Is There Anybody Out There That Can Please Help Me Out? Posted: 11-08-05 15:22pm
Hi my name is matt and I slept with my
girlfriend on the night of tues feb 15
2005, and the doctors office said that
conception actually took place on fri feb
18 2005. I have slept with this girl
many of times (cause of birth control but
then she got off it around this time cause
she said it was too expensive) before but
on tues feb 15 2005 she honestly got
pregnant on purpose unless I am dumber
than a box of rocks. The girl always says
the same story all the time how she might
have been pregnant for like 2 weeks
already, but I know for a fact the only
chance in heaven or in hell she got
pregnant was on tues feb 15 2005. I am
asking a few questions here,
if I have my facts straight is this even
my kid?
I know she slept with somebody else while
she was pregnant is there anyway I can get
custody of the child if its mine?
Here is a sidenote, I am on the verge of a
tremendous success with a software program
for cell phones, and on sat feb 12 I
really gave her the vibe that I was
leaving her, now isnt it interesting that
somehow she ends up pregnant the very next
time we have sex (3 days later) and on the
week I am about to leave her?
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but_r_fly8
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Posted: 11-08-05 16:10pm
Hi, doctors are not always right about the
conception date. When I got pregnant with
my daughter I knew for sure that is was
one certain guys. I had been seeing
another man before the doctors said that I
had gotten pregnant and that the man I was
seeing at the time was the father.
Naturally I didn't think anything of the
other man(who is now my husband) being her
dad. My daughter is my husbands child
(we had a paternity test done) and that
means I got pregnant two weeks before the
doctors said I did and I was on my period
two weeks before that date and at that
time I wasn't sleeping with anyone. (if
you know what I mean) then when my
daughter pops out the doctor says she was
about 4-6 weeks early. Which would make
my husband not the father again. So go
figure. Doctors don't know everything!
The only way to know if this child is
yours is to have a paternity test done
when the baby is born. And just because
she is pregnant doesn't mean you have to
be with her. She should have known that
before sleeping with you. You can't
always guess a father by dates, as my
story tells.
If the child is yours the only way to get
full custody of it is to prove the mother
unfit to be a mother or if she gives up
all rights to the child. Most states will
not allow you to just take a child from
its mother. There has to be something
wrong for the child to be taken away.
Well, I hope I have helped some. Just
wait and be patient.
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diamondsz
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Posted: 11-08-05 19:26pm
Trying to get custody of a kid when your
male is extremely hard unless the mother
is deemed unfit.
Dr was wrong with conception for both my
pregnancy's, the date the dr gave you is
the average woman with 28 cycle etc etc
by the way if she request child support I
recommend getting a paternity test for
your sake cause you never know
i cant stand woman who know a relationship
is falling and scream pregnancy at first
sign of trouble, keep your head high and
watch cause she may cause more problems
than you think (i have friends who pulled
these stunts.)
wish you luck!!!! If you ever need to
talk send me a message~!
Jess
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SadMommy
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Posted: 11-08-05 19:29pm
I didnt know they could pin point a date
of conception? Wow, thats cool. I knew
they could say give or take you got
pregnant around this date.......
i cant stand woman who know a relationship
is falling and scream pregnancy at first
sign of trouble, keep your head high and
watch cause she may cause more problems
than you think (i have friends who pulled
these stunts.)
jess
those girls are completely infatuated with
these men they pin as their babies
fathers.... Don't get caught in that
web.... Test as early as you can.
I'm not saying that's what she is doing to
you, just be careful!
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not perfect
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Posted: 11-09-05 03:31am
As soon as the baby is born (which will be
quite soon since you said she got pregnant
in february), get a paternity test. She
can't lie about those. Things just sound
a bit odd with her..
As with custody.. You can't get custody
of the child just because she had sex with
someone else while she was pregnant.
There has to be good, proven reason of why
she is unfit in the courts eyes.
