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Night-mares Posted: 11-04-05 17:44pm
A lady that my mother works with had many
abortions (6 a believe) and once she
settled down and got married and tried for
a baby, she couldn't get pregnant....Still
to this day, 7 years later, she has no
child. I believe this is .God's way of
punishing her for doing this. My best
friend had an aportion 2 years ago and has
nightmares everynight about having a child
and someone killing it while she lies
there helpless....Again, this just may be
.God's way of punishing. I was pregnant
with my boyfriend's (now husband) baby but
thought that it was my ex boyfriends since
we had just broke up recently. I was
very upset by this and for the first time
in my life was all for abortion. I
called and had one schelduled and was more
then ready to kill this child. My
reasons were not good ones but they were
because I am white and the father would
have been black and my family would dis
own myslef and the child, I was in love
with my new boyfriend and didn't want to
have a baby with someone else. I started
to cramp very very badly the night before
the aportion and went to the hospital, I
found out that I was miscarrying. They
did an internal ultra sound and told me
that I couldn't have been more then about
three weeks along. I was crushed. If I
was only that far along then the child had
to have been my boyfriends (now husband).
I believe that because I was going to
have an abortion just becasue of my
pathitic reasons, .God took away the child
I could have had with my husband. The
.Lord did give us a 2nd chance though, we
now have a three month old baby boy and I
thank .God for that everyday. The point
of this post was simply to share my
story...Not to start a fight.
God bless and good luck,
teresa
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Tazzy D
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Posted: 11-04-05 17:50pm
Thank you.... There are alot of people
who believe that it doesnt mentally hurt a
person at all.. Or that it doesnt effect
a person. Here is another story to tell
you that abortion does and can hurt wether
it is mental or not
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wife2jason_mom2ryley
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Posted: 11-04-05 17:57pm
You are very welcome.
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Tazzy D
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-04-05 19:26pm
stillmehere
wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley
wrote:
i believe this is .God's way
of punishing her for doing
this.
you can keep this god that hurts people
for fun.
so why should we keep you here.. You try
to hurt people for fun...
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Tazzy D
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-04-05 19:31pm
stillmehere
wrote:
tazzy d
wrote:
you try to hurt people for
fun...
nope. I tell the truth... You don't
like that and want to silence me. You
aren't about debate, just anti choice
lies.
no I think that is what you are about..
Im all about the truth on both views..
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Tylanas
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-05-05 01:05am
jlee77
wrote:
stillmehere
wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley
wrote:
i believe this is .God's way
of punishing her for doing
this.
you can keep this god that hurts people
for fun.
.God does not hurt people for fun.
We are taught lessons in life to make us
stronger. If we never hurt we would not
know what it was like to feel good.
Life isn't easy and this is .God's way of
teaching a
lesson.
please don't shove jesus down my throat
but... What if we aren't christian? I
can possibly see their being karma
relating to the first lady who had 6
freakin abortions; but that was damage
done to her body by the multiple
procedures. That damage was done to a
human by a human, and had nothing to do
with god. She was apparently not
mentally distraught over the abortions,
until she realised that her poor choice of
birth control meant she'd never be able to
have a baby of her own. I do think she
thoughroully deserves her fate.
I'm not going to psychoanalyse you or your
friend, but... Your friend sounds like
she could use someone to talk to, a
councelor of some kind. As for you, it's
entirely possible that your stress and
anxiety over the daddy of your baby may
have induced the misscarriage. Stress
can do that, especially in the early weeks
of pregnancy. I am very sorry for you in
that case, it's a genuinly sad thing to
happen to a woman who wants a child. I'm
relieved that you now have a child with
your husband :)
however, there are many women who have
just one abortion for very good reasons,
and they move on just fine, they live
their lives, and are happy. I don't want
to fight either, i'm just sharing my
opinions.
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Meandering Away
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Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 535
Posted: 11-05-05 03:45am
stillmehere
wrote:
nope. I tell the truth...
You don't like that and want to silence
me. You aren't about debate, just anti
choice lies.
you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you
on the a$$,you spew vile lies at every
turn and then panic when you are caught
and have to face the consequences,so if
you tell the truth prove what you
say,prove I go out and bomb clinics,as you
accused me of,prove all the other nasty
shite you have come out with,no you cannot
because you are the liar
and everyone knows it.
a lady that my mother works
with had many abortions (6 a believe) and
once she settled down and got married and
tried for a baby, she couldn't get
pregnant....Still to this day, 7 years
later, she has no child.
