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abstractabstract

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Posted: 02-05-07 00:12am


Oh my god, sairdking, that's exactly what happened to me. Plus I kept losing consciousness awake, like in mid step. I'd forget everything and who I was and where I was. I'd go blank. A horrifying blankness that would occur every few seconds, and i'd never be able to recover from the previous attack in time. And yes.. "forget what it was like to be normal". That sentence there brought a cold wave over me. I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience. They are awful.

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Re: Bad Trip On Cannabis. Please Dont Do It Posted: 02-05-07 00:20am


Abstractabstract, I got exactly the same trip you got. My first time I was 26, and got no effect. I read about it and knew that nobody dies from cannabis, since it's not toxic enough. I tried again and smoked like 5 times from a cigarrete. And what happened was as followed: 1) I was laughing for 50 minutes on the floor 2) then I started seeing the time delay from when I touch things to when I feel them... 3) a part of my brain started malfunction: words had no meaning, and when I tried to explain this to my friends, the words just spoken out of my mouth had no meaning or sense in my head. It's a kind of separation between the conceptualizing layer of the mind: words had no meaning, and also I couldn't read, or understand numbers (i couldnt read the time in my digital watch) 4) I freaked out, I started to become catatonic, and completely stupid. I had such a hammering in my head. I'll try to explain the feeling with this sentence (as it came in my head): i need help because my thoughts indju tamk poold muta ta ta ta ta ta ta as you can see, I started talking then words had no sense, and then I got stock in the hammering. I thought I was going to end up stupid like that in an asylum. I was so scared. I wanted to kill myself. Never been in such a dark place. It wore of 6 hours later, and completely off after 24 hours. However, it was such an impressive experience, that I developed panic attacks for the following years. I had a severe anxiety problem. I consulted my doctor and he said he didn't think at all that cannabis could do that to me. However, a psichiatrist told me that there are people that is "alergic" to it, and that's how it manifest itself, thru a terrible loss of control. Years later, I decided to give it a try again, thinking that I was stable mentally and it wont happen again. I smoked twice from the cigarrete everybody was smoking. I got the same effect. This time I just kept telling myself that it will go off. And it did, 6 hours later. I realized that even when I knew it will go down, fear was the only thing I could feel. Feel was a chemical reaction. I wont do it again, ever! I can't forget such a horrible feeling, such an impression it leaved in my mind that lasted me years to be myself again. The effect wore off, but what I lived was what leaved me so bad for so long.

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Posted: 02-07-07 03:47am


What your describing abstractabstract, is depersonalization, it just may be that you have hightened awareness, and senses. Smoking that garbage has dulled and overloaded your senses, causing you to become unaware. Some people have little to no awareness and senses, so that garbage dosn't effect them in the same way it might have effected you. High on life!

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Posted: 02-07-07 08:49am


[quote]my first time I was 26, and got no effect. I read about it and knew that nobody dies from cannabis, since it's not toxic enough. I tried again and smoked like 5 times from a cigarette. And what happened was as followed: 1) I was laughing for 50 minutes on the floor 2) then I started seeing the time delay from when I touch things to when I feel them... 3) a part of my brain started malfunction: words had no meaning, and when I tried to explain this to my friends, the words just spoken out of my mouth had no meaning or sense in my head. It's a kind of separation between the conceptualizing layer of the mind: words had no meaning, and also I couldn't read, or understand numbers (i couldn't read the time in my digital watch) 4) I freaked out, I started to become catatonic, and completely stupid. I had such a hammering in my head. I'll try to explain the feeling with this sentence (as it came in my head): i need help because my thoughts indy tank pooled uta ta ta ta ta ta ta as you can see, I started talking then words had no sense, and then I got stock in the hammering. I thought I was going to end up stupid like that in an asylum. I was so scared. I wanted to kill myself. Never been in such a dark place. It wore of 6 hours later, and completely off after 24 hours. However, it was such an impressive experience, that I developed panic attacks for the following years. I had a severe anxiety problem. I consulted my doctor and he said he didn't think at all that cannabis could do that to me. However, a psichiatrist told me that there are people that is "alergic" to it, and that's how it manifest itself, thru a terrible loss of control. Years later, I decided to give it a try again, thinking that I was stable mentally and it wont happen again. I smoked twice from the cigarrete everybody was smoking. I got the same effect. This time I just kept telling myself that it will go off. And it did, 6 hours later. I realized that even when I knew it will go down, fear was the only thing I could feel. Feel was a chemical reaction. I wont do it again, ever! I can't forget such a horrible feeling, such an impression it leaved in my mind that lasted me years to be myself again. The effect wore off, but what I lived was what leaved me so bad for so long. [\quote] dude. I am a very supportive person. I even had the same experience as you, and hated it. But it should not cause you to get counseling. I knew it was only the drug, and once it was gone, I would be back to normal. I think your need for counseling might not be because of the drug, but something else instead. I only say this in hopes you find the root cause of your troubles. I do not believe having a bad trip is the cause.