My bf whom i've been with for almost 3
years had a little boy who will be 4 in
june. She has put him through hell the
entire time.. Keeping his son from him is
the worst. He has tried to get custody
and has failed each time. Not because he
is unfit though. She has failed many drug
tests, even while she was pregnant,
she cannot keep a job and provide for him
on her own, lives in run down places with
family members, he constantly was at the
hospital because of diaper rash (i know
all babies get diaper rash, but this was
seriously horrible blisters all over his
little bottom and everywhere), he had
unexplained bruises on him all the time,
and she has even dated registered sex
offenders.. He still cannot get custody.
It makes me sick sometimes how the court
will choose a mother to take care of the
child instead of the father because they
believe children are better with the
mothers. Even though she constantly
b*tches to him that she can't handle him
all the time, she still won't sign over
custody to him because she wants that
$200+ a month to buy her drugs. *sigh*.
Good luck and keep us updated. =)
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diamondsz
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Posted: 11-09-05 07:35am
Omg not perfect and they havent deemed
that mother unfit!!!
I hate this I have childrens aid society
called on me for stupid reasons I dont
feed my baby, mind you shes 29lbs at 15
months, my daughter has seizures and I
dont get her medical help and last my
husband is depressed (i was up for a
promotion at work.) anyways a girl at
work mouthed off to me oh you still have
your kid, I never did anything wrong but
people didnt like that I was married at 21
with a kid.
My friend at the time was hitting her kid
and I called on her but they didnt even go
to her house, they came to mine real quick
for bs I hate the system.
If it is your kid and she doesnt let you
see the kid you dont have to pay child
support but if you want to see a kid I
beleiev there is a way around where you
provide to the child when they are with
you (buy diapers,clothes,toys and
food/formula) instead of giving cash look
into it
my friend at the time was hitting her kid
and I called on her but they didnt even go
to her house, they came to mine real quick
for bs I hate the
system.
our system is so messed up.......I knew
someone that left their child in a bathtub
alone at 3 or 4 months old, threw her
child so high in the air and hit her head
on the ceiling(9 foot ceilings) when she
was I believe under 6 months, wouldn't
feed her when she was "bad" and would
leave her in dirty diapers for hours and
hours.....The list goes on and on.
We phoned on her a few times and they
would phone like a week in advanced to
warn her they were coming to check
up.....They did nothing!!!
This is why these kids die! I understand
they have certain rules and regulations
they go by.....But man how screwed up is
that :shock:
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diamondsz
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Posted: 11-09-05 13:24pm
Its disgusting michelle
people who actually do stuff wrong get
away with it, I was terrified they told me
they may take elisa away but I had my
whole family to back me up if they tried.
I was cleared after two weeks as I gave
references for dr and hubby needed small
psych evaluation as he was on parental and
everything was cleared thank god!!!
It drives me insane how someone who never
did anything wrong had to got through two
weeks of anxious suspense and crying when
I did the best I could to raise my
daughter but to know people who hit their
kids and they still get custody!!
I never wish anyone has to have child
services called after them for no reason
but because of someone selfish and for
those of you who do have issue I hope they
give you the help you need but take away
you child in the short run.
That's sickens me jess. What they did to
you was horrible. I'm sure it felt like
you were living a nightmare..... I am so
glad you proved them wrong. The good ones
get the worst of of the system.. In my
opinion
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diamondsz
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Posted: 11-09-05 14:47pm
Trust me i'm just happy its over, hope
you never have to go through sad that some
people hate you so much they would do
anything to hurt you....
Oh well at least i'm not the only one with
my head on straight!!
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matthais321
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I Am Grateful For All the Responses From Everybody. Posted: 11-09-05 15:04pm
I am so, so, so, grateful for all the
responses from everybody.
