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momix2

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Really Lost & Needing Input
Posted: 11-30-05 19:31pm

New here and looking for answers. Long story short - I was with a man for 5 years (2 years 1st time then 3 years 2nd time) let me premise this by saying he was only in one other relationship prior to me for approx 6 mos. & he is 39 years old and never in love prior to me he was the most loving, giving, sensitive person in the world. I and my children could not want for anything. 1st time around he ended it because he said that he could not progress in the relationship as it needed to. When he came back 3 months later saying he felt sick without the kids and I and couldn't imagine spending the rest of his life without us I took him back on the premise that this time it was for good because I couldn't bear to put my kids and myself through the pain we went through after the breakup. He said that he wanted a life with the kids and I and he would never let it happen again. He came on so strong, spent every moment together - doing everything together. He basically infaltrated my life and I welcomed it. Things were great for a couple of years we talked about marriage and he wasn't ready, I kept the lines of communication open about it and perhaps pushed sometimes too hard but then knowing that we had a wonderful relationship and accepted that - I backed off. Then this past easter he proposed..It was a very emotional and amazing moment. We had planned to marry this month. Well one month after proposing and asking the children and I to move in he changed his mind. Stating things felt different. Then his behaviour changed. Since may of this year he began to spend less time or effort on us. When I would try to talk to him he shut down, walk out the door not to be heard from again or burst into a rage (no physical abuse - he would never) and bolt from my house. I would have to call him or I would never hear from him again. This disappearing act when he didn't like the conversation or indifferences we had would occur many many times...And if it weren't for me calling him I probably wouldn' t have ever seen him again. Once we talked things over he would be ok. Well one month ago after we had another talk about us he got out of my car and left...I never heard from him again. I wrote a letter 2 wks later to say I assumed things were over but didn't want to assume and asked him to contact me so we could have closure to it. He never called or wrote. I went to see him and he was cold, I asked him if he wanted this and he said no, I asked him if he wanted to spend the rest of his life without me and the kids - he said no. I said ok lets get some help and do this. He said it's not so easy. I let him be and we decided to talk over the next few weeks. But we never talked about us and how to get us back. So I approached the subject and we agreed to work on things together not apart. All the while he was verbally expressing his love and his future wishes for us. The very next day he left a message saying he didn't feel good and would call the next day...I never heard from him again... A week later when I emailed to ask of my things (bike, key, jewelry, etc) to be left in my shed when I was going away, he didn't return them...So a few days later I went to his house and returned the ring and his things..He just stood there cold and unfeeling. I asked him to help me to understand - tell me you hate me, or don't love me or there is someone else...Something...He said no to all - that he loved me and there would be no one else - things just changed inside..And I said goodbye and that I did love him and tried so hard..He said I love you..So as long winded as this is I am asking for someone to please, please help me understand...Do you think he is bipolar? How can someone who can emit so much love and love me be so shut off like I don't exist the next moment...? How can this be? He is like jekyl and hyde? If someone could shed light on this I would really appreciate it.
I am really lost :(
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adamneedshelp

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Hi!
Posted: 12-05-05 09:32am

Hi,
i know some things about bipolar, or enough anyway. But by what you said some of things could say he is, maybe if is though he realy does love u but either he know he has this and he is afraid to tell u or maybe he is involved in somthing else I do not kno but I think what u need to do is call him up or get into some kind of contact and talk it out with him, ask him why he left and ask him why he says he loves u but doesnt want to be with u, I kno it is hard but I think it needs to be done because u were with him for 5 years, and it is hard to just not be with anyone and not kno why they dd what they did. If he doesnt kno himself why he is like this maybe u can convince him to go take tests and go to a docter to see what is up. That would be the best for him because I can tell that u do care for him and if u care for him he might need help but is afraid of doing it alone. Either way I wish u the best of luck and I hope to hear back from you!

I hope you find what your looking for, may god be with you!
Adam
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momix2

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Thank You
Posted: 12-05-05 10:28am

Hi adam,
thank you for your advice..However, I have asked him sooo many times to talk about why he's like he is and he either gets flaberghasted or irate and withdrawn and runs away. Last year I also asked him to talk to someone as well (like my pastor at church) and he agreed then refused. His usual response when I have asked him why he acts like he does is "i don't know why my feelings change for you, if I did then I would tell you". I believe he needs help but cannot convince him to. I have tried and tried again. I wish I could go to him or try to contact him to talk but he doesn't want to. Since oct of this year I have tried on many occasions but he just says "things have changed, still love you but it's not that easy, tired of the ups and downs". Thing is the only downs we had were him changing his mind about wanting to be with me one minute and then not the next. We had similar beliefs, values, never lied nor cheated on each other. 3 weeks ago when he didn't return my things and I went to return his, he stood there at his door barely opening it and I asked him for answers, he gave nothing, barely a sorry. It was so hard to see him so cold and unfeeling. Only when I said tell me you hate me, you don't love me or there is someone else did he start to cry..And say that there would be no one else and that he did love me..Talk about confusing! The worst was my daughter's hurt and pain - he was the closest thing to a dad she had..I truly wish I could go talk to him and help but he doesn't want to see me, I got that feeling 3 weeks ago. And it hurt too much. But I did say to him if he ever wanted to talk, I would be there. So I am trying to mend the lives of me and my children for now. Can I ask how you know about bipolar? And does he seem to have the signs of it?
Thanks
momix2
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adamneedshelp