Teresa
a bit excessive...6!!! Like someone here
said, if she was able to kill six, she
doesn't deserve one....She had her chances
:o
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Tazzy D
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Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 11-05-05 18:51pm
Well the only thing that I can say is that
someone above thought she deserved to have
a child... Maybe she didnt know any
better, maybe no one ever explained to her
what she was doing to her body.. Just a
thought
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Tazzy D
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Posted: 11-06-05 12:19pm
jlee77
wrote:
tazzy d
wrote:
well the only thing that I
can say is that someone above thought she
deserved to have a child... Maybe she
didnt know any better, maybe no one ever
explained to her what she was doing to her
body.. Just a
thought
but she has not had a
child.
she has had several...
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-06-05 18:41pm
wife2jason_mom2ryley
wrote:
I was pregnant with my
boyfriend's (now husband) baby but thought
that it was my ex boyfriends since we had
just broke up recently. I was very
upset by this and for the first time in my
life was all for abortion. I called and
had one schelduled and was more then ready
to kill this child.
ah, another anti-choicer who thinks
abortion is okay when *she* has an
unwanted pregnancy.
I aborted 17 years ago and have no
negative effects - no nightmares, guilt
feelings, nada. It was the right decision
for me and all concerned.
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kellyalexander
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-06-05 20:04pm
tazzy d
wrote:
stillmehere
wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley
wrote:
i believe this is .God's way
of punishing her for doing
this.
you can keep this god that hurts people
for fun.
so why should we keep you here.. You
try to hurt people for
fun...
he doesn't "hurt us for fun" he punishes
us for our wrong doings. Abortion is
wrong. It is not the babies fault
he/she is unwanted. Even in a rape
situation, the baby did nothing wrong and
it is still a killing. Millions of
people want babies, but can't have
them....If you don't want your baby, drop
it off at the hospital or something.
Don't kill it.
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kellyalexander
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Re: Stillmehere Posted: 11-06-05 20:08pm
skar
wrote:
skar
wrote:
skar
wrote:
i am still waiting for you
to show me the so called proof you have
that I killed my
children.
still waiting
liar
<
span class="postbody">
ever watched a video of an abortion?
From the time of conception the baby is
alive and can feel. It can feel it's
little body being ripped to pieces and
taken out. You know, when they take it
out if it's still alive, they smother it
until it dies. How can you say that's
not killing?
I have a question, something off topic but
is stillmehere a woman?
Stillmehere comes across as a man to
me...... He/she doesn't seem to have a
heart..... Not saying men aren't caring,
but seem to less emotional and sensitive
to issues regarding abortion.
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Sarah1978
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Joined: 15 Sep 2005 Posts: 123 Location: NZ
Posted: 11-06-05 22:43pm
Do those of you who believe abortion is
wrong - do you put a pet animal down when
it is cruel to let it live. Before you
say that there is nothing wrong with
killing an animal, in the end it amounts
to the same thing. (just think about it
before you abuse the living hell out
me).
Back to the topic.....
I agree with you all that any women who
has 6 abortions does not deserve to have a
child. Abortion should not be used as
birth control
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Posted: 11-07-05 02:12am
cowboys
wrote:
stillmehere
wrote:
nope. I tell the truth...
You don't like that and want to silence
me. You aren't about debate, just anti
choice lies.
you wouldn't know the truth if it bit you
on the a$$,you spew vile lies at every
turn and then panic when you are caught
and have to face the consequences,so if
you tell the truth prove what you
say,prove I go out and bomb clinics,as you
accused me of,prove all the other nasty
health questione you have come out with,no
you cannot because you are the liar
and everyone knows
it.
besides when she's insulting people...
The actual facts that she posts are true.
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-07-05 02:18am
jlee77
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
jlee77
wrote:
stillmehere
wrote:
wife2jason_mom2ryley
wrote:
i believe this is .God's way
of punishing her for doing
this.
you can keep this god that hurts people
for fun.
.God does not hurt people for fun.
We are taught lessons in life to make us
stronger. If we never hurt we would
not know what it was like to feel good.
