Misleading Claims About Abortion Posted: 10-19-05 14:27pm
Misleading claims about abortion . . .
Claim: "it's my body." answer: a woman's
body does not have two beating hearts, two
blood types, two heads, four eyes, four
arms, and four legs. A pregnant woman and
her baby have all this and more. And what
about when she's pregnant with a male
baby? That's not her body . . . It's a
unique, baby boy growing in her womb.
Claim: "it's only a fetus." answer: fact:
a fetus is a human being..... Fetus --
literally meaning "little one" in latin --
refers to the pre-born baby after eight
week's gestation. Webster's dictionary
says a fetus has, "passed the early stages
of development and attained the basic
final form prior to parturition (birth)."
some people seem to have forgotten they
once lived and grew in the womb as a
"fetus." would it have been okay if they
had been aborted when they were "only a
fetus?"
claim: "abortion is legal, therefore, it
must be right." answer: the u.S. Supreme
court has been wrong on many major
decisions and then overturned itself.
Remember the dred scott case on slavery?
If the supreme court suddenly declared
child abuse or rape legal, would that make
them right? Would we ignore such
injustices and do nothing to protect the
innocent? Claim: "freedom of choice" -
it's a woman's "right to choose!" answer:
how can anyone claim they have the
"freedom" or "right" to kill an innocent
baby? The only "choice" in abortion is
between a dead baby and a live baby.
Furthermore, advocates who defend this
"choice" are not consistent. Why is it
only in the case of abortion they argue
that "choice" should be absolute? Using
the same rationale, wouldn't people have
the right to "choose" to use drugs ("it's
my body") or the right to "choose" to
practice prostitution? Humane societies
don't tell people they have a "freedom of
choice" to kill their own children. There
are right choices and wrong choices. In
recent history, millions of innocent
people died because of terribly wrong
choices which slave owners and nazis
thought they had a "right" to make.
Terrible choices have led to dead slaves,
dead jews, and dead babies. Claim: "the
government shouldn't interfere." answer:
our declaration of independence declares
that each of us has an "inalienable right
to life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness." thomas jefferson defined
government's role, "the care of human life
and happiness, and not their destruction,
is the first and only object of good
government." government should protect all
of us, especially before we are born, when
we are most vulnerable. Claim: "poor
women need public funds (your tax money)
to pay for abortions so they're not be
discriminated against." answer: the rich
can readily afford cocaine and
prostitutes. Should taxpayers also be
forced to buy these for the poor? The
bottom line is that abortion is the worst
form of child abuse. It kills a baby and
wounds the mother for life. If the poor
cannot afford abortions, they and their
children are blessed not to become victims
of this bloody holocaust. Claim: "i'm
personally opposed to abortion, but I
would not impose my morality on others."
answer: what about other moral issues like
rape, robbery, child abuse, arson and
homicide? What if politicians said, "i'm
personally opposed, but . .. ." they'd
be kicked out of office on the spot! What
about slavery? If abolitionists had
bought this "personally opposed, but"
argument, some states could still be
saddled with slavery today. Every law
ever passed sets standards which reflect
someone's (or a body of lawmakers')
morality. A politician who won't vote
against something he/she is morally
opposed to doesn't have an ounce of
honesty in his/her blood. Claim: privacy
- "in 1973, the supreme court said women
have a "constitutional right" to privacy
on abortion." answer: the court has been
wrong before and it is wrong on this
decision. Nobody has a right to injure or
kill another person "privately." does a
"right to privacy" also protect parents
who abuse, molest or kill their born
children in the "privacy" of their home?
Why not? What about their "privacy?" how
is it that roe v. Wade determined that
unborn children are not "persons" even
though they have the right to inherit
property, the right to be protected from a
drug-addicted mother, the right not to be
killed by a drunk driver, and many other
rights. Some states have entire sections
of law outlining crimes against unborn
children in which they are protected from
negligent or willful harm or death from
conception on. Claim: "dred scott and roe
v. Wade aren't comparable." answer: yes,
they are comparable in that the supreme
court was wrong to deny inalienable rights
in both cases. The dred scott decision of
1857 upheld slavery as legal. That was
wrong. It decreed that black people are
the private property of the slave owners.
