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hollie686

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Posted: 11-21-05 19:18pm

I totally agree with you. Thanks for posting.
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jenn_smithson

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Posted: 11-21-05 19:48pm

Historically, people used to drink beer before they would even consider drinking water as the water could kill you (think america circa 1900's). And what do you know, women continued having children just as they always did. What is important for women is their individual health needs and care. Alcohol does not affect all women and all pregnancies in the same way. If this woman's doctor has advised her that a beer is acceptable at this stage of her pregnancy, it is not our place to ignorantly assume that we know more about her individual body or pregnancy and spew our judgemental opinions all over the place (like the woman who took her beer away).

At issue in this thread, is the behavior of the judgemental woman who arrogantly forced her ignorance on another.

And, for those of you stating that this woman should have her children taken from her, are you even listening to yourselves? Would you like someone to say that to you for just about anything that you do in a given day that puts your children at risk? Strapping them into a car, feeding them undercooked foods, feeding them the slop served at fast food establishments, letting them play on death trap play grounds, sending them to school or daycare with the perpetually ill student population, etc. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and this includes people whose opinions are different than your own.
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bleedeliciouscandy

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Posted: 11-21-05 20:59pm

Diamond, the people who are putting you down on this sight are really stupid. You never said that you went out and guzzled down six beers and then smoked a pack of cigarettes. One beer is not going to hurt you or the baby, and according to most doctors, quiting smoking completely can actually be more harmful to the baby than smoking itself. Nicotine is the same as many other drugs, like crack and heroin, if you quit without weaning yourself off the baby will go through withdrawal, whether it is nicotine withdrawal or heroin withdrawal, it doesn't matter.
And to the poster two above mine...Back in the day, probably when our grandparents were babies, their parents used to use rum and other liquors to soothe the baby, and some people still do that to this day! I'm not saying this is right, but it certainly isn't the same as filling a bottle with beer.
My advice to you diamond is to avoid doing certain things in public. If you're going to smoke, go somewhere private where the world will not judge you. No matter what people are going to have their opinions and they are going to think they are right. But the truth is, only you know what is really right for your baby.
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diamondsz

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Posted: 11-22-05 08:23am

No worries, im not at least offended by anything said its more of what was done and its over with....

Anyways

i do have advice for the lady who was an rn and said I deserve to have my child taken away

my husband is an rn and said that attitude at work would result in jobloss as well as a possible lawsuit if you ever told one of your charges what you said here. My husband said you guys are taught not to bring personal belief to work whether you agree or not every patient is treated the same as much as you disagree......

This post is a 50/50 belief so now no one is right or wrong but everyone has a right to your opinion and feltchick yeah maybe I was abit harsh but no one and I mean absolutly no one has a right to force their beliefs/opinions on anyone, didnt you say freespeech well we also have freewill.

If you would have read the original post I was asking for support about having an belief inforced upon me and racist issues, my husband has a hard time dealing with racism but it hurts me to see him hurt.

As for giving baby alcohol most people do it when baby is born, have you ever heard of gripe water???

A dr would not recommend something if it was harmful, my dr did not say drink all you want he said I could have a beer or two during the whole pregnancy. Before you say oh well see you agree with the dr "hollie" how many times have you take your prescription meds??? If yes well your calling the kettle black!!

Anyways im going to enjoy our snowfall today with my daughter, I really hope some of you wake up and smell the coffee and thanks for all the posts

jess
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Re: Drinking & Pregnancy
Posted: 11-22-05 09:41am

kksmith603 wrote:
for all of you that think it's okay to drink while being pregnant; would you give a newborn baby alcohol in a bottle to drink? It's the exact same thing!!! When you drink while being pregnant, the alcohol passes through the baby's tiny body as well!!! I actually have a very young family member who is mentally retarded, has seizures, can't talk, etc... Because his mommy decided to drink while pregnant it kills me to see this. I am a nurse. I studied these things in school! I have seen it first hand! So, for all you pregnant women who think it's okay to drink, please do more research. I'm sure that you will all see some things that will really change your mind!! I wish I could show you my little nephew!



how about I give you the name and telephone number of my doctor so she can tell you what she told me about it. She actually recommended a glass of red wine (one mind you) for the upcoming holidays. Now that's not advice that i'm actually going to take because I do not drink. But it was doctor given advice because of some issues i'm having with my heart rate that i've actually had my whole life. Again it's not advice that I am going to take because I don't drink. But how dare everyone jump in screaming at someone for taking doctor given advice. You don't know some people's whole stories or their situations. Quite a few medications cause birth defects but no one yells a someone for taking them because of a mother's medical condition. My point again you don't know what someone's doctor told them to do so mind your own business. Do you know that pregnant heroin addicts are not advised to detox while pregnant? Doctors recommend that they take methadone for the entire length of their pregnancy because it is too dangerous for them to detox. Now that's crucial. Are you going to yell at the heroin addict because she's actually saving her baby's life, complications aside. I've seen children of drinkers that are perfectly normal and i've seen children of non drinkers that have severe problems. Life is chance. And in some doctor's opinions the benefits to an occasional red wine or beer outweigh the slim possibility that the same one glass of wine or beer will give a child fas. Whatever that's my opinion, apparently i'm able to be a little more open-minded (especially since my own doctor recommended the same and I trust her, have had her for years and she helped me through everything) and I don't even believe in drinking... The smoking though has definitely got to go. I smoked before I found out I was pregnant and for about a month after before I could finally quit. The earlier you can quit the better it is for your child. Now that's definitely been proven to have immediate and lasting effects on your child like low birth weight, respiratory problems, premature birth, asthma, weakened immune system, etc., etc. If you ever want someone to talk to to help you quit, e-mail me @ ti gresacanela24@yahoo.Com. I'll give you my # and we can talk.
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Jac05

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Posted: 11-22-05 11:14am

Oh! My god!! Is the whole forum like this?