Life isn't easy and this is .God's way
of teaching a
lesson.
please don't shove jesus down my throat
but... What if we aren't christian?
I can possibly see their being karma
relating to the first lady who had 6
freakin abortions; but that was damage
done to her body by the multiple
procedures. That damage was done to
a human by a human, and had nothing to do
with god. She was apparently not
mentally distraught over the abortions,
until she realised that her poor choice of
birth control meant she'd never be able to
have a baby of her own. I do think
she thoughroully deserves her fate.
I'm not going to psychoanalyse you or your
friend, but... Your friend sounds
like she could use someone to talk to, a
councelor of some kind. As for you,
it's entirely possible that your stress
and anxiety over the daddy of your baby
may have induced the misscarriage.
Stress can do that, especially in the
early weeks of pregnancy. I am very
sorry for you in that case, it's a
genuinly sad thing to happen to a woman
who wants a child. I'm relieved that
you now have a child with your husband :)
however, there are many women who have
just one abortion for very good reasons,
and they move on just fine, they live
their lives, and are happy. I don't
want to fight either, i'm just sharing my
opinions.
you don't have to be christian. I'm not
shoving .Jesus down your throat. But
like you said....Call it karma or whatever
floats your boat, having 6 abortions
probably is not going to weigh good on
that 7th child. What did she expect.
That the baby for sure 100% be born
healthy? Yes, it's sad she lost the
child, no woman deserves that, but with
that being said there are woman that do
not deserve children and she was one of
them. She doesn't decide what baby to
kill or not and think everything is going
to be peachy keen. She has killed 6
times. In my eyes, her fate will be
more extreme in the future than losing the
7th. Everything in life has to do with
.God. I realize you don't believe in
.God and we magically appeared here
(laugh), but I believe that everything
revolves around .God.
*buzzer noise* wrong, evolution and the
big bang aren't magical, they're science.
Saying some diety came down and made a
clay model and then he "magically" made it
come to life, now that's perposterous.
Quote:
he brought us
here and that is all there is to it.
"that damage was done to a human by a
human". Are you saying that it's the
babies fault that the woman's body is
damaged???
and nooo... The doctor who aborted her
babies did it to her, and she did it to
herself by chosing to have that many
abortions.
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Re: Stillmehere Posted: 11-07-05 02:22am
kellyalexander
wrote:
skar
wrote:
skar
wrote:
skar
wrote:
i am still waiting for you
to show me the so called proof you have
that I killed my
children.
still waiting
liar
<
span class="postbody">
ever watched a video of an abortion?
From the time of conception the baby is
alive and can feel. It can feel it's
little body being ripped to pieces and
taken out. You know, when they take
it out if it's still alive, they smother
it until it dies. How can you say
that's not
killing?
i've never heard of an abortive process
that smothers the baby. Most of them
either abort it via medicine, chopping it
up in the womb, or partial birth (and by
that point it's unethical in my opinion.
20 weeks is my cut off.) none of those
involve suffocation.
And I believe it is killing, but the zef's
life is less worthy that the mother's. I
do feel we have the right as thinking
creatures to make that desicion. Hey, you
say we're better than the meat we eat? I
say we're better than an un-developed zef.
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Meandering Away
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Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 535
Posted: 11-07-05 02:45am
eiri
wrote:
buzzer noise* wrong,
evolution and the big bang aren't magical,
they're science. Saying some diety came
down and made a clay model and then he
"magically" made it come to life, now
that's
perposterous.
you can prove this can you,not being funny
but you just made an absolutist statement
about a subject that has baffled science
for years and still there is no definite
proof about how we came into
existence,religion says god,but that
leaves plenty of questions,science says
evolution yet cannot link it all
together,remember the missing link.So
sorry you cannot just say it is
preposterous for god to have made man,a
theory that has been around a lot longer
than science's view on things.
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Re: Night-mares Posted: 11-07-05 15:08pm
kellyalexander
wrote:
millions of people want babies, but can't
have them....If you don't want your baby,
drop it off at the hospital or something.
Don't kill
it.
tough chit. I'm not a broodmare for the
barren, i'm not putting my body thru the
trauma of gestation and childbirth just so
someone can have a lily white baby. Let
them adopt one of the thousands of
children needing homes. Or they can adopt
a dog or a cat from a shelter and save a
born animal from death.
