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lewiscarey

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Gallbladder Symptoms? With Heat Sensations
Posted: 10-27-05 09:50am

Hi! I'm a new member with hopes of finding some answers. I have read through quite a bit of everyone's symptoms but have not come across anyone who has had sensations of heat. I have had pain, sometimes more like a horrible cramp in my ruq. Sometimes I feel a burning, tingling sensation. Other times, depeding on what I eat, I have a full blown "hot flash" sensation throughout my upper torso that can last up to 15 minutes. Normally I contend with pain, heat, softend stool, gas, burping, and indigestion. I have tried to eat less fatty foods, but doesn't seem to help. I have lost 20 pounds in the last 6 months. I also struggle with anxiety- but I don't know if the anxiety is bringing this on or is a physical problem bringing on the anxiety. I had an ultrasound on gallbladder- everything was normal. Any suggestions?
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Posted: 10-30-05 17:51pm

It sounds like something that needs to be investigated further. I would ask your dr to refer you for further tests, if the symptoms are still bad
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HaredresserD

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Posted: 11-01-05 01:08am

I was constantly 'flashing'... I am on hormones anyway... But before my gb was removed... I was having what I thought were hotflashes... Now that it's gone...Those are too... They seemed diff than my reg hotflashes anyway... I'm thinking it was a low grade fever from my inflamed gb... For years my white count was elevated... Two docs said 'something is inflamed or infected'...But would never investigate to see what was...I'm thinking it was gb related cause i'm way better and i'm now almost 8 mo post op... :)

my ultrasound, ct scan and hida were normal... Go figure! :x gb's can be major pain in the butts! And they don't have to have stones to be a pain!

Hope you find out what is wrong with you and soon! I know what you are going through... :(
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abowers003

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Gallbladder
Posted: 04-05-06 09:48am

I am a new member and my doctor thinks I am having gallbladder trouble. I am having a burning sensation in the right side and wake up some nights feeling nauseated. Sometimes I have to take something for the nausea it is so bad. I had a hida scan done yesterday and a sonogram. I have no gall stones but the gallbladder doesn't seem to be emptying the way it should. I too have night sweats and blamed it on premenopausal hormones. Does anyone know if there is treatment besides surgery to correct the hormonal response of the gallbladder?
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lynnelee

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Burning abd pain
Posted: 05-27-08 11:00am

I have a sensation of heat, too...you are the 1st person I have found to share that symptom. It has been in my left side but now also right. I call it "baking bread". It must be inflammation but I am probably about to go to the hospital to see since it is getting worse. I'll let you know if I learn anything. I am a fairly new celiac patient, & also have IBS & antibodies for IBD & UC. I have been compliant on the gluten-free diet since diagnosed about 1 year ago, but the burning has not resolved.
With my abrupt new symptoms of right upper quadrant cramping pain & abd distention I suspect gallbladder or liver problem, now. I do not think anxiety can cause this...maybe, get your gallbladder/liver checked, too. A lot of doctors love to blame anxiety if they cannot easily diagnose someone. Hope you get well. Lynne
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HaredresserD

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Posted: 05-27-08 15:51pm

I'm still doing much better after my gb was removed.. still have to take Nexium for reflux though... it took about two years for my body to adjust to living without a gb... all that 'flashing' flushing feeling has gone cept when I'm sick with a sore throat or flu... I still believe my gb was causing all the horrible symptoms that weren't 'normal' gb symptoms... I would just make sure it's gb stuff.. try staying on a PPI like Nexium or Acidphex or one of the others for a while to see if it's more reflux/GERD issues...

I've always wondered if I have celiac or a mild form of it... my cousin has it BAD .... can you tell me what your symptoms were??? my cousin said her main symptom was severe fatigue.... I get that from time to time.. but it's way better since the gb came out....doc diagnosed me with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and Fibro... phhttttt
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lynnelee

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Celiac symptoms
Posted: 05-31-08 11:04am

Celiac symptoms can be none, mild or severe. The only FDA approved tests are done by Prometheus Labs. You can also be biopsy negative & still have it & be very ill. Trying to diagnose yourself with the elimination diet is hard, so if there is any suspicion of it, the tests are best, IMHO!