This was a grave error made by the supreme
court, denying african-americans one of
their most fundamental human rights -- the
right to liberty. In roe v. Wade, the
supreme court erred again by denying a
whole class of human beings (pre-born
babies) the most fundamental right -- the
right to life. Claim: "if legal abortions
are banned, women will resort to dangerous
back alley abortions." answer: in 1972,
the year before the supreme court
legalized abortion, a total of 39 women
died from illegal abortions, according to
the u.S. Centers for disease control.
Dr. Bernard nathanson, co-founder of
naral (national abortion rights action
league), admits his group lied and
inflated the number of women who died from
illegal abortion when testifying before
the u.S. Supreme court in 1972: "we spoke
of 5,000 - 10,000 deaths a year. I
confess that I knew the figures were
totally false . . . It was a useful
figure, widely accepted, so why go out of
our way to correct it with honest
statistics?" claims that abortion became
safer for women after it was legalized
fail to acknowledge that large numbers of
women are physically injured or killed by
so-called "safe and legal" abortions every
year. The book "lime 5" documents 230
cases of women injured or killed by
abortion or sexually assaulted by their
abortionists (see page 18 and www.Prolife.Com for
details). Former abortion provider carol
everett states, "in the last 18 months I
was in business (everett ran four abortion
centers in texas in 1982), we were
completing 500 abortions monthly and
killing or maiming one woman out of 500."
claim: rape & incest - "abortion
should be legal to end a pregnancy
resulting from rape or incest." answer:
it's important to remember that the child
conceived in rape, or incest, is no less
human than any other child. Dr. David
reardon (www.Afterabortion.Com) points out
that abortion is the very worst "solution"
that can be offered to the pregnant woman
at this crisis time in her life. Abortion
compounds her problems. Abortion makes
her an aggressor against her own innocent
child and it never makes the painful
memories of rape go away. If a small
child were killed in the street by a
negligent driver and it was later
determined that the child had been
conceived in rape, would the driver be
held less responsible? Is that child's
death less tragic? Claim: "it's a woman's
issue. Men should have no say." answer:
every baby has a mother and a father. Why
should fathers be denied their parental
rights? Men have a natural instinct to
defend the innocent and the weak. More
than half of america's pro-life movement
is made up of women who want men to join
their cause. Many women became pro-life
after discovering their abortion was a
terrible mistake. They know how painful
abortion is from first hand experience and
many ask men to get involved so fewer
women and babies will become victims of
abortion.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3717 Location: , va
Re: Misleading Claims About Abortion Posted: 10-19-05 14:31pm
tazzydd
wrote:
as a moderator, you should
know that plagerism is illegal. Don't
want to have to get you
banned.
im not finished.. Im posting this so
that all people who want to be lazy can
read it for themselves.. Now this is
correct info for you since you always want
to complain about proof......... Or is it
that you dont like proof??? Well here is
all the proff that has been asked for...
And again I posted the link where all the
info came from if anyone is interested in
reading the facts
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 10-19-05 18:52pm
Oh, I thought you were trying to tell some
jokes, tazzy d. Oh, just pro-life sites,
how boring!
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Izzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 10-20-05 03:28am
I dont see any of you showing how the post
is in error, until such time as you can
show it is in error you shouldnt pass
judgement just because its from a pro life
site, its a pro life site because what
tazz posted is true not because it is
lies.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3717 Location: , va
Posted: 10-20-05 12:45pm
Well to answer you.. I guess you dont
like the truth, and if you would have gone
to the website page.. You would have seen
the little boxes.. All well go for
yourself and look at the boxes at the top
and click on it..
Btw.. I dont see you speaking on anything
in the post.. Thats facts for your butt
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