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Hi Again,
Posted: 12-06-05 09:21am

I watched a movie on bipolar and was very interested in it. I dont know for sure why but it just seemed like an interesting disease. I did a little research on the web and read alot of comments from other people and there problems with this. Now I may not know everything like I said but I know enough. And I want to help people and give advice the best I can. To tell for sure if he has bipolar or not I couldnt tell you a certain answer because to tell for sure u need to go see a docter a get test done. And I understand that u tried to get him to go and see someone and get that done. But by what u told me and the way he changes his moods and jumps from one conclusion to the next I think it could actually be a possibility if not that it could be another psycological disease or disorder I am not sure of exactly. But like I said he would need to go to a docter for certain answers. I am sorry for you and your daughter. I really am. Are u currently still in "love" with him? I know u still will have feelings for him and I kno u care for him, but u kno I think what u need to do is either try one more time and try to get him better or I think u need to move on. Now this may sound harsh but I mean you have a daughter and yourself to think of too. And it may be hard but maybe this is the best. No one I fell should go through life alone. Plus your daughter that u love should have some male father figure support as well. Question: your child who exactly is this with, your boyfriends your talking about now or...? Anyway u deserve someone that can be there for u and treat u the way u deserve to be treated. And who knows u might either get ur boyfriend some help or u might find yourself with someone else. Either way by what u told me u tried nd tried to help him but if he refuses everytime maybe that all u can do, u cant keep trying and holding on if hes not willing to get help. I am sorry for ur situation but hopefully u will find what u are looking for soon! Feel free to write back cuz I will be looking for u :d
*i wish u the best of luck in all your decisions.*
adam
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chochwesi

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Posted: 12-06-05 10:34am

:cry: first, I feel for your loss, as confusing as this person made it, and more so for your child, who obviously became attached, and then nothing. No, chances are he is not bi-polar, from what you've said, he doesn't have the classic symptoms. However, he does have something wrong with him! As hard as it is, you are better off finding someone else. This man doesn't sound as if he is willing to seek help, and my feelings are that he will continue to play this ping pong game with you in the future. You and your child deserve better.
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chochwesi

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Posted: 12-06-05 10:36am

:cry: first, I feel for your loss, as confusing as this person made it, and more so for your child, who obviously became attached, and then nothing. No, chances are he is not bi-polar, from what you've said, he doesn't have the classic symptoms. However, he does have something wrong with him! As hard as it is, you are better off finding someone else. This man doesn't sound as if he is willing to seek help, and my feelings are that he will continue to play this ping pong game with you in the future. You and your child deserve better.
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chochwesi

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Posted: 12-06-05 10:39am

:cry: first, I feel for your loss, as confusing as this person made it, and more so for your child, who obviously became attached, and then nothing. No, chances are he is not bi-polar, from what you've said, he doesn't have the classic symptoms. However, he does have something wrong with him! As hard as it is, you are better off finding someone else. This man doesn't sound as if he is willing to seek help, and my feelings are that he will continue to play this ping pong game with you in the future. You and your child deserve better.
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momix2

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Posted: 12-06-05 16:35pm

Thanks again,
as you said I tried and tried without success and yes I do have to think of myself and my daughter & son who is by the way not his. Their father left us just prior to her birth..
I cannot contact him again as I have my dignity..Nothing more unattractive then a woman trying to be with someone or in my case help him when he doesnt want contact with me..Although yes I still love him I am angry as heck at him and disappointed that he could just bolt without a word. I have made a decision to move on and take care of me and my children. Although I am upset that he hasn't returned my belongings, bike, house key, kids things..Jewelry..Now I know they are all material but just the same I don't understand why he hasn't even after being asked. I just don't want to contact him again. I cannot make his problem mine - however if we were together I would support him one hundred percent, no question. I just needed to wrap my head around his behaviour because it was unexplainable, that is when someone suggested he may be bipolar. When things were good they were over the moon when they were bad they were really bad and he usually bailed. Anyways, that is why I came to this forum and realized that other stories seemed similar to mine. Thanks for your help
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