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Posted: 02-07-07 11:45am


Marijuana isnt bad for the body or mind in genral...But eveyone has problems such as addictive personalitys, poor judgement (stupid), careless about health and life in genral, possible allergic reacitn to thc / caniboids... Its these people that give marijuana a bad name. I'm not saying these people are bad or cause bad but they just need diciplin and what not. Its not there fault they cant smoke it....Its not there fault they get addicted and it ruins there lifes...... I beg to differe and will go into if needed. The worst thing marijuana does to humans is mess up there lungs beucase they take larger hits and hold it in for longer.

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Bad Trip Posted: 02-18-07 16:19pm


I am not experienced enough with pot to impart too much in the way of advice. An experience I had this past friday was met with overt condescension from non-pot smokers and the usual “it was every factor in the book except the pot” from those who do it on a regular basis. Abstract, I know exactly where you are coming from! I am not a casual user of weed. In fact, the only times I ever smoke it is when a good friend comes down from humboldt to visit. My experiences in the past have been mild with the exception of one time when it took me to a state of euphoria that confirmed all the stories i’d heard. But it had been about a year since that time and when my friend was here a few days ago to visit, he showed up with brownies. Now in his defense, he told me that I shouldn’t eat a whole one. In our group of friends, I am the only one who doesn’t smoke or drink. He seemed to take this into consideration when he warned me. But, I ate it anyway like an fool, figuring i’d get a nice high to help me enjoy the evening. Boy was I wrong. About 90 minutes later, while on my way to the bathroom, it hit me quite literally, like a gallon of freezing water. There was a deafening pounding that concentrated on my chest and forehead. I froze in place and immediately called my friend over to where I was. “what is in this?” I said, trying in vain to hide my rising panic. He smiled at me and explained that it wasn’t anything but weed but that it is more potent when eaten, that I didn’t smoke recreationally and that it was a pretty big brownie that I had. His words weren’t very reassuring especially when he added that I would have to “ride it out”. He sat with me while I went through what I can only describe as supersonic revolving door of emotions and sensations. My heartbeat drowned out all sound and every few seconds my fingers, knees and head would twitch with lives of their own. I couldn’t concentrate on speech, and any time I talked it sounded like my words were seconds behind the movement of my lips. At one point, I began crying and pacing around which was just a wonderful way to spend a friday night. In between the waves of panic and sickness, I kept blaming my friend for not stopping me then begging him to not let anything bad happen to me. The peak lasted about 4 hours until I was able to compose myself enough to muster a smile. The whole next day I slept and felt apathetic. I can tell you with all honesty that I will never touch pot again. I don’t have a problem with people who do it a lot since they obviously have learned their own limitations. But I would tell someone considering a brownie to beware of the risks. I don’t now what triggered this horrible ordeal. It could have been a myriad of things like my mental state and environment but the bottom line is that what drugs pull from our subconscious mind are sometimes better left where they are.

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Posted: 02-26-07 20:21pm


I've been smoking occassionally for about 6 years with no adverse effects until that a few months ago. My friend had asured me she had some '10 out of 10 caca' but after just a few tokes I started to experience some of the same things that have already been discribed; feeling trapped inside my own skull with everything coming from what seems like miles away, my limbs heavy and twitching. the worst part was being aware of it happening but being powerless to stop it. the more i tried to fight it the worse it became. I had a serious panic attack and ended up running out of the house with no idea where i was going. in the end one of my freinds managed to call me and calm me down enough to go back to the house and fall asleep. Everyone else who i was smoking with was perfectly fine, apart from being seriously scared by my behavour. I've got the piss taken out of me a fair few times for that night, so its good to know i'm not the only one to experience this type of thing. incidently i tried smoking weed from the same batch again a few weeks later (god knows why). i began to feel it having the same effect, but i knew what to expect and tried to relax into it. it still wasnt a pleasurable experience but the only noticable sign was that i was 'a bit quiet', certainly no freak out. i've also smoked weed from other sources since then. none have given me anything worse than the munchies.

