but is it really worth the possible risks? Sorry to be the "stick in the mud".

Leslie
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
replied on October 10th, 2005
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I'v really thought about all of this and I think I made the right decision. Anything you do or don't do always has some risk involved. My baby is a big boy. Is is already as big as most 5 month olds so he will do fine with the cereal. He weighs 15lbs and the reason he wakes up every 1-2 hours is because his tummy doesn't get full from just the breast milk or formula...He needs something more. Thanks for the advice though!!

Teresa
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pitablond
replied on October 11th, 2005
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Have you tried giving him a full 8 oz bottle of formula? My cousin has a 1 month old and she was told to add a tsp of cereal with her sons feedings. He is doing fine. I would talk to your doc though first.
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