Right, i'm really sorry for making yet
another thread about fat family, but i've
had this niggling doubt in my head since I
first read that fatfamily was pregnant
without uterus.
I've always defended her right to have the
benefit of the doubt, as none of us here
are experts bout this, theres no proof
that she is or isn't, whether it is
possible or impossible that a woman can
get pregnant without uterus etc........
But......... Unfortunatly, the fact that
she is clearly seeking attention every
second of the day, using any opportunity
to tell anyone whos listening that shes
pregnant with uterus, even on threads that
haven't been started by her or have
absolutly no connection with her
condition. This really makes me doubt
that she is pregnant, because the way I
see it, is that if she was and knew she
was, there would be no need to constantly
seek acceptance from everyone else.
Saying this, if she is lying I really do
believe that she isn't consciously lying
but that she really believes herself that
she is pregnant, if this is so i'm really
sorry for her, but she needs help.
Just to add to my doubts, I was having a
really good look at the u/s, and they look
sooo similar to mine when I had 2 ovarian
cysts. If u read in the illuminated
columns there one 'left' and one 'right',
I assume these to be her left and right
ovary, which cleary show what seem to be
sacs in both, u can read the dimentions
too, if she was pregnant, she certianly
wouldn't have 1 sac in her ovary let along
1 in each sac, so I think the only thing
these u/s shows is that she was a ovarian
cysts in both ovaries.
If there was a sac outside the ovary, at 7
weeks u would be able to see an embryo, as
I had a normal u/s at 6 weeks+3 days, and
I have fotos showing a sac and the embryo
inside.
Am sorry fatfamily, but I think you've
pushed people too far, throwing all this
is peoples faces so much that its not a
simple case of believing in miracles or
whatever it is etc, but a case of weighing
up all the proof for and against u.
Thats my opinion, from a non expert, mommy
to be, logical minded 24 yr old woman, who
would like to believe but who is
constantly finding it more difficult to
do.
Xxxxxxxxxxx
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angel6932
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Aug 2005 Posts: 788 Location: US
Posted: 10-09-05 10:47am
I love her to death and have definded her
several times but I am like you I am tired
of hearing about it..
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Re: My Opinion! Posted: 10-09-05 10:53am
annarella
wrote:
right, i'm really sorry for
making yet another thread about fat
family, but i've had this niggling doubt
in my head since I first read that
fatfamily was pregnant without uterus.
I've always defended her right to have the
benefit of the doubt, as none of us here
are experts bout this, theres no proof
that she is or isn't, whether it is
possible or impossible that a woman can
get pregnant without uterus etc........
But......... Unfortunatly, the fact that
she is clearly seeking attention every
second of the day, using any opportunity
to tell anyone whos listening that shes
pregnant with uterus, even on threads that
haven't been started by her or have
absolutly no connection with her
condition. This really makes me doubt
that she is pregnant, because the way I
see it, is that if she was and knew she
was, there would be no need to constantly
seek acceptance from everyone else.
Saying this, if she is lying I really do
believe that she isn't consciously lying
but that she really believes herself that
she is pregnant, if this is so i'm really
sorry for her, but she needs help.
Just to add to my doubts, I was having a
really good look at the u/s, and they look
sooo similar to mine when I had 2 ovarian
cysts. If u read in the illuminated
columns there one 'left' and one 'right',
I assume these to be her left and right
ovary, which cleary show what seem to be
sacs in both, u can read the dimentions
too, if she was pregnant, she certianly
wouldn't have 1 sac in her ovary let along
1 in each sac, so I think the only thing
these u/s shows is that she was a ovarian
cysts in both ovaries.
If there was a sac outside the ovary, at 7
weeks u would be able to see an embryo, as
I had a normal u/s at 6 weeks+3 days, and
I have fotos showing a sac and the embryo
inside.
Am sorry fatfamily, but I think you've
pushed people too far, throwing all this
is peoples faces so much that its not a
simple case of believing in miracles or
whatever it is etc, but a case of weighing
up all the proof for and against u.
Thats my opinion, from a non expert, mommy
to be, logical minded 24 yr old woman, who
would like to believe but who is
constantly finding it more difficult to
do.