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It's True Posted: 03-14-07 23:22pm


first time smoking the exact thing happened to me. There's really no way to describe accurately what went on in my head, but this is the best I can do Everything I saw and heard was on repeating over and over, like a cd skipping. Then things would go by extremely slow, frame by frame, and the whole time I knew something wasn't right, but was a powerless spectator trapped in a true nightmare. It was terrible, the kind of thing i wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I know it was the weed because it happened to me twice, and both times my friends were smoking with me. A few months after the first time I was dumb enough to try it again, thinking it had to be a freak incident or I smoked too much the first time. It didn't last as long, maybe about three or four minutes, but I was panicking so bad on the inside, even though it hadn't manifested itself yet cause I knew it was happening again and i couldn't believe it. I ran out the front door of my friend's house and jumped in my car, not yet fully in control of my body, and for some reason thought if I drove away as fast as I could the trip would stop. Unfortunately my friends thought I was messin around and I almost ran them over. My friend, who is an experienced smoker, was smoking the same caca that night and if it was laced he woulda known. I have no idea what causes it but I have no mental disorders, I've gone through high school, two years of college, and basic training with no problems at all, but weed nearly ruined my life, just bysmoking twice. I know it is rare, but it's something to consider. If anyone knew a fraction of what it was like they would never look at a joint again, I still have weird dreams at night when I think I'm high and freakin out. Not a fun thing to deal with at 22.

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Posted: 03-15-07 05:08am


thanks for the replies. I haven't touched the stuff ever since. I only think it should be illegal because of the SEVERE price one must pay if he/she has a bad reaction to it. It haunts some of my waking moments, like when a guitar solo or any piece of music goes at 'slightly' the wrong speed and i feel sick at the mere memory of my bad experience. Or when I go to any major public gathering such as a concert and there are doing it irresponsible people blowing it in peoples faces. I panic simply at the smell of it and try to jog/literally run away as calm as possible although inside I feel like a wide eyed cat being terrified to death. I hate you marijuana. I hate you.

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Posted: 03-15-07 11:15am


i dont know what to make of these experiences people are describing. my first reaction is that it was probably laced, but then i've had people describe awful 'trips' and they are certain that it wasnt laced, cos their friends took it too and nothing happened to them. well then it must depend entirely not on the drug, but on the person who takes it. if you are the sort of person who values their sense of reality and normality and gets scared if they start to feel different than they usually do, then you are probably not a candidate for marijuana, or alcohol, or any other drug for that matter!! you have to know what you are letting yourself in for, because different people will obviously react different ways. i've rarely enjoyed marijuana. once or twice i've took it and it's made me giggly and warm. most of the time i just get tired and wish i hadn't bothered! i'm not a fan. i have a friend who had the same experience as abstactabstract. she has panic attacks as a result. she cant be near people on drugs anymore. she has never smoked it since. on the other hand, i have another friend who was basically saved by marijuana. he was really paranoid and depressed and was actually suicidal until he discovered pot, he could relax and see things clearly, and it basically saved his life. i would say to anyone, if you are gonna take anything you have never taken before, do it in a nice and appropriate environment, do it with close friends who you trust. and know how to handle yourself and what to expect.

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Posted: 04-18-07 13:04pm


For God's sake let's not start spreading fear and paranoia about reefer madness. The fact is that marijuana has fewer side effects than most prescription drugs. Unfortunately, like A.N.Y. O.T.H.E.R. D.R.U.G. Some people develop psychological dependence on it. You can have this from nasal spray. Additionally, some people, especially people prone to anxiety should not smoke it, as it can rarely cause people to feel very anxious or even have a full-blown panic attack. It really sounds like the pot you smoked was laced with something. Unless your friends grew it themselves, you cannot be sure of hthis. just because your friends weren't freaking out doesn't mean anything. All people react differently to medications. I had a very similar experience from taking Zoloft, but I am not going to tell other peolpe who may be helped by it not to take it. So calm down and don't smoke it again if you didn't like it.

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Pot Posted: 04-20-07 20:55pm


Alergy perhaps?

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Posted: 04-25-07 16:25pm


buddy i smoke heavy weed everyday and i have atleast 5 mental health disorders. you shouldnt be telling ppl not to try it cause you cant handle it

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Posted: 04-26-07 17:55pm

Stygian8Angel wrote:

abstractabstract wrote:

thanks for the replies. I haven't touched the stuff ever since. I only think it should be illegal because of the SEVERE price one must pay if he/she has a bad reaction to it.
possible although inside I feel like a wide eyed cat being terrified to death.

I hate you marijuana. I hate you.

and btw, don't talk about how marijuana should be illegal and such just because you had a bad experience. you're very very rare in that regard while alcohol and tobacco, both legal drugs, have a very common occurance of adverse reactions from them. Some people have adverse reactions from advil like stomach ulcers and stuff... wanna outlaw advil also?

you chose to do it, now choose not to do it. just don't bother us with your weed should be outlawed crap.

