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paganangel

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Judge Rules Planned Parenthood Broke the Law
Posted: 10-18-05 09:17am

Http://wcc o.Com/topstories/local_story_286073957.Htm l



summary: planned parenthood failed to follow the parental notification law. What a shock (sarcasm)....For the whole story read the link. Don't forget to decap..
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Meandering Away

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Re: Judge Rules Planned Parenthood Broke the Law
Posted: 10-18-05 10:19am

paganangel wrote:
http://wcco.Com/topstories/l ocal_story_286073957.Html



summary: planned parenthood failed to follow the parental notification law. What a shock (sarcasm)....For the whole story read the link. Don't forget to decap..



just another example of planned parenthoods unusual take on what is legal and what law they have to stick to.
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 10:22am

"we are really committed to making sure this young woman's rights are protected."

"clearly our definition is that she was a legal adult,"

first of all she isnt a "young woman" good use of language she is a "minor"

second you can protect her rights all you like, the fact of the matter is you infringed on the rights of the parents to be notified, the rights of the minor does not over ride the rights of the parents and legally she is defined as a minor, so no matter what your own personal deffiniton of this child you by giving this girl an abortion and failing to notify the parents have.

1. Broke the law

2. Violated the rights of the parents

if I were judge I would grant open compensation to the parents and imprison the head of the local and international pp
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 12:14pm

Your correct I am using the legal deffination since it helps my "cause" - but you do too, however, I rearly use "person" any more and when I do I usually refer to person a human being with full moral (not legal) status or importance - however I usually use the term "child" this should be accpetable to all since a child is the offspring of a member of the human species and since the z,e,f is the offspring of a member of the human species, it is a child.

The dictionary deffinition of child is all of these

1. A person between birth and puberty.
2. An unborn infant, zygote, embryo, fetus
3. A born infant; a baby.
4. One who is childish or immature.
5. A son or daughter; an offspring.


You see a fetus is a child
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 12:39pm

So?



It is still a child by deffinition that includes legally - and more importanty biologically.


If the law says its not a child (which they do not) and biology says it is... Well

a rose by any other name - is still a rose!
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 17:01pm

"biologically, it is a fetus."

agreed

child: an unborn infant, zygote, embryo, fetus

a fetus is a child

biologically it is a child
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 17:36pm

Child is a social term... All countries define childhood differently.

No they dont, child is a social term but it is also a biological term used to describe human offspring, child is a globally accepted deffinition of a "fetus"

"biological facts don't change."

biological fact of the matter is, from conception there is a living growing human being, call that human being a "baby" a "fetus" (medically correct) or a "child" (socially and biologically correct) it is still a human being just like you or me and all other human beings, the only differences are

1. Age
2. Growth

3. The current law that has remove their right to life.
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-18-05 17:42pm

True it lives off a food supply eaten and provided by the mother through the umbilical cord.

A child lives because it is aided by the mother, not by "living off" the mother.
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Meandering Away

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Posted: 10-19-05 04:24am

Stop responding to someone who will always be deleted,it makes the posts look disjointed and out of context
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Meandering Away

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Posted: 10-19-05 08:37am

Planned parenthood are just a bunch of lying cheating pathetic money grabbers,they have no real intrest in the woman just how much money they can squeeze out of her.
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Tazzy D

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Posted: 10-19-05 09:38am

tazzydd wrote:
cowboys wrote:
they have no real intrest in the woman just how much money they can squeeze out of her.


and yet the same loser that are lying now will be the first ones to whine when pp gives services away for free. @@


well then I guess you will be the first one there...
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Posted: 10-19-05 19:07pm

izzy wrote:
your correct I am using the legal deffination since it helps my "cause" - but you do too, however, I rearly use "person" any more and when I do I usually refer to person a human being with full moral (not legal) status or importance - however I usually use the term "child" this should be accpetable to all since a child is the offspring of a member of the human species and since the z,e,f is the offspring of a member of the human species, it is a child.


The dictionary deffinition of child is all of these

1. A person between birth and puberty.
2. An unborn infant, zygote, embryo, fetus
3. A born infant; a baby.
4. One who is childish or immature.
5. A son or daughter; an offspring.



You see a fetus is a child


only according to a dictionary. That sounds retarded but think for a moment... It means child in the sense that it is offspring of two people. It does not mean child in the sense that it is a thinking, cognicent creature. It lists that definition seperately!
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Posted: 10-19-05 19:12pm

cowboys wrote:
planned parenthood are just a bunch of lying cheating pathetic money grabbers,they have no real intrest in the woman just how much money they can squeeze out of her.


i don't pay pp anything, and they still help me... How odd.
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Posted: 10-20-05 11:00am

Yes, and I clarified myself. I relates to the post higher up that mentions "child" as a social and cultural term. That's what I was trying to say.
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-20-05 14:40pm

"only according to a dictionary. That sounds retarded but think for a moment... It means child in the sense that it is offspring of two people. It does not mean child in the sense that it is a thinking, cognicent creature. It lists that definition seperately! "


but it does mean it is a living growing member of the homo sapien species - a living growing human being, a child.

Thinking, cogniecnt creature, what about someone in a coma kill them too?
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Posted: 10-24-05 22:42pm

izzy wrote:
"only according to a dictionary. That sounds retarded but think for a moment... It means child in the sense that it is offspring of two people. It does not mean child in the sense that it is a thinking, cognicent creature. It lists that definition seperately! "


but it does mean it is a living growing member of the homo sapien species - a living growing human being, a child.



Thinking, cogniecnt creature, what about someone in a coma kill them too?


yeah, after several months. Did you know that the longer someone is in a coma, the less chance they have of ever coming out of it? After a couple of months, your chances are near astronomicaly impossible. I'd want someone to pull the plug on me, after 6 months.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 10-24-05 23:36pm

No, you do not kill them, you release them into a better world, you pull the plug, my limit would be less than 6 mo. I do not even want a feeding tube, no sort of life support, let me go, I have seen enough of that!!!!!!
Dr. K'vorkian is still innocent in my eyes!
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Tazzy D

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Posted: 10-25-05 07:55am

I still think that parents have the right to know what is going on with there child....
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