Xxxxxxxxxxx
the ultra sound ruled out ovarian cysts
most definately---
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-10-05 02:25am
If the sacs are not cysts, what are they?,
there are 2 one on the left and one on the
right? Both with different
measurements.
If they were gestational sacs, then it
would mean 2 things, your carrying twins (
unless it is only 1 sac taken from
different angles, but that doesn't explain
the 2 different sets of measurements), and
your pregnancy would have been
confirmed!.
What did the doc say? What are they??
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BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
Posted: 10-10-05 08:15am
annarella
wrote:
if the sacs are not cysts,
what are they?, there are 2 one on the
left and one on the right? Both with
different measurements.
If they were gestational sacs, then it
would mean 2 things, your carrying twins (
unless it is only 1 sac taken from
different angles, but that doesn't explain
the 2 different sets of measurements), and
your pregnancy would have been
confirmed!.
What did the doc say? What are
they??
don't bother asking her about doctors.
They're too "unqaulified" in her opinion.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 10-10-05 10:08am
annarella
wrote:
if the sacs are not cysts,
what are they?, there are 2 one on the
left and one on the right? Both with
different measurements.
If they were gestational sacs, then it
would mean 2 things, your carrying twins (
unless it is only 1 sac taken from
different angles, but that doesn't explain
the 2 different sets of measurements), and
your pregnancy would have been
confirmed!.
What did the doc say? What are
they??
its says on the report dominant folicle,
which is the same as corpus luteum in
women who have all female organs. It
is proof that the ovum escaped like 5
weeks before that just like I said,.
But in me they call it dominant follicle,
in you they would say corpus luteum, cuz
you still have uterus. It is the same
thing--it is where the egg comes from.
After the egg is "not" fertilized the hole
closes over and new cycle begins, never
closed over, new cycle has not begun.
In you that would mean you did not have
your period, and did not ovulate again
following month and that ovum is
fertilized(pregnant)--in me it means I
never did ovulate again, and ovum is
fertilized(pregnant).( if not fertilized
it would close over and you would have
your period, but me I dont have periods.)
the ultra sound tech was freaking!!!
You can tell by what she says, and dr dint
even see the resullts, although he says he
did.
I have my u/s report in my packed stuff
so I cant get it out. And it is
possible it is twins, havent seen anyone
since 10 weeks and he did nothing but make
me hurt and send me home. I actually
walked out before discharge cuz he wouldnt
listen to me!!! Last u/s was 5 weeks
after conception, would be 7 weeks lmp--if
I had a period>
drs are not so perfect(well, in my opinion
they have always failed me, and have
always been mis-guided when it comes to my
body. Long before this happened.)
i had heart pains for 9 years be4 the dr
found it, after full cardiac arrest. I
currently have a critical back condition
involving my spinal cord and genitalia,
making stimulation absent and impossible
to hold my urine--nerves cut off. In
most people its emergency situation, but
since it was workers comp I got no
treatment. Then found dr who knows
whats up he says 3 surgeries in one to fix
me. This condition started aug 2001.
My legs are 1/2 paralysed. No
perineal nerve signal to my brain--one dr
said walking paraplegic. My third
pregnancy in 1984 they saw me at 5 weeks
preg, did pelvic and urine test for preg
and said I wasnt preg. Gave me a shot
to make period start. Did not start
period, cuz I was indeed preg--just like I
told them. Birthing my first son they
left me in pushing pains for 2 hours,
without any assistance. When they put
me in stirrups baby came instantly.
Veins were popping out in my neck--mom
about killed the Dr. I was over 2
weeks late, and in labor 36 1/2 hours
total. So needless to say I put no
trust in them, I tried for years to trust
drs, found out the only thing different
from me and them is--they have done more
studying. They do not let themselves
be led by god most of the time, because
their brains get in the way. But
journals say---but my experience
says---what about --there are no set facts
in science--all pple are different and
every case is unique just like us humans
are unique. What about they should
listen to us as an expert on our own
bodies. We should know just a little
about ourselves.
Sorry so long
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-10-05 13:05pm
'its says on the report dominant folicle,
which is the same as corpus luteum in
women who have all female organs'
when they found 2 cysts, the docs
explained that my cysts had been formed
because the 'folicle' hadn't closed up,
resulting in a period that lasted max 1
day.