My symptoms- I felt like I'd been kicked in the stomach have had crippling pain & exhaustion most of my life. If I accidently ingest gluten, now I suffer stomach pains, again. I have Fibromyalgia, Chronic Fatigue, Irritable Bowel/Bladder, chronic Headaches, Osteopenia & bursitis...all of which resulted, I believe, from ingesting gluten for 39 yrs. I am 40, now.

Words of warning if you try the elimination diet. I went on all-raw vegan diet a couple of times just because I instinctively knew food was making me ill. But, not understanding about gluten/Sprue I only made it on this strict diet a few weeks at a time with mild or no improvements. (I'd sprout wheat or have a little whole grain toast). Anyway, returning to a full, normal diet twice resulted in 3 month long nightmare migraines...I am now left with mild brain atrophy, visual "phosphenes" & a usually milder but chronic headache probably due to the fact you become more sensitve to gluten after being off it awhile. So, get tested but always be vigilant about staying off gluten if you are Celiac to save your brain, etc!

I've been gluten-free almost 1 yr & have a great improvement in my stomach pain. But, nothing else consistantly has improved, yet. Neurodamage can be permanant or take yrs to recover.

Hope this helps!
Lynne
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lynnelee

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Burning abd pain/RUQ cramp/GB?
Posted: 05-31-08 11:13am

Well, my RUQ U/S was neg, of course. Still having LUQ/RUQ cramp/burning...also flank/back/right shoulder pain. Didn't eat for a couple days, now on fruit & veggies & ibuprofen. I'll try to ignore it, unless it gets worse. I read IBS can cause this. I am so disgusted running after doctors who still probably think I am just nuts. Maybe, if I just eat nuts & berreis I'll heal. Or, just really go nuts.

If I end up learning anything helpful I'll post.
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jcottle11

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To Lewiscarey
Posted: 05-31-08 12:18pm

Well, we don't think you're a nut. GI problems can sometimes be difficult to assess if they present themselves in an uncustomary manner early in the process. The old adage that all roads lead to Rome is applicable here.

If you have an anxiety disorder, then IBS is often found to co-exist in such cases and the symptoms can sometimes vary. While you mention right shoulder pain, GI inflammation typically produces pain under the right scapula, often referred to as the shoulder by some patients. If the pain is actually in the right shoulder(deltoid) area, then it's not likely to be associated with the GI problem. The flank and back pain is typically the consequence of a condition known as splenic flexure syndrome and results from a sort of kink if the intestines caused by a pocket of air or gas. It can be quite painful, but usually passes within several minutes.

Diet can also be relevent here in that in attempting to avoid fatty foods, you can alternatively be irritating the GI tract by restricting your diet to fruit, veggies, nuts, etc. I'm also not certain why you're taking ibuprofen, but this would likely lead to exacerbation of the problem rather than anything curative. Anti-inflammatories are generally errosive to the lining of the GI tract and responsible for GI bleeding in cases where taken long-term.

Depending upon your age, several circumstances can cause your symptoms and some of which need to be ruled out. If weight loss is being experienced because of food avoidance, then it's less likely of a concern. Since you've been evaluated by your primary physician, it's also of some comfort that the weight loss has been reviewed. At any age, if you're consuming any type of proton pump inhibitor medications designed to reduce stomach acid, and/or if you're 50 years of age or older, then a B12 deficiency can cause the symptoms you describe. A lab test to determine methylmalonic acid, homocysteine and B12 levels is advisable under the above conditions.

If you've traveled recently, even if not, several pathogens can be responsible for chronic GI symptoms such as those described. Giardia Lamblia is sometimes contracted by folks who drink cold stream water when vacationing and results in flatulence and more predominantly, diarrhrea. While rare, if the travel history is positive, then testing may be warranted. Heliobactor pylori is a bacteria found to be associated with ulcer disease and can indeed produce severe GI symptoms. A simple breath or blood test can confirm its presence.

Gastritis is also a consideration and can sometimes be the consequence of a viral infection, or what some people call the "stomach flu." In the absence of other symptoms, however, it is less likely.

