Stress Or Something Worse? Posted: 11-04-05 15:23pm
(sorry this is so long...)
ok, so here is my problem: my marriage has
hit a rough patch and it feels serious.
But, i’m not sure and feel the need to
get others’ perspectives on this
(especially from women). Given our
social circumstances, an ingrained sense
of stoicism in both of us, and the shame
of being exposed for not being the perfect
couple, it is difficult to approach those
around us. (we are also transplants with
no really good friends close by.) so,
i’m going to post this in several
locations to see if I can’t get some
useful info/advice.
She is 35, has a high-paying career in the
car business, has a work ethic of biblical
proportions and always had a huge capacity
for withstanding stress without having to
employ techniques to cope. She is
gregarious and charming, able to win
people over instantly, but has never had
many close friends. She is methodical
and practical, spending much time trying
to get all things, including our life, in
order. In many ways she is the strong
one: talking sense in dark times, keeping
me from doing something rash, managing the
details of life.
I am 35, run our business, which was
started 18 months ago and is increasingly
successful with bright prospects.
Despite this occupation, I am eccentric
and creative and until about 4 years ago
was destined to be a college professor.
I was making great progress on my
dissertation and then was diagnosed with
thyroid cancer, which was treated easily
by removal of one lobe. The event seemed
to trigger profound, radical but
insidiously gradual emotional-intellectual
changes. I truly believe my intelligence
declined considerably and I have often,
although not consistently, displayed
symptoms of depression and anxiety. I am
not dysfunctional and, in fact, have
thrived from the perspective of others
although I have a great deal of grief
associated with my lost path in life. (i
still maintain hope for an intellectual
reawakening).
Up until a few weeks ago, I thought our
marriage was great. We have sex
regularly, all of it good, some of it
great. We are athletic and young for our
age, adventuristic but overworked. We
show each other affection and communicate
fairly well, although stress levels
occasionally lead to overheated tempers.
(we are not chronic arguers and violence
is unthinkable.) we are classic suburban
but strong-willed dinks, although we had
always assumed we’d eventually get
around to having kids.
Beginning a few weeks ago, we started
getting into arguments with a different
quality. She displayed a thoroughly
uncharacteristic viciousness. We have
always argued about things, acts, and
events, but during these 3 fights, she
seemed to have a real problem with me as a
person. On each occasion, she had been
drinking…she is a moderate wine
drinker…i do not drink more than one or
two at a time and then only rarely.
After passions had cooled, we discussed it
and she told me that my unhappiness (which
is real but not at all related to my
marriage…it is hormonal/physiological)
is causing her to be unhappy. Moreover,
she believes I cannot be happy until I
return to what I was intended for
intellectual pursuits. We then both
agreed that is was time to get serious
about my glandular condition and I have
agreed to tell my doctor of the
psychological issues and ask for
aggressive treatment. The goal here is
to try to reawaken the old me to make me
happier so I am not making her unhappy.
I don’t doubt the truth of this…we
both agree we don’t want to divorce,
have continued to show love and intimacy,
and have had several meaningful follow-up
discussions. I also realize this will
help me enormously and do accept the axiom
that you can’t make others happy if you
are not happy yourself.
But, I don’t think this is the end of
the story. I think she has some
“issues” of her own, although I am
sure I am a primary contributing factor.
I believe extreme stress afflicts her.
To illuminate this contention, I have to
outline the last 18 months of our lives.
About the same time we were opening our
business, my wife’s job at her old
company was eliminated. She was deeply
hurt by this and was disturbed that it
took several months to find another, not
as good job. (i think her self-esteem was
crushed and has yet to recover.) she soon
quit the job (lots of scumbags not enough
compensation) took another job only to
quit it after engaging in some heavy duty
“office politics” and to come out the
loser. With these defeats and a lagging
business, we decided it would be a good
idea to sell everything and relocate
somewhere else. So she got a job in s.
