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Posted: 12-18-05 15:53pm
Oh yes, any obgyn will just tie my tubes.
I am 23, they think I "will change my
mind" I have known so many women to get
pregnant after a man had a vasectomy, I do
not trust them. An iud is 99.99%
effective, it is actually as effective
statistically as tubal ligation!! I am
not personally against abortion, so I
don't mind having one if necessary.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 12-18-05 16:06pm
carifairy
wrote:
oh yes, any obgyn will just
tie my tubes. I am 23, they think I
"will change my mind" I have known so
many women to get pregnant after a man had
a vasectomy, I do not trust them. An iud
is 99.99% effective, it is actually as
effective statistically as tubal
ligation!! I am not personally against
abortion, so I don't mind having one if
necessary.
that is incredibly rare if not impossible
to be preggy when the man has the big v.
After a man has a vasectomy his sperm
count is monitored until the reads are
zero. I can tell you because I did had a
bf with a vasectomy and I was actually
very scared at the thought of not being
able to have his vasectomy reversersed and
be able to have children. It needs a
skillfull surgeon to make a vasectomy
reversed succesfully and even then
according to how old is the vasectomy
still the chances are not so high.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 12-18-05 16:07pm
I had an iud and it ended up in the fetus
head, which is rare the fetus was not
growing and was not ok, even the dr said I
should abort so I did because after
thinking about for a while I know I was
doing the right thing for the fetus and
myself.
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Posted: 12-18-05 16:20pm
sandyallen
wrote:
i had an iud and it ended up
in the fetus head, which is rare it was
not growing and was not ok, even the dr
said I should abort so I did because
after thinking about for a while I know I
was doing the right thing for the fetus
and myself.
considering the doctor said that's what
was needed to be done that is okay, this
is a rare case that doesn't count for the
3,500 abortions we have everyday in
america.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 12-18-05 16:34pm
A lot of females abort for the fetus, not
just for themselves, therefore we should
not judge them.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-18-05 18:21pm
There is an "unexpectedly pregnant"
support board on babycenter.Com...There
are quite a few women who post about
getting pregnant after their hubbay had
the "big v"... Their men think that they
cheated.
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nightangel73
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Posted: 12-18-05 19:07pm
carifairy
wrote:
there is an "unexpectedly
pregnant" support board on
babycenter.Com...There are quite a few
women who post about getting pregnant
after their hubbay had the "big v"...
Their men think that they
cheated.
definetly I would think so too. That's
how a neighbor of my cousin discovered his
wife cheated on him.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-18-05 21:34pm
Sterilization is not 100%.. Nothing is...
People would still want to have an
abortion if they become pregnant after
sterilization.(if they did not want kids)
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Tylanas
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:11pm
sunshine424
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
sunshine424
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
sunshine424
wrote:
eiri
wrote:
sunshine424
wrote:
tax brackets are stupid too. Just
like your 20 week
rule.
so you think everyone should be taxed the
same amount? Then the rich are
getting off easy, and the poor are hurt.
That's just lovely. And
yeah, what about your line, you draw it
before the egg implants, but it's already
alive, it's already dividing. You
have your line, I have mine. You
have the right to draw our line where you
want, but you do not have the right to
draw my line.
ideally, I wish nobody was taxed, period.
Im not going to debate who should be
taxed what. Yup, taxes suck but
taxes are not killing anyone innocent,
like abortion does. If you call
what I believe in a "line" so be it.
At least I am pro-life and value life,
born and unborn. Amen to
muah!
no you're not!! You're perfectly
fine with killing it via birth control or,
I bet, the morning after pill, just as
long as that living, dividing cell doesn't
implant!! You are the hypocrite!!
You are pro-"death" just like I am.
You just say it's illegal a lot sooner
than I do.
no, your wrong. First off.....Birth
control has to fail for this "issue" of
the fertilizing egg not being implanted.
Considering the pill has a 3% failure
rate, this does not happen too often now
does it? And in the rarity it does,
there is not pregnancy until there is
implantation and that will not ever happen
on the pill. As we discussed.