'after the egg is "not" fertilized the
hole closes over and new cycle begins,
never closed over, new cycle has not
begun. In you that would mean you did not
have your period, and did not ovulate
again following month and that ovum is
fertilized(pregnant)--in me it means I
never did ovulate again, and ovum is
fertilized(pregnant).( if not fertilized
it would close over and you would have
your period'
so if the follicle doesn't close up, it
doesn't necessarily mean that your
pregnant! And that the egg has been
fertillized , sometimes it just happens,
and turns into a cyst. This explains the
pain too, I had quite a bit of pain when
the doc pushed my stomach.
My sister in law had missed her period
only to find out that she had a cyst the
size of large mandarin, for the same
reason.
'and it is possible it is twins,'
your not happy with having one miracle
baby, u think it could be twins??, so your
saying that maybe 2 eggs (1 from each
ovary) got fertilized at the same time,
and that maybe your having twins??, surely
that would mean u have 2 babies floating
around your stomach?????
That would be the only explanation,
because to have 2 babies in one sac would
mean that only 1 egg had been fertilized
and had divided into 2 (which normally
results in identical twins), which would
be impossible if u had released 2 eggs.
C'mon, I believe that doctors can be
wrong, closed minded etc etc, but I think
you've let your imagination run away with
yourself, and your seeing something that
isn't there.
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 10-10-05 13:14pm
Thanks I appreciate that annarella--you
have straightened out my mind I am free
now!!!
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BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
Posted: 10-10-05 13:23pm
fatfamily02
wrote:
thanks I appreciate that
annarella--you have straightened out my
mind I am free
now!!!
huh?
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-10-05 13:25pm
Huh?
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justacanadiangirl
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 1803
Posted: 10-10-05 13:28pm
She's just pissed cuz ur not defending her
anymore.
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-11-05 02:34am
Think I might have hit a nerve, or even
hit the truth!
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justacanadiangirl
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 1803
Posted: 10-11-05 03:12am
Lol looks like it eh? Well I agree with
what u said, if that means anything to
u,... Lol
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-11-05 04:50am
Lol
i just had to get that niggling thought
out, everyone else seems to be giving
their opinion so I thought I may aswell.
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Jeffocat
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 4 Location: Texas
Posted: 10-11-05 05:03am
The bottom line is you cannot be pregnant
without a uterus. One could have a tubal
pregnancy but it would die shortly after
fertilization or rupture the fallopian
tube. I don't mean to be rude, but I
think fat family is pulling everyone's
leg.
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BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
Posted: 10-11-05 05:55am
jeffocat
wrote:
I don't mean to be rude,
but I think fat family is pulling
everyone's
leg.
i don't think she's lying to us. I think
she does serisously indeed beleive she is
pregnant....
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annarella
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Jun 2005 Posts: 117 Location: italy
Posted: 10-11-05 06:33am
Yeh I agree with you , I do think she
believes she is, unfortunately!
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 10-11-05 07:17am
Now i'm not saying she would do this but
what if she's some crazy who tells
everyone she's pregnant and then goes and
takes a baby from somewhere. That's
whats been at the back of my mind.
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justacanadiangirl
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Nov 2004 Posts: 1803
Posted: 10-11-05 12:32pm
Me too jess.... That's what i've been
worried about.... It happens...
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lisaboo
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 108 Location: colorado
Baby Out of Uterus Posted: 10-11-05 14:38pm
I was watching discovery health something
about amazing survivals or something like
that. Anywho, this lady got pregnate with
twins. One of the eggs made it to the
uterus , the other didn't. It attached to
her splean, or outside of uterus, I can't
remember. They had to do a c-section at 8
months because the baby outside of uterus
was killing whatever it attached to. So I
know it is possible to carry outside of
uterus. But without uterus i'm not sure.
I do know that there is not enough room
for a baby to just float from under ribs
to under belly button and such. I asked
many people and docs and have looked on
web. If it has attached to something
there would still be the sac with amniatic
(sp) that has an umbelica cord that is
attached to something. Baby can't be free
swimming in there. Sorry.