I agree with this poster. It is unfortunate that the original poster had this experience. Please do not think that your negative experience means that it should be illegal. Terrible things have happened to people on all sorts of legal drugs, prescription or otherwise. The thing I don't understand is why people who had a terrible time keep doing it. Alcohol has ruined countless lives, yet it is still a legal drug. Zoloft made me hallucinate just as you described, yet it is a legal drug. Marijuana actually has been known to have many health benefits. It has allowed terminally and chronically ill people lead more normal lives. Do a little research the next time you start talking about taking rights away from others. Your experience with this does not give you the right to dictate to other people.

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Posted: 04-27-07 08:06am


abstractabstract,I have not read any of the responses to your post so firgive me if I repeat anythign that has already ben said. It does not sound like you were smoking only weed, it sounds like it was laced with something. In all of my short smoking years I have never seen anyone react to pot this way unless it was laced with something else.

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Re: Bad Trip
Posted: 05-03-07 17:04pm

kword wrote:

Abstract,

i wouldn't say that marijuana is completely bad but, it is not for me I used to use it, it may not be for either, I just don't like the downer high of it. If pot makes you go crazy just don't use at all!

I have never heard of any experiences like yours, are you sure that was pot?!?! Lol!

Kword

THC (TETRA HYDRA CANEBINAL)SP? is the active ingredient in pot. A number of other canebinides are present as well. Some make you sleepy. Some give you the munchies. This is the reason for the high price of top grade pot. High amounts of THC compared to lower quantities of unwanted canebinides. If you've experienced a bad "trip" you may well be alergic to it.
Marijuana is also not physically addictive. Psycologicaly yes, physicaly no.

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Posted: 05-25-07 01:45am


I can appreciate your choice to do marijuana, because if you do enjoy it - and it has given people health benefits, then it can't be all that bad, Obviously. But it's when people smoke it on the street during parades, or in the moshpit at music concerts, or even inside at a teenage party. They can't understand what it can do to someone. Me in particular. It means that there are many social events that I can't attend. The smell makes me panic and literally run; in fear that 'it' will start at any moment. The same unexplainable terror that many people experience often in nightmares as young children - and don't know how to put into words. I've been told that I may have an allergy. The original objective of my first post here was to warn people. There's a slight chance you'll have what I had, and I'd do anything to protect people from that; to save them from it. That's all really. So smoke your drug by all means. But for god's sake go somewhere secluded

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Same Effect... Posted: 06-05-07 22:36pm


the effect on me is the same... i feel like the world no longer wants me in, and the life i've been living in was all a dream.. more like a lie... if someone who is good at chemistry or in research in weed. i really want to know what we are truely allergic to... the chemical? or the method of growing.(pesticides and fertilizers) the first 3 to 4 times of getting high was normal and enjoyable. then after about a year, the trips are starting to happen. all my friends are pot smokers, and they believe that the more i smoke the feelign will go away. but this feeling is too overwhelming that i felt like at any second my life will be over and you(me) will be trapped in this invisible cube. the after effect of this trip includes(to me) -the world no longer feels the same -everything tangible doesn't feel"real" anymore -suffer major short term memory lost -difficulty absorbing information -loose concentration easily -bad dreams (for 2 -3 weeks) -very sad and depressed(can also be tressed out) -body pain, and cold chills -you might forget everything you've done the whole day(this happens to me sadly, and theres nothing i can do) -feels isolated and not talkative -twitches and tiredness -sometimes hard to form setences, and remembering key events i had many more problems but this was about a month ago so i don't remember "all" of the symtoms. the major ones are listed and i'm still suffering from some, such suckers + long term memory lost, chills, bad dreams, difficulty concentrating+ absorbing information. i read someone's post saying that liver problem could be an factor, and that could also be true. i have minor liver problems that my doc told me a long time ago, but he said it's nothign to worry about. as well as drinking, where your liver swells up thus creating the "bad live" at the time.(we call it getting Crunked). and as for the throwing up part, it is because you've smoked too much, its caled whitey or green out.(your body turns pal, then you throw up) some of my advice would be. -maybe smoke a cigerette to boost your metal alertness(also help prevent alzemeir's diseas)< still deabating -coffe? but if you have bad dreams, try drinking green tea or have a galss of warm milk before bed time -some physical activity might help use up your energy and give you a better rest -try talkign to your friends and try to avoid any depressing thoughts or idea. i'm no expert, all i wrote here is my own thoughts and opionion. i do not bash or support pot smoking. if an expert actually have something "scientific or medical related" ideas on Weed alergy or Bad Liver = Bad trip please post Sorry for this long post, but.......... i just want to help? a lil...