And no....I do not believe in the morning
after pill. I have never taken that
nor ever will. I was on bc for 12
years. I got off. I became
pregnancy unintentionally. I kept the
pregnancy as hard as it was to grasp at
first. Now I have a beyond beautiful,
smart, energetic little boy who has
changed my life for the best. Am I
happy? You bet your buns!
;o)
i never said it happened often. But
can't you see that in the chances that
this does happen, the egg is dividing and
is alive?!? Don't you understand that
fact? No, it's not "technically" a
pregnancy because it has not implanted
yet, but it is still alive. I know that
it does not let the egg implant, duh,
"sunshine", that's how it kills the
fertilized, unimplanted egg. By
flushing it out. Hello, ms.
Pro-death. "it's okay only when I don't
know i'm doing it!" gag.
Your fault for getting pregnant darlin',
since you're the one who went off birth
control. Don't preach how you're so
superior for suffering through having the
baby, you could have aborted. I hate
martyrs.
I am baby free, and i'm happy too! It
is possible to not procreate and still be
happy!
um...Did I say it wasn't my fault for
getting pregnant reject? No. Are you
delusional again? A martyr? Your a
loon, have you been told that before? I
did not suffer while I was pregnant nor
while I was delivering, thank you. I
think i'm normal for having the baby, not
superior. That's what normal woman do
when they become pregnant....Have the
baby. Duh! Boyeeeeeee.......What a
concept!!!!!!!!! You mean we are
supposed to have those babies????
Hahahahah what a fruitcake you are eiri!
I loved every minute of feeling my sweet
nicolas move inside of me and I love every
minute of life with him now. I never put
suffer and nicolas in the same sentence,
it's just not possible. "could have had
an abortion" you say. .N.Ever, never
never. I'm not an evil, twisted, skanky,
loser beast killing woman, as so many
skanks out there
are.
listen woman: having a baby was right for
you. Fine, so what? Shut up. Having a
baby is not right for me; and I have a
right to have sex as an adult. Thus, if
it is right for me, then I have the right
to abort. What's right for me is not
right for you, and that's how it is.
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sunshine424
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:14pm
nightangel73
wrote:
carifairy
wrote:
oh yes, any obgyn will just
tie my tubes. I am 23, they think I
"will change my mind" I have known so
many women to get pregnant after a man had
a vasectomy, I do not trust them. An
iud is 99.99% effective, it is actually as
effective statistically as tubal
ligation!! I am not personally against
abortion, so I don't mind having one if
necessary.
that is incredibly rare if not impossible
to be preggy when the man has the big v.
After a man has a vasectomy his sperm
count is monitored until the reads are
zero. I can tell you because I did had a
bf with a vasectomy and I was actually
very scared at the thought of not being
able to have his vasectomy reversersed and
be able to have children. It needs a
skillfull surgeon to make a vasectomy
reversed succesfully and even then
according to how old is the vasectomy
still the chances are not so
high.
very rare.
So basically since everything has some
sort of failure rate, pro-choice is always
going to have some excuse. Like
nightangel said, if birth control fails,
be responsible and have the baby....Since
you know pregnancy is an outcome.
Pro-life is very non-selfish. Again, it's
not taking the baby into consideration
when you look after your own needs.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:16pm
The baby is not born yet, I do not need to
take its needs into consideration. Even
if roe v wade is overturned, there will
still be states that will allow it.
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sunshine424
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:20pm
carifairy
wrote:
the baby is not born yet, I
do not need to take its needs into
consideration. Even if roe v wade is
overturned, there will still be states
that will allow
it.
yup....Like california, ny,
etc.....Radically liberal states.
That is the problem....You feel you don't
need to take it's needs into consideration
because it's younger in age basically.
And not even your own childs. That's just
evil. Your a noncaring person, point
blank. Just accept it. You care about
nobody but your little self. That's too
bad. Hope you never need anything from
anyone with that attitude.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:22pm
Of course I do not need anything from
anyone, it is my job to care for myself.
I have a great job, great health
insurance, and a lot of money in savings
and stocks. I also have a great fiance',
who looks out for me.
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sunshine424
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:32pm
carifairy
wrote:
of course I do not need
anything from anyone, it is my job to care
for myself. I have a great job, great
health insurance, and a lot of money in
savings and stocks. I also have a great
fiance', who looks out for
me.
and that is great. And it is great that
you do not want children. What isn't
great is the attitude you have should your
birth control fail. To me, you sound like
a very "out for yourself and yourself
only" person. You could care less about
the likes, wants, and needs of others.
You only seem to want yourself to gain in
life.
And ihate to break it to you, but money is
nothing in life. Yes, we need it to eat
and have shelter, but to base your
happiness on it is petty. Money is the
"root of all evil". I'm sure you have
heard that. It truly is. It can cause
problems for many people.
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:42pm
I volunteer at homeless shelters, and make
many contributions to battered womens
shelters. I also occasionally volunteer,
but they need $ to help these women more
than anything. I do quite a few
activities that involve community service,
and that do not revolve around "me". I
enjoy helping people who are less
fortunate, especially women at the womens
shelter.
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Posted: 12-18-05 22:51pm
carifairy
wrote:
of course I do not need
anything from anyone, it is my job to care
for myself. I have a great job, great
health insurance, and a lot of money in
savings and stocks. I also have a great
fiance', who looks out for
me.
i have all that too but I don't take it
for granted. After my brother died
suddenly at 33 I learned that one is here
today and tomorrow we don't know how our
situtation is going to be.
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sunshine424
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Posted: 12-18-05 23:22pm
nightangel73
wrote:
carifairy
wrote:
of course I do not need
anything from anyone, it is my job to care
for myself. I have a great job, great
health insurance, and a lot of money in
savings and stocks. I also have a
great fiance', who looks out for
me.
i have all that too but I don't take it
for granted. After my brother died
suddenly at 33 I learned that one is here
today and tomorrow we don't know how our
situtation is going to
be.
i'm sorry about your brother. You are so
right.
Life is short. And extremely short for
those killed in the selfish, senseless act
of abortion.
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Tazzy D
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Posted: 12-19-05 09:24am
Sorry to hear about your brother, but lets
use him for example..
If him and his fiance where expecting a
baby, and she went and had an abortion ...
Now the next week something happened to
your brother.. I think not only her, but
all the family would regret the abortion
as well, because that could have been a
piece of your brother a legacy still
carried on.. Now because of an abortion
both lifes have now been taken instead of
one... Just my opinion..
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Carifairy
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Posted: 12-19-05 12:43pm
I do not take anything for granted. You
forget, as I have posted before, that I
volunteer most of nursing duties and
skills. I volunteer my time to help
others beause I enjoy helping people, I
donate time, money, items of hygiene ect..
A lot charities have plenty of people
who volunteer, but not a whole lot of
money, so I do donate money. I do help
people, and enjoy it. I have also worked
with the elderly population who have
alzheimers disease, and cared for them.
My own father is 80 and has memory
problems, and I cared for him for many
years. I take nothing for granted.
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Posted: 12-19-05 19:53pm
carifairy
wrote:
i do not take anything for
granted. You forget, as I have posted
before, that I volunteer most of nursing
duties and skills. I volunteer my time
to help others beause I enjoy helping
people, I donate time, money, items of
hygiene ect.. A lot charities have
plenty of people who volunteer, but not a
whole lot of money, so I do donate money.
I do help people, and enjoy it. I
have also worked with the elderly
population who have alzheimers disease,
and cared for them. My own father is 80
and has memory problems, and I cared for
him for many years. I take nothing for
granted.
i see very good what you do carifairy. I
think that people that hang out in
healthboards like this are the kind of
ones that like to help others. I too
volunteer at a hospital and I run a big
website like this.