Irritable Bowel Syndrome is the dysregulation of water reuptake at the colon and can produce extremely painful symptoms in some patients. It can either take the form of predominantly constipation, diarrhea or a mixed type or presentation. It usually produces a great deal of gas, bloating, belching and flatulence, but symptoms vary from patient to patient. It is a diagnosis of exclusion, so in the absence of identifiable causes, IBS is usually a good choice, particularly where anxiety disorder is also present.

Several things you can do to limit the effects of IBS is to take great care in consuming liquids. Drink most beverages after a meal rather than during and use a cup rather than a bottle. Many anxiety patients unwittingly perform something known as aerophagia, or the swallowing of copious amounts of air as they eat or drink, sometimes in the absence of either. This air becomes trapped and often enters the duodenum and intestines where it can apply a great deal of pressure to the upper abdomen. Eat small meals and avoid caffeinated products.

If symptoms persist, it is advisable to seek evaluation from a gastroenterologist to determine the underlying cause. Also remember that information from the internet should never be construed as medical advice, nor supplant the need to be directly evaluated by your doctor.

Best regards,

J Cottle, MD
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lynnelee

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Thanks Dr. J Cottle, MD
Posted: 06-24-08 20:47pm

Thanks for your reply. The GI doc will test me for Giardia & do other stool tests...I did work at a Veterinary office for almost 8 yrs, as a tech but I have told all my docs that. We saw a good bit of spirochete & protozoal infections reading fecal tests & nobody wore gloves back then except in surgery. Not to mention all the dirty needle sticks cleaning syringes to autoclave. Yikes, I know I sound stupid but I was only 15 y/o when I started & that is how they trained us. Amazing I made it to 40 y/o.

Also, the GI will do colonoscopy & is checking more extensive labs especially pancreatic. He mentioned a GB test, but I forgot to ask what.

Thanks, again...wish I had read this before my appointment, today. I have to go out of town, despite this & will get back with everyone. Will talk with him about the breath test, too.

I am having severe, I guess unrelated bladder pain, too. Fun, fun...& off to Texas in an 8 hour car trip. Just keeps getting better.
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Posted: 06-27-08 22:09pm

I am back. I had one episode of the most terrible pain I have ever had in my RUQ after about 1 hour asleep, while in Texas. It woke me up like a metal pipe sticking into me. I had trouble breathing & got up...took 600 mg Ibuprofen. I fell asleep again...surprisingly quickly but had taken 50 mg Benedryl. Remember Richard Pryor's skit about his heart attack??? That was the kind of pain I had. Since then, it is still just crampy.

BTW- I take Ibuprofen for bladder, headache, stomach, joint, bursitis, arthritis & bone pains. I take as little as possible, but I know it is bad & doing me harm. Unfortunately, 5 mg Lortab BID is all I can tolerate & that is not enough pain med. I just found out accidently that Benedyl helps my IC or bladder pain...I'll post about that on the correct board.

Have to run.
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alleyq

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Twisting, wrenching pain
Posted: 07-11-08 15:49pm

I've been having stomach pains for the last couple of weeks and in the last week they've become worse. It's a klenching twisting pain in my stomach above the belly button and it lasts for about 2 mins...then goes away for 10-15 mins. and then back again. I find that if I lay on my back the pain isn't as bad but when I stand up, it hurts even more and I feel like I can't stand up straight. I get these crazy hot flashes with the pains as well as neckaches, backaches and headaches. Could it all be related? I will be going to the doctors but if it's just an ulcer type symptom I'll treat it myself. If any one can relate and knows what's going on, please let me know! thanks! Alley
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lynnelee

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Re: Twisting, wrenching pain
Posted: 07-16-08 08:22am

alleyq wrote:
I've been having stomach pains for the last couple of weeks and in the last week they've become worse. It's a klenching twisting pain in my stomach above the belly button and it lasts for about 2 mins...then goes away for 10-15 mins. and then back again. I find that if I lay on my back the pain isn't as bad but when I stand up, it hurts even more and I feel like I can't stand up straight. I get these crazy hot flashes with the pains as well as neckaches, backaches and headaches. Could it all be related? I will be going to the doctors but if it's just an ulcer type symptom I'll treat it myself. If any one can relate and knows what's going on, please let me know! thanks! Alley


Yikes...whatever it is it does sound self-treatable. Lynne Lee
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