Well,"edited" it. I guess I shouldn't
walk across the street then, you know...
Theres a chance I could get hit by a car,
and all. :roll:
this post was edited due to profanity...
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BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
Posted: 10-24-05 18:03pm
I think its good for woman to know what
they're really getting themselves into.
It's a very scary thing to find out your
pregnant and can seem like theres no other
way out of it if your not ready for a
child. Some might not think of the
future and the emotional consequences that
can occur.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-24-05 18:30pm
kourtney08
wrote:
well,"edited" it. I guess
I shouldn't walk across the street then,
you know... Theres a chance I could get
hit by a car, and all. :roll:
this post was edited due to
profanity...
got your sarcasim, but I didnt get what
or why they should have.. Or what the
goods are on abortion.. If you want to
roll roll on
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 10-24-05 18:47pm
Their are problems w/pregnancy, especially
those that are unwanted, miscarriage,
stillborns, you cannot blame it all on
abortion.
Stress can drive a person insane too.
Any snow yet kourtney?
A lot of the pas has been their long
before the abortion took place.
Their are a lot of females that have had
abortions that have no problem with it.
I did not have to de-cap that one, just
like most of them.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-24-05 18:51pm
sandyallen
wrote:
their are problems
w/pregnancy, especially those that are
unwanted, miscarriage, stillborns, you
cannot blame it all on abortion.
Stress can drive a person insane too.
Any snow yet kourtney?
A lot of the pas has been their long
before the abortion took place.
Their are a lot of females that have had
abortions that have no problem with it.
I did not have to de-cap that one, just
like most of
them.
well just like abortions and people all
links are different sorry that you where
having such a hard time with the other
one, but everyone else figured it out. If
you need help just let me know I will be
more than happy to direct you to it
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 10-24-05 19:25pm
No problem here, as I said, I found it
after the ads. But thanks anyway!
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Tylanas
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Posted: 10-24-05 23:16pm
I believe the "fact" (i don't know how
biased this site is. When considering bc
pills, I went to several sites, and found
just as many diffrerent reports as to how
effective the bc pills were) that scared
me thos emost is that 1 out of 20 ru486
abortions are "incomplete", leading to
possible infection and bleeding.
Though my mother either had d&e or
d&x, and she was fine... She was 4
months in.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-25-05 07:52am
Like I said... There is always a risk no
matter what you do.. But there is more of
a risk when you have an abortion...
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 10-25-05 09:20am
Theres more of a risk when you have
abortion, than anything else in the
world?
And, are we not allowed to say stuff
lmao, I thought we were adults. I didn't
cuss someone out.
This board has really gone down hill,
that's sad. I see all these locked posts,
all these deleted posts, it's quite sad
really. This isn't a debate board. It's
a "say what I want to hear or i'll delete
your post and edit it" board.
Back to lfb I go! :)
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msrosie
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Posts: 362 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: 10-25-05 11:45am
tazzy d
wrote:
like I said... There is
always a risk no matter what you do..
But there is more of a risk when you have
an
abortion...
more of a risk than what? Certainly not
gestation, as that is many times riskier
than first trimester legal abortion.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-25-05 14:10pm
msrosie
wrote:
tazzy d
wrote:
like I said... There is
always a risk no matter what you do..
But there is more of a risk when you have
an
abortion...
more of a risk than what? Certainly not
gestation, as that is many times riskier
than first trimester legal
abortion.
not always!!!!!!!!
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-25-05 14:13pm
kourtney08
wrote:
theres more of a risk when
you have abortion, than anything else in
the world?
And, are we not allowed to say health
question? lmao, I thought we were
adults. I didn't cuss someone out.
This board has really gone down hill,
that's sad. I see all these locked
posts, all these deleted posts, it's quite
sad really. This isn't a debate board.
It's a "say what I want to hear or i'll
delete your post and edit it" board.
Back to lfb I go!
:)
that is your opinion.. Just like
abortions are your opinion... ... And
this forum has only gone down hill for the
people who have made it that way...And
that is your opinion as well.. As long as
you respect other peoples opinions then
there is no problem.. Debates are all
about peoples opinions ( but in an adult
like manner)
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 10-25-05 14:59pm
tazzy d
wrote:
msrosie
wrote:
tazzy d
wrote:
like I said... There is
always a risk no matter what you do..
But there is more of a risk when you have
an
abortion...
more of a risk than what? Certainly not
gestation, as that is many times riskier
than first trimester legal
abortion.
not
always!!!!!!!!
"risk" is a question of likelihood and
statistics. So, if you look at the risks
of a negative health outcome of legal
first trimester abortion, compared with
carrying a pregnancy to term and
delivering, the risks are very much
smaller.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-26-05 08:30am
tazzyddd
wrote:
tazzy d
wrote:
but there is more of a risk
when you have an
abortion...
proof please. The abortion didn't
affect you, did
it?
yes it did.. Effect me that is why I had
a hard time with my preg. And that is one
of the resons why they where born
premature
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-26-05 08:34am
tazzyddd
wrote:
jlee77
wrote:
she said it heavily affected
her mentally, remember?
