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Tylanas
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the Value of Life
Posted: 11-15-05 23:44pm
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Okay, give me your opinion. Simple, just
vote for whoever you think is most
deserving of life. Pretend that all the
rest are going to be killed. Whoever you
chose will be saved, cared for etc.
If there is another option you would like
me to add to the poll please tell me. If
you feel this poll is unfair or biased,
then it's okay, you don't have to vote.
It's a thing we did in ethics class and
psychology class, with a modification. I
added the 10 week old zef.
I'm also thinking of making one that justs
compares a 22 year old woman and a 10 week
old zef. I think that would be
interesting too. There would be an
assumption that the zef would somehow be
able to survive in an artificial womb of
some kind... It's a hypothetical question
you know! And then also, it might not be
that 22 year old's zef
either.
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Tylanas
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Re: the Value of Life
Posted: 11-16-05 00:05am
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| rogue123
wrote: | | what about if the zef is
inside the college
student? |
yeah, i'mnot sure about that one... I
sort of wanted to leave it up for whatever
the people interpereted... Think I should
do another choice of a zef inside a loving
mother who is trying to have kids and one
inside a young teen who really doesn't
want it?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-16-05 10:21am
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That's okay. This is even more
interesting in psychology class because
there are actually animals involved, like
ants and spiders and dolphins and stuff.
And in psychology class, you rate them all
using 1-10, and you can only use eah
number once. I believe there are 5
animals and 5 humans on the list.
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Posted: 11-16-05 10:59am
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I had to say the woman supporting three
children, on the basis that if she were
bumped off, there would be three people
who would be worse off. This assumes
that she wasn't a edit or something, in
which case they probably would have been
better off being taken in by social
services and placed with other families.
And you didn't provide any information on
the responsibilities or chracteristics of
any of the others. The doctor, for
instance, might also have a family to
support.
The idea of "worthy" doesn't work for me,
though - my answer is a purely utilitarian
one.
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Posted: 11-16-05 12:21pm
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I agree that it is hard to say.. Everyone
is just as equal to living as the other
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Posted: 11-16-05 16:21pm
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I can't choose, they're all people (or
gonna be soon) sorry-i didn't vote.
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Posted: 11-16-05 16:56pm
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Ther all special lives no one daservers
life more or less then the next they are
all equal ............. I didnt vote
either sorry
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Posted: 11-16-05 18:38pm
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What if that 10 week zef became a 3 year
old, went to college to become a scientist
who evenutally found the cure for aids,
had 3 children while single and later
became an old grandparent of 5 little
grandkids?
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 11-16-05 20:32pm
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Umm, okay....Grandfather. Still has the
same meaning.
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Posted: 11-16-05 20:45pm
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Allright stillhere pcforme.....Serisouly
enough. :roll:
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BrianBaby
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Posted: 11-16-05 21:57pm
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Edit for stillhere
what if that 10 week zef became a 3 year
old, went to college to become a scientist
who evenutally found the cure for aids,
had 3 children while single and later
became an old grandfather of 5 little
grandkids?
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:10pm
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| whatisupwiththat1
wrote: | | brianbaby
wrote: | | what if that 10 week zef
became a 3 year old, went to college to
become a scientist who evenutally found
the cure for aids, had 3 children while
single and later became an old grandfather
of 5 little
grandkids? |
the single mother of three can't become a
grandfather. |
yeah, but don't be dumb. She can become a
grandmother.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:11pm
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| brianbaby
wrote: | | what if that 10 week zef
became a 3 year old, went to college to
become a scientist who evenutally found
the cure for aids, had 3 children while
single and later became an old grandparent
of 5 little
grandkids? |
except that this example is of people at
their current age all at the same time,
not their past present and future selves.
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:13pm
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| poopoopoo
wrote: | i had to say the woman
supporting three children, on the basis
that if she were bumped off, there would
be three people who would be worse off.
This assumes that she wasn't a edit or
something, in which case they probably
would have been better off being taken in
by social services and placed with other
families. And you didn't provide any
information on the responsibilities or
chracteristics of any of the others.
The doctor, for instance, might also have
a family to support.
The idea of "worthy" doesn't work for me,
though - my answer is a purely utilitarian
one. |
it's supposed to be vague. Pretend that's
all the info you've been given (and it is)
and you have to make a desicion or they
all die horrible painful
deaths. If you chose, the one pick
survives and the others have quick
painless deaths.
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:18pm
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Okay, it sounds like this example isn't
working, so i'll make another one.
Suggestions for a poll that you would
actually be willing to answer?
Say, if these were the choices: these are
all 10 week old zefs:
a zef in a 15 year old girl who was raped
a zef in a 25 year old woman who really
wants children and is married to a loving
partner
a zef in a 22 year old woman who will lose
her job and become homeless if she remains
pregnant
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:22pm
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Nope still cant vote they are all special
they were concived for a reason what is
all these what ifs though that will never
get you anywhere
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Tylanas
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Posted: 11-16-05 23:38pm
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Then you would let all of them die painful
deaths? I'm sorry; I think my point here
is that there absolutely is a value to
life. I would rescue my boyfriend before
rescuing my family dog. I'd rescue
someone I disliked before i'd rescue the
family dog, because they are a living
breathing human.
But among "humans" as well, one must rate
life. Thus, a zef of a raped 15 year old
who doesn't want it is not as worthy of
life as the zef in a wife who is waiting
for her first child. I would rescue my
boyfriend before an axe murderer, or
before someone I didn't know anything
about.
And even if you don't believe in it from
the zef's point of view, the woman is
still the mature one, and it is her
desicion.
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Posted: 11-17-05 07:01am
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Whoever said it was a single mom...
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Posted: 11-17-05 10:31am
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| brianbaby
wrote: | | whoever said it was a single
mom... |
it doesn't matter....Male or female. You
fail to recognize the main point which
just goes to show your arrogance.
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Posted: 11-17-05 10:36am
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| whatisupwiththat1
wrote: | | eiri
wrote: | | she can become a
grandmother. |
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