Well I just want everybody to know and
understand that to me a child is the most
precious and important thing that can
happen in a persons life, I can only be
filled with great sorrow by realizing that
this is happening in my life by someone
who is lazy and has no ambition at all and
is actually using their own child for some
extra spending money. Even if I get full
custody of the child (if its mine) there
is no erasing this fact, and I wanted to
have kids with someone who I love one day
in the future, and not when I just turned
21. I continuously have the same thought
on my mind everyday and that is when in my
head I debate on telling the kid the truth
when its older. That you were created
because of someones greed. And to think
the first day I met her she was working in
the mall at a store called debs and I got
her # and she said "you are the one that's
going to meet my parents"
well I guess all I can do is wait to see
if its mine and I will get the suprise of
a lifetime this fri nov 11/05 because
thats when she is getting induced to have
the baby. So all I can do is wait for my
life to be over. If this girl wanted
money this bad honestly I would have given
her whatever she wanted because after this
my youth is gone and out the window, and
dismissed as yesterdays news, which now I
have no real freedom to have a life but
all I have is the biggest
obligation/responsibility in the world.
As far as the mother being deemed unfit
well I guess I will have to wait and see
how she treats the child, the only thing I
can say is that she will be living at home
with her parents and her dad is a
recovering cocaine/haronie/achol/ addict
who sometimes she wont even let me come
over the house because of him, this
usually always happens like once a month.
She will never tells me what happens (i
would be to embarressed) but one time she
had to because she said he was pushing her
mom up against the wall and then she
triend to help and he through her on the
bed and she said she kicked him in the
face. Thats all she has ever told me
about this guy and I have on been seeing
her for like 7 months when I was about to
end it, (remember this that things got
progressively strange the more I was
around these people) but she is supposed
to be going to school in jan (at some
local school) and she claims in 2 years
she will be trying to get a good job.
I only expect the worst from this girl if
I totally dont want to be with her, I can
already see it now. When we were not even
dating she said "i would never leave you
but you would have to leave me" but my my
how things have changed since she got
pregnant, first off when she told her mom
2 days after she said she found out, and
didnt even try to tell me first. But now
the statment totally changed as did her
whole attitude towards me. She said "if
you dont want to be with me that fine, and
her attitude was as such "like I run
things now and I can treat you like
whatever "
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callie8323
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Baby Posted: 11-09-05 15:12pm
Yes haveing a child is hard but it will be
the best thing that ever happend to you
children are gifts from god.
Re: I Am Grateful For All the Responses From Everybody. Posted: 11-09-05 17:10pm
matthais321
wrote:
so all I can do is wait for
my life to be over. If this girl wanted
money this bad honestly I would have given
her whatever she wanted because after this
my youth is gone and out the window, and
dismissed as yesterdays news, which now I
have no real freedom to have a life but
all I have is the biggest
obligation/responsibility in the world.
your life isn't over....It's just
beginning!
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You Can Still Go Out Posted: 11-09-05 19:30pm
Hey matt
dont worry to much, yeah party liufe
drowns abit but you can still go out :d
i'm 21 and I go out 1-2 a month with
friends and get to sleep in next day you
just have to learn how to balance.
Im pregnant with #2 and as much as im
craving a beer im only staying away cause
of complications, I really wish you luck
and trust me you can still live your life
you just modify it with a child lol!!
If she asks for money I really think you
should get a paternity test done just so
you dont become attached an then loose it
after(my friend did this to bf and it
wasnt his kid and he wanted to keep
helping out but she gave him the boot.) I
have alot of respect for you cause I
understand you dilemma
send me a message if you want to chat je
ssica_lyne2@hotmail.Com
take care and i'll give you a hopeful
congrats!!!
Jess
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 11-15-05 14:21pm
Okay, first, I know for a fact that you do
have to pay child support whether or not
you're actually able to see your child.
I know cuz my ex-bf never saw his daughter
and guess what? He still had to pay.
Now that's real. And I hate to break it
to you, but it doesn't really sound like
she was trying to keep you if you slept
with her on the 15th and she wound up
pregnant and doctors are saying conception
was about the 18th. Doctors are not
always right about conception dates, i'm
pretty sure that they're about 1 week and
5 days to two weeks off on mine. But
even if conception was on the 18th then
guess what? It could still be your kid
and here's why; your sperm can live inside
of a woman's body for up to 72 hours after
intercourse. That's one of the reasons
why we're not supposed to have sex for 3
days before our annual gyne. Cuz it
stays there. And the shocker, yeah it
lives.