That's worse than anything
physical.
not in my opinion. She was able to
reproduce fine. And some women suffer
ppd after childbirth, so they suffer
mentally too. Doesn't stop you from
demanding they abort future pregnancies to
stop their mental
angst.
actually get your facts straight before
using my personal life.. Just becuase you
copied my name doesnt mean you know my
life history..
I was not able to reproduce fine I had
alot of problems and had to take meds..
I suffered mentally and still do
sometimes.. And a persons mental angst
you will never know becuase all humans
react different to anything
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Tylanas
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Posted: 10-26-05 09:17am
My mother got pregnant fine after her
abortion; in fact she got pregnant as
easily as she had before the abortion.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 10-26-05 11:23am
And once again.. Every human being is
different.. You have some who will never
be able to have a child again, you have
some who will have problems conceiving,
and you have some who will have no
problems.. Once again it is all based on
that one human being and statistics..
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 10-26-05 15:04pm
jlee77
wrote:
anyone here that says
abortion won't possibly affect you
physically is just ignorant.
and anyone who ignores the damage that
carrying to term and giving birth does to
your body is far more ignorant.
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 10-26-05 15:25pm
jlee77
wrote:
I had not one spec of
damage done to my body. Not even a
stretch mark. So you can stop anytime
now with the
silliness.
then you are very lucky. My mother is
about to go into hospital to repair her
prolapsed uterus. But anyone considering
getting pregnancy should be aware of the
ill effects:
these are the normal, frequent or
expectable temporary side effects of
pregnancy:
-- exhaustion (weariness common from first
weeks)
-- altered appetite and senses of taste
and smell
-- nausea and vomiting (50% of women,
first trimester)
-- heartburn and indigestion
-- constipation
-- weight gain
-- dizziness and light-headedness
-- bloating, swelling, fluid retention
-- hemmorhoids
-- abdominal cramps
-- yeast infections
-- congested, bloody nose
-- acne and mild skin disorders
-- skin discoloration (chloasma, face and
abdomen)
-- mild to severe backache and strain
-- increased headaches
-- difficulty sleeping, and discomfort
while sleeping
-- increased urination and incontinence
-- bleeding gums
-- pica
-- breast pain and discharge
-- swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint
pain
-- difficulty sitting, standing in later
pregnancy
-- inability to take regular medications
-- shortness of breath
-- higher blood pressure
-- hair loss
-- tendency to anemia
-- curtailment of ability to participate
in some sports and activities
-- infection including from serious and
potentially fatal disease (pregnant women
are immune suppressed compared with
non-pregnant women, and are more
susceptible to fungal and certain other
diseases)
-- extreme pain on delivery
-- hormonal mood changes, including normal
post-partum depression
-- continued post-partum exhaustion and
recovery period (exacerbated if a
c-section -- major surgery -- is required,
sometimes taking up to a full year to
fully recover)
these are the normal, expectable, or
frequent permanent side effects of
pregnancy:
-- stretch marks (worse in younger women)
-- loose skin
-- permanent weight gain or
redistribution
-- abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
-- pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as
many as 35% of middle-aged former
child-bearers and 50% of elderly former
child-bearers, associated with urinary and
rectal incontinence, discomfort and
reduced quality of life)
-- changes to breasts
-- varicose veins
-- scarring from episiotomy or c-section
-- other permanent aesthetic changes to
the body (all of these are downplayed by
women, because the culture values youth
and beauty)
-- increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
-- loss of dental and bone calcium
(cavities and osteoporosis)
these are the occasional complications and
side effects:
-- hyperemesis gravidarum
-- temporary and permanent injury to back
-- severe scarring requiring later surgery
(especially after additional pregnancies)
-- dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially
after additional pregnancies, and other
pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women,
including cystocele, rectocele, and
enterocele)
-- pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension,
the most common complication of pregnancy,
associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7
- 10% of pregnancies)
-- eclampsia (convulsions, coma during
pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
-- gestational diabetes
-- placenta previa
-- anemia (which can be life-threatening)
-- thrombocytopenic purpura
-- severe cramping
-- embolism (blood clots)
-- medical disability requiring full bed
rest (frequently ordered during part of
many pregnancies varying from days to
months for health of either mother or
baby)
-- diastasis recti, also torn abdominal
muscles
-- mitral valve stenosis (most common
cardiac complication)
-- serious infection and disease (e.G.
Increased risk of tuberculosis)
-- hormonal imbalance
-- ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
-- broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
-- hemorrhage and
-- numerous other complications of
delivery
-- refractory gastroesophageal reflux
disease
-- aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases
and conditions (e.G. Epilepsy is present
in .5% of pregnant women, and the
pregnancy alters drug metabolism and
treatment prospects all the while it
increases the number and frequency of
seizures)
-- severe post-partum depression and
psychosis
-- research now indicates a possible link
between ovarian cancer and female
fertility treatments, including "egg
harvesting" from infertile women and
donors
-- research also now indicates
correlations between lower breast cancer
survival rates and proximity in time to
onset of cancer of last pregnancy
-- research also indicates a correlation
between having six or more pregnancies and
a risk of coronary and cardiovascular
disease
these are some less common (but serious)
complications:
