Hey I was just wondering what the
percentages (i know its not definite) are
of having sexual intercourse on one
occasion with someone hiv +. Are there
still chances of not contracting it? I
understand that protection is absolutely
important but i'd like a real estimate not
one that is altered by worries of giving
the wrong example to others. Thanks in
advance =]
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cd998776
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Posted: 11-14-05 01:32am
This study, released in january 2005 from
us news and world report, suggests that
the average circumcised man has 0.5%
chance of getting hiv each time he has
sex, while an uncircumcised male has a
1.3% chance of getting hiv each time he
has sex.
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scaredreally
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Posted: 11-14-05 03:01am
Wow seriously? That has to be way off.
25% w/ condom? That is in no way
realistic.
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cd998776
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Posted: 11-14-05 19:02pm
Many (in fact, nearly all) also have pin
point holes that occur naturally in the
latex. These holes are big enough for
sperm and hiv to get through.
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Posted: 11-14-05 19:29pm
Condoms do not have pin point holes. If
you have a pperfectly new condom which has
been stored correctly, there shouldnt be
holes in it. Hiv and bodily fluids cannot
penetrate through condoms, or else what
would be the point of using them? Risk
comes into play when people do not use
condoms correctly, like when they get left
inside the female, or if it is not removed
correctly and spills, or when it is no put
on correctly and breaks.
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cd998776
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Posted: 11-14-05 19:49pm
You'd be surprised.... How many do have
pin point holes. Most are not enough to
cause a problem, therefore aren't
problems, but they do exist. Sure, if
you have a perfect condom, and use it
perfectly, then your chances are nearly
0%, but the fact of the matter is, most
condoms aren't perfect, and they are often
not used correctly.
It is absurd to claim that one-third of
condoms are defective. While it is true
that some condoms may be defective, as per
fda standards, the number is less than
4/1000.
Don't believe false information spread by
propagandists. Non-defective condoms when
used correctly without slippage or
breakage can effectively protect from hiv
and many stds. Most brothels in nevada
have had no incidence of hiv among the
prostitutes over several years. How would
this be possible if condoms were useless?
Also, a study in europe observed 120
couples with one partner hiv+ and the
other hiv-. After one year of having sex
with condoms, none of the hiv- partners
were infected.
As for the chance of a one-time
intercourse with a hiv+ person, it is
about 1 in 100 without a condom. With a
condom it is 10000 times more safer than
without a condom i.E 1 in a million.
Of course, it is true that condoms are not
as safe as "no sex". That is why, is
always better to follow the abc principle
- abstinence, be faithful to your spouse,
use condoms when necessary.
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cd998776
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Posted: 11-14-05 22:20pm
Like I said, the chances are slim, but are
possible and it does happen. Sure it's
safer with a condom, but my point is it's
not a 100% gaurentee. Sure 4 of 1000
seems like a small number, but when you
think of how many condoms a couple could
use in one night, 1, 2, 3, 4+, it adds up
quickly.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying you
shouldn't use condoms, you absolutley
should!, i'm just saying that you
shouldn't consider it a 100% gaurentee,
and then say, well I used a condom, I
can't have hiv, be pregnant, etc...
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scaredreally
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Posted: 11-15-05 02:09am
fern123
wrote:
it is absurd to claim that
one-third of condoms are defective.
While it is true that some condoms may be
defective, as per fda standards, the
number is less than 4/1000.
Don't believe false information spread by
propagandists. Non-defective condoms
when used correctly without slippage or
breakage can effectively protect from hiv
and many stds. Most brothels in nevada
have had no incidence of hiv among the
prostitutes over several years. How
would this be possible if condoms were
useless? Also, a study in europe
observed 120 couples with one partner hiv+
and the other hiv-. After one year of
having sex with condoms, none of the hiv-
partners were infected.
As for the chance of a one-time
intercourse with a hiv+ person, it is
about 1 in 100 without a condom. With a
condom it is 10000 times more safer than
without a condom i.E 1 in a million.
Of course, it is true that condoms are not
as safe as "no sex". That is why, is
always better to follow the abc principle
- abstinence, be faithful to your spouse,
use condoms when
necessary.
thanks fern for your information, I find
your statement alot more precise. Do you
mind posting the source for the 1/100
chance for a single time intercourse with
an hiv+ person?
Thanks again
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Probabilty of Getting Infected Posted: 11-16-05 19:41pm
It is true that the probability of getting
infected ranges from 1 in 100 to 1 in
10,000 in a single exposure. But this
applies to healthy people.
If the person has other ailments, and is
used to drugs, alcohol and other
activities, his body immunity may be
considerably lower than needs and the
probability could still be higher.
So, the only way to be sure is to be
tested. Do not scare yourself that you
could be 1 in that 10000. Just get
tested and be happy.
Good luck
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It Comes Down To... Posted: 01-20-06 06:28am
If you want to have sex but don't want to
get hiv, condoms are you're only option.
So there's no point worrying about how
many have 'pin-point' holes.
If you're not prepared to take the
extremely tiny risk during protected sex,
then abstain from it all together.
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