Fla. And we tried a commuter’s marriage
while I put our affairs in order. We
took turns travelling so that we did not
let a single weekend go by without seeing
each other. During that time our
business began to pick up and the lure of
south florida weakened a bit, so we
decided to reverse course. We both
concluded that it was not a good
arrangement, although she was showing
growing signs of problems while
away…obvious signs of stress and
proclamations of misery at the physical
separation. As luck would have it, about
two months ago she was offered a job back
here, she took it and started about a
month ago. So everything should’ve
been peachy. It’s an excellent job,
likely to fulfill many of her needs once
filled by the original job. The problem
is that her melancholy has not abated.
There is one more piece to the puzzle: a
few of months ago, her mother was forced
to move in with us. I always knew she
was a difficult person to get along with,
but I now knew she is a malevolent beast.
She is rude, abrasive, insensitive, and
selfish. She has not contributed as a
member of our household and barely
conceals her desire to get as much from us
as possibly while contributing as little
as possible. I try, with considerable
success, to minimize conflicts between her
and i…i avoid contact, refuse to
acknowledge her provocation’s, etc.
But, there are unavoidable frictions and
my wife seems to act as a diplomat when
her mom and I have issues and, perhaps
more importantly she and her mom argue at
least once a night, usually because of
something small but justified (i.E. Like
leaving a cereal dish under her bed) which
then leads to rage by dear old mom, who
obviously feels persecuted.
So, what I think is that my wife has been
subjected to an enormous level of stress,
which has only continued to build since
she arrive home. And, I suspect she may
be near the end of her stamina. What I
need to know is if anybody has experienced
something similar. Is it typical for
stress to trigger feelings of marital
dissatisfaction; do stressed women display
depression-like symptoms; is it likely
that she is depressed? (we are not the
kind of people who would say “yes” if
asked such a question); what has helped
women get through such periods of life?
How likely is it that she has some deeper,
darker problem with our marriage?
We are actively trying to improve matters.
I am trying to quietly remove stresses
from her life, including little nuisances
as well as taking the necessary steps to
reduce the burden I place upon her by
treating my condition. We have decided
to remove her mother from our home by
buying her a condo…my wife was ready to
kick her out but we decided on a more
humane option. We are actively arranging
our lifestyle to allow for more sleep,
better food, more exercise. I only hope
we are able to turn the pressure cooker
down.
I am also haunted by the thought too much
damage may have already been done. We
both say we want to fix things, but both
agree that we can’t go on being unhappy.
I’m sorry this is so long and I hope
the core concerns are not lost in the
detail. I appreciate any insights.
Thank you.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 11-04-05 17:22pm
Maybe you should both sit down and tallk
to a marriage counselor.
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Morning_Glory
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 207 Location: NE Ohio
Posted: 03-14-06 00:46am
Boy that was alot to read and take in.
Any chance of you and your wife taking a
vacation together, just the two of you?
Even if its just taking a weekend trip
someplace. Leave the work talk, family
talk at home, go someplace and just talk
about each other, how your feeling, what
you like about each other, etc.
If a weekend away isn't going to work, try
for a day, one day of just the two of you,
leave the cell phones, work and other
issues at home, just the two of you get
out together.
As for improving your intellect since you
seem to feel that you've lost it, try
reading books, any kind of books.
Reading should stimulate your brain and
increase your mental and intellectual
abilities. Even if its just a good non
fiction it will help.
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lil_mo_7622
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Mar 2006 Posts: 11
Posted: 03-19-06 12:27pm
I think the get away is a great idea. I
don't think she has dealt with all the
stress and it's still there building until
an argument starts then more stress is
added. I think you both need a day at
the spa, separate and then take the
vacation.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 03-19-06 15:59pm
Good idea, go to a motel for a weekend,
get a massage, relax, talk, have a good
dinner out, relax, get to know each other,
just enjoy each other!
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ElsaSchultz
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Mar 2006 Posts: 118
Posted: 03-27-06 11:54am
Here's my opinion, for what it's worth:
i think you both are showing signs of
depression, and it's easy to see why. It
sounds like you're both very committed to
the relationship, and once you get your
own problems sorted through, things should
be back to normal. Not one ounce of me
thinks "too much damage has been done."
it sounds like you're perfect material for
marriage counseling. My husband and I
will be starting it soon. I've heard it
really helps.
I've struggled with depression before and
can definitely make you seem less
intelligent. That's probably all that is.