When someone ask's for help and aid, that is what you do, not have a go and judge, pregnancy is stressful enough with out it. We need each other to help us through this, even those that have a loving family around. No one knows what we go through, except each other, even those who have had children, because pregnancy blues and pains are quickly forgotten.

So get your heads out your a**es (sorry fanny, for you americans) and help a fellow colleague in her hour of need.

My advice to you diamondsz is this:

1. Enjoy your occassional drink. Its your body.
2. Ignore the ignorant cow, she's the one with a problem, not you.
3. Next time give her the drink, right in the face, then walk off. Lol

i don't know why you were on bedrest, but I wish you well for the rest of the pregnancy.

By the way your original post never mentioned that you were smoking, so all the other nasty comments that you have read here, did not read it properly.

I also hope that all you that have not reponed positively to diamondsz post, how would you feel if you got the same type of feed back that you gave to diamondsz when you really need help.

Remember we reap what we sow.

Jac
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kksmith603

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Posted: 11-22-05 19:56pm

I was not judging anybody. I just want people to know that there are risks involved with drinking while pregnant. Some babies aren't affected at all by this. But some are, and it's not a chance that I would take. Our opinions were asked. This is my opinion. I do wish you the best of luck with your pregnancy!
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Lilypad

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Posted: 11-23-05 08:53am

acoles70 wrote:
you don't deserve this baby!!! Drinking and smoking?? You deserve to have your child and your unborn child taken away. Just because one of your children is normal doesn't mean this one will be. It is one thing to drink before you find out you are preg, but are willingly putting the baby at risk.


you are an problem! Who the hell are you to tell her she shoulf have her baby taken away for having a glass of beer?? Her doctor okayed it. This is exactly why she is so pissed off in the first place, people like you who think they are the incredibly pregnancy police!
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Lilypad

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Re: I'm With You Diamond!
Posted: 11-23-05 08:54am

bleedeliciouscandy wrote:
diamond, the people who are putting you down on this sight are really stupid. You never said that you went out and guzzled down six beers and then smoked a pack of cigarettes. One beer is not going to hurt you or the baby, and according to most doctors, quiting smoking completely can actually be more harmful to the baby than smoking itself. Nicotine is the same as many other drugs, like crack and heroin, if you quit without weaning yourself off the baby will go through withdrawal, whether it is nicotine withdrawal or heroin withdrawal, it doesn't matter.

And to the poster two above mine...Back in the day, probably when our grandparents were babies, their parents used to use rum and other liquors to soothe the baby, and some people still do that to this day! I'm not saying this is right, but it certainly isn't the same as filling a bottle with beer.

Ahmen to that!

My advice to you diamond is to avoid doing certain things in public. If you're going to smoke, go somewhere private where the world will not judge you. No matter what people are going to have their opinions and they are going to think they are right. But the truth is, only you know what is really right for your baby.
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Lilypad

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Re: I'm With You Diamond!
Posted: 11-23-05 08:55am

lilypad wrote:
bleedeliciouscandy wrote:
diamond, the people who are putting you down on this sight are really stupid. You never said that you went out and guzzled down six beers and then smoked a pack of cigarettes. One beer is not going to hurt you or the baby, and according to most doctors, quiting smoking completely can actually be more harmful to the baby than smoking itself. Nicotine is the same as many other drugs, like crack and heroin, if you quit without weaning yourself off the baby will go through withdrawal, whether it is nicotine withdrawal or heroin withdrawal, it doesn't matter.


And to the poster two above mine...Back in the day, probably when our grandparents were babies, their parents used to use rum and other liquors to soothe the baby, and some people still do that to this day! I'm not saying this is right, but it certainly isn't the same as filling a bottle with beer.


Ahmen to that!