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teach486
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Posted: 11-15-05 15:59pm
Just a side note here for you. Sperm can
live 3 - 5 days inside a woman. As a
matter of fact, they say that sperm that
carry the male chromosome swim much more
slowly than the sperm that carry the
female chromosome. Therefore if you are
trying to have a baby, and want a boy,
they suggest that you have sex 3 days
before you ovulate to give the male
chromosome carrying sperm a "head start"
to the fallopian tubes. So if you had sex
on the 15th, and the docs say she most
likely got pregnant on the 18th, it is
indeed possible! Look it up yourself if
you do not agree.
just a side note here for
you. Sperm can live 3 - 5 days inside a
woman. As a matter of fact, they say
that sperm that carry the male chromosome
swim much more slowly than the sperm that
carry the female chromosome. Therefore
if you are trying to have a baby, and want
a boy, they suggest that you have sex 3
days before you ovulate to give the male
chromosome carrying sperm a "head start"
to the fallopian tubes. So if you had
sex on the 15th, and the docs say she most
likely got pregnant on the 18th, it is
indeed possible! Look it up yourself if
you do not
agree.
i'm sure it's the other way around....
The sperm carrying the x chromosome(the
girl) are much bigger and carry more
nutrients which helps them survive longer.
The y chromosomes are smaller so they get
to the spot quicker but don't survive as
long.
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tigresacanela24
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Posted: 11-16-05 10:47am
I think you're right michelle, I seem to
remember reading that the girls are slower
and the boys are faster. Just like i'm
pretty sure that I remember reading that
if you want to improve your chances of
having a girl, shallow penetration at the
time of ejaculation should do it.
Because the girls are hardier and favor
the more acidic environment while the boys
don't. And that it gives the girls who
are slower swimmers more time to make it
to the womb since the boys normally don't
survive. Not sure about it, but I think
that's what I read.
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real mama
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Matt, Welcome to Adulthood - Now Act Like One! Posted: 11-16-05 16:45pm
Matt,
i'm going to sound like your mother here -
and i'm a lot older than you and a mom, so
I do these things, unsolicited.... :)
you were not honest with the woman. You
gave her "the vibe"? What is this, high
school?? Act like an adult - if you want
to break up with someone, what's the
waiting, hinting and "vibe-ing" for? If
you're "planning" to break up with
someone, do it fast, clean and clear. Be
honest, for pete's sake!
But you weren't, so....
You slept with her, unprotected (so you
thought she was still on the pill?
Still, if you don't want to father a child
*you* must take responsibility for bc.)
and here's the real insult:
you wanted to break up with her but you
slept with her *anyway*?!?!
Sure, maybe it's all a lie, and she isn't
pregnant. Well, you lied to her, too.
Sleeping with her when you knew you were
going to break up in a few days is a lie
that you cared about her. What do you
expect? Play cruelly with someone's
emotions and they'll play with yours, my
dear.
Or maybe she is pregnant, and is out to
get your *potential* money. Welp, these
things happen. Now you have a great
opportunity to be the grown up you want to
be, and do the right thing. If she is
pregnant, *even though* you don't know if
you're the father...
Help her through the pregnancy if she
wants it.
Help her stay clean if she needs it.
Drive her to appointments if she asks.
Pay the child support (sure, ask for a
paternity test after the baby is born),
regardless of whatever custody ends up
working out (and tigresacanela24 is right
- you have to pay even if you never get to
see the child).
Don't fight for full custody, unless the
mother proves herself unfit.
And next time, wear a damn condom! :x
the plain truth is, you did this to
yourself. Quit trying to make this about
her.
And let this be a lesson to you, no matter
what the results are.
You are as responsible as your partner
when it comes to bc.
You are responsible for being honest, if
you want honesty back.
You have to grow up.