Okay can we please have a civil
conversation/debate regarding abortion..
And peoples input on how they feel. Also
can we please introduce ourselves so the
new people/faces know who they are talking
to and what there beliefs are???
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 10-16-05 13:15pm
Hello!! I'm jenna and pro-life!
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-16-05 14:18pm
Hello I am izzy and I choose life.
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shoneen
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Posted: 10-16-05 15:33pm
I'm shoneen pro-choice
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-16-05 15:36pm
So shoneen what do you choose
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-16-05 16:34pm
So she is choosing for other people,
choosing for women,
look she said she is pro choice, so she
believes she has a choice, so do I i
choose life, what did she choose?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 10-16-05 21:24pm
I'm eiri, and i'm pro-choice, because I
believe a woman should have a choice as to
what she wants to do withher body. If she
wants to give birth, yay for her! If she
wants to abort, yay for her! If she wants
to adopt, yay for her! It's her choice,
her body.
You have the right to chose not to
abort, and to make that your own policy
for your own life. You do not have the
right to impose that desicion upon others.
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shoneen
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Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 147
Posted: 10-16-05 23:13pm
While I thank you for answering for me, I
believe I can answer for myself. I am
pro-choice. I believe it is a womans
right to choose if she wants to have an
abortion or not. I choose choice, that
is what I choose. I choose freedom of
one's morals, feelings, rights, needs, and
wants.
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paganangel
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Posted: 10-17-05 05:33am
I'm pro-life. I'm mixed about how I feel
towards abortion for rape/incest or
medical reasons...But I lean more towards
100% pro-life no exceptions..
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-17-05 06:43am
"i am pro-choice. I believe it is a
womans right to choose if she wants to
have an abortion or not. I choose choice,
that is what I choose."
thats like saying you can either cook your
tea or eat it cold what do you choose, I
choose to have the choice, that means your
never going to eat, to have a choice means
you have a choice to make
legally you have a choice what do .Y.O.U
choose, I personally have chosen life -
you want a choice, you have a choice - so
what do you choose?
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shoneen
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Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 147
Posted: 10-17-05 08:36am
I am not pregnant nor would I have an
un-wanted pregnancy so currently I don't
have to choose. However, if I got
pregnant and it was unwanted I would have
an abortion.
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-17-05 09:03am
So you choose abortion, so your pro
abortion regarding the legal choice given
to you.
I choose life for children under most
circumstances, you choose death for
children under most circumstances
i am pro life, you are pro abortion.
We are both pro choice, and have exersized
that choice, you chose abortion, making
you pro abortion, I choose life makig me
pro life.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 10-17-05 09:12am
Alright, if you want us to use the phrase
"pro-abortion" then I want you all to use
"anti-choice" since you are not
giving the woman a choice. She can not
make up her own mind in your world, as to
whether she views abortion as right or
wrong. For her, it's illegal, no matter
what she believes, no matter what may be
best for her life.
Thank you, for feeling like you have the
right to determine what my body is used
for.[/sarcasm]
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shoneen
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Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 147
Posted: 10-17-05 09:13am
You are twisting my words. I do not
choose death for any child. I said if I
had an un-wanted pregnancy I would choose
abortion. I have a child, I had her at
the age of 20, she was wanted, so me
having to decide to have an abortion was
not something I had to think about.
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-17-05 09:30am
"i want you all to use "anti-choice" since
you are not giving the woman a choice."
but I choose just suckers, I dont want to
remove the womans choice I want her to
choose to let the child live, I want her
to choose life, I am pro life not anti
choice, I myself choose to be pro life
just as you choose to be pro abortion.
"she can not make up her own mind in your
world"
legal or not we always have a choice, I
just happen to think making the wrong
choice should be punishable by law.
In fact you are being anti choice by being
pro abortion because your not giving the
child a choice. Where I am giving choice
to both parties.
"as to whether she views abortion as right
or wrong. For her, it's illegal, no
matter what she believes, no matter what
may be best for her life."
so its illegal that dosnt take away her
choice, I can choose to do drugs or not,
its illegal but I still have a choice, I
just have to pay the consiquences if I
take them and get caught, what about the
person who thinks killing black people is
right for their life are we to legalise
lynching?
"thank you, for feeling like you have the
right to determine what my body is used
for"
why shouldnt I have the right if you have
the right to determine who is worthy to
live and who is not, your being
hypocritical!!!
"i said if I had an un-wanted pregnancy I
would choose abortion"
no pregnancy - no child
pregnant - then there is a child
does abortion end the life of a child or a
pregnancy?
Answer - both!
You choose death for a child by default of
choosing to end a pregnancy prematurely
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Meandering Away
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Posted: 10-17-05 13:34pm
If we are going down that road {anti
choice and pro abortion] then it really
should be pro birth and pro abortion.As
was stated before we are all pro choice
because we all have that choice it is how
we decide to use that choice that defines
how other people look at us or assume they
know us.
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-17-05 13:50pm
Well we have take the pro choice anti
choice to its logical conclusion.
We are not anti choice we are pro life.
They are not pro choice they are pro
abortion but as you say quiet correctly
if its pro abortion then it must be pro
birth except we have the guts to take it
to its logical conclusion
allowing the child to be born means
allowing it to live = pro life
aborting the child means killing it = pro
death.
Of course some dont have the guts to
aknowledge that and wont even accept "pro
abortion" but hide behind "pro choice"
in other words
we have choosen life - now we are calling
you out to make your choice - pro life or
pro death!
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 10-17-05 13:56pm
eiri
wrote:
alright, if you want us to
use the phrase "pro-abortion" then I want
you all to use "anti-choice" since you are
not giving the woman a
choice. She can not make up her own mind
in your world, as to whether she views
abortion as right or wrong. For her,
it's illegal, no matter what she believes,
no matter what may be best for her life.
Thank you, for feeling like you have the
right to determine what my body is used
for.[/sarcasm]
i think the real issue here is how address
the topic. When I talk about abortions, I
could care less about the woman herself.
I give voice to the life inside of
her-"pro-life".
I wouldn't consider myself "anti-choice"
because i'm not trying to force the woman
to not abort. It's hard to explain. If
she chooses to abort....Fine. That's
something that she has to live with...I
can't make the choice for her.
Understand?
Now if you would be so kind....Please
explain your reasoning for not wanting to
be called "pro-abortion"....
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shoneen
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Joined: 19 Oct 2004 Posts: 147
Posted: 10-17-05 13:58pm
It's not pro-death, and it shouldn't be
claimed at pro-life, I agree in saying it
should be considered anti-choice. I am
not the one that said "hey everyone that
thinks abortion is bad, killing,
murderous, and should be illegal call
yourselves pro-life". I don't choose
death, I simply feel it is best to allow
women to have their choice. Not all
instances do I agree with a woman having
an abortion, so that doesn't make me
"pro-death" and not all instances do I
agree with a woman keeping a pregnancy so
that doesn't make me "pro-life" or
"anti-choice" it simply means that I agree
that women should have the choice to
choose what is best for them as well as
the zef.
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-17-05 14:05pm
"it's not pro-death"
what else is it then to promote the ending
of a human beings life by abortion, you
have your legal choice granted by the
government yet you continue to promote it
as a moral option, your not promoting
choice your promoting abortion - death!
You won the right to give society the
choice to have abortion or not, thats gone
history - now you have to make your choice
- to promote abortion as a moral option or
not... Like I said I choose to promote
life as the moral choice - and you eailier
in the thread choose to promote death as a
moral choice.