My advice to you diamond is to avoid doing certain things in public. If you're going to smoke, go somewhere private where the world will not judge you. No matter what people are going to have their opinions and they are going to think they are right. But the truth is, only you know what is really right for your baby.
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i totally agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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britney0581

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Posted: 11-23-05 10:14am

People on this forum are absolutely rude. Do you know how ugly and ignorant you guys sound, calling somebody stupid because they drank a beer while pregnant. If you have something to say to her say it in a manner that she might actually consider listening to. If some one called me stupid I wouldn't listen to their advice. If her doctor told her it was fine that shut the hell up. She didn't come on the forum to get told by a bunch of arrogant b*tches that she was an unfit mother. Of course I dont recommend alcohol but for some stupid a$$ b*tch to come up to me and tell me how to "be" pregnant, I would flip the frig out too. So diamondz, dont worry about it....This forum obviously shows the maturity level of the people on it ...And I for one am not impressed at all. However hun, I do recommend that you don't drink too often, but from what you said it certainly doesn't sound like you are. Just be very careful because you don't want something bad to happen to your baby. As for the whole "husband" issue....Just ignore it....People talk alot of you know what...Don't let it get you down...I know that being pregnant your emotions can be a little of kilter...I was the same way....So don't worry it's only normal to want to defend and knock the boots off of someone who says something ignorant about your husband....Just don't listen to people on this forum or anyone else who isn't gonig to give you advice in a kind matter, whether they are saying you are doing something bad or not..
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bleedeliciouscandy

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Posted: 11-23-05 21:40pm

It's nice to see everyone on this page (page 2) is supporting diamond. I am glad that my post was also put on this page. Page 1 was mostly suckers, page 2 is filled with us supportive people who don't have one nasty thing to say (except for the first post)! Yay!
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diamondsz

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Posted: 11-23-05 21:51pm

Well thanks guys!!!

I guess I owe you all a hug lol!!! I just wish people would actually stop judging and not just me but with everyone its so sickening.


Im off to bed almost 10 and well im finally getting choclate out of my system and I went and ordered another 15 lbs lol, but I will share. I think im going to church this weekend with elisa and say thanks to you guys cause some of you really deserve it as well as do some praying lol!!


Have a good week!!
Jess
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Posted: 11-23-05 21:54pm

Please say some prayers for me as it is hard in my situation to get to church lately. Happy thanks giving to you and you family.

Always

joanna
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cherrysodapop

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Posted: 11-24-05 12:55pm

Ithink you should straight out tell her to mind her own business!
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Lilypad

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Posted: 11-24-05 13:29pm

Happy thanksgiving everyone!
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Posted: 11-26-05 03:23am

I just saw this thread, even though i'm almost 2 days late on replying.. I still wanted to voice my opinion.

Diamondsz, I am completely with you on this one. If it were me.. I would've ordered another beer just to go over and pour it on her head! Lol she should've minded her own business.. Then her getting racist is definitely way out of line.

I have talked to my doctor just out of curiousity about pregnancy. He has told me that a glass of wine every now and then is perfectly fine. I don't know about beer though. He was telling me the yeast in beer could be bad if you drink it often, since they use the yeast to ferment it faster unlike wine, they let it age on its own. As with cigarettes, it's fine if you smoke under 10 a day. But I don't see how a beer once in a blue moon would be harmful. Of course if a person is drinking everyday and more than one glass a day, it'll hurt your baby. That's only common sense. If your doc says it's fine, enjoy! I personally don't drink beer, I like wine and champagne every so often though.

People on here need to keep their mean opinions to theirselves. If they don't think drinking is right when pregnant, then they shouldn't do it. That is their opinion and should do how they think. Not tell a person they're not good enough to keep their baby because they don't have the same beliefs. They are just suckers.

As with the race thing.. We may be a different color and look different on the outside, but we are all the same color on the inside, right? That's all that matters. If one is happy with someone that isn't "white", then let them be happy. They're just jealous over the others happiness. I have dated other races, to me, they are all the same (well different personalities of course). People need to quit being stupid and look past colors and see a person for who they truly are.

So yes, that lady and a few others who posted stepped over the boundries. I wish you a happy pregnancy and enjoy it while it lasts! But of course the real fun starts after your baby is born. =)
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Posted: 11-26-05 05:30am

Please do not drink or smoke when you're pregnant, even if its only 1 beer a week or whatever. I used to work in children services (b4 I had my own daughter) and I have seen little babie and children with problems coz their mothers drank during pregnancy. Its only 9 months of your life where you should stop, everythng you consume goes straight to your bubba, yes there are millions of people who drink and smoke and nothing happens to their babies, but they are lucky, there a lots of people who can't have children and would be really angry if they knew a person was putting her unborn child in danger (not purposly though). Don't mean to be rude, but you need to stop being selfish and think about this little baby inside you. My fiance's friend just gave birth to a baby a few days ago, but unfortunenlty he died 20 minutes later :(, his mother smoked during pregnancy, but i'm not sure if that was the cause of his death, but it could have been. Please be careful. Good luck. :)
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Posted: 11-26-05 10:03am

She had 1 beer during her pregancy, that will not hurt the baby. She's not out weekly drinking. A co-worker was prescribed beer right before her daughter was born to help bring on the milk, they'd bring her a beer a day in the hosp the 3 days before she gave birth. And this was only in 1989.
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Posted: 11-26-05 13:17pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
she had 1 beer during her pregancy, that will not hurt the baby. She's not out weekly drinking. A co-worker was prescribed beer right before her daughter was born to help bring on the milk, they'd bring her a beer a day in the hosp the 3 days before she gave birth. And this was only in 1989.


wow .Now that is interesting. In case you all missed it .I said the same thing. A few beers will not hurt the baby. But this is very interesting. Learn something new everyday.
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