Well, It's Almost Check Out Time. Posted: 12-24-05 14:47pm
Although I have come to the realization of
what it is that I must do, I have had to
postpone the planned events until after
the holidays are over. Only out of
respect for the feelings of the two
youngest children do I wait. ( the
two oldest, in all likelihood, could care
less - they probably hate my guts
anyway!)
when I go, my apartment will be
spotless, all of my assets will be
arranged so as to be readily available.
In prepairing for the eventual divorice,
I had taken the steps to hide what assets
I could. I emptied the "busness"
account. Here I set looking at $40,000
in one hundred dollar bills. She
does'nt really deserve any of it, I wonder
what 40 grand would look like going up in
smoke after I put a match to it? Well I
would'nt do that anyway....Well most
likley not....One could argue that she
might deserve the money in exchange for
putting up with me.
Found "the practical guide to
suicide"on line to be of value, especially
in dealing with the mental aspects of
prepairing for one's demise. Now I
know why when I attempted this before
(never told anyone) by means of vehicle
exhaust, I failed.
I also know why at about the same
time, when I ate a bottle of perscription
barbituates and washed them down with a
quart of beer, it did'nt work. (nobody
knew about that either ). I cannot
begin to tell you what a terrible feeling
it was to wake up the next morning. I
guess you know when you are a total falure
when you can not even commit suicide
correctly.
Anyway, that was about 20 years
ago....Mid '80s perhaps
you see, everything and everybody
would have been much better off has I
succeeded at that time.
Almost throught all of my life I knew
that I was'nt "right". I had promised
that if I ever got married that I would
not have any children, that I would take
my screwed-up genes to the grave with me
rather than pass them on to another
generation. Boy did I ever medical
question that up! Shure enough the
kids really seem to have more than there
share of problems. May god forgive me
for that.
When all is said and done, everything
will seem to be a terrible accident- no
stigma, no shame.
I can't begin to sort out just what
has brought me to this point. In some
way I wish that I could. Marital
situation had been declining for some
time. I had thought of leaving, but
did'nt want to be a "quitter". Then
one day, my wife told me to leave.
That was somewhat of a relief, as the
almost unberable tension was lifted,but
also was a defeat. An extreme debiliting
defeat. That was two years ago.
I had tried really hard to make the
changes that she wanted me to. At
first I had hoped in some way to get back
together, but as time wore on and she
yelled and berated me when I had to work
overtime and chastied me about my "values'
,or in some way fell short of her ideals,
I slowly came to realize that it was over.
( the part of her scolding and putting
work above family is only my take on the
situation and may or may not be correct,)
the breaking point in our relationship was
an arrest for something increadibly
stupid! Of course being intoxicated at
the time was no help. ( no it was'nt a
dui, although I did manage to get one of
those several years earlier.) when the
counseleor that I (or we, I don't
remember) was seeing told me that things
could never be the same again, I did'nt
understand that. I suppose in some way
I still don't.
Anyway, it seems that my
responsiblity during the past two years
was to supervise the children on saturdays
while my wife was at work. None of
them ever did anything that I told them.
The two oldest only responded with
smart ass answers and insolent stares.
My other "responsiblity" was to take the
youngest on friday nights and return him
on sunday evening. He is on the fast
track to nowhere. At age 9 he has run
away several times, bringing the police to
both my door as well as my wife's.
Suspended from school numerous times:
yells at his mother "shut up you b***h" ;
ect. And generally is lucky if he
gets as high as a "d" on his report card.
(remember the screwed-up defective
genes)
as far as I can tell, perhaps she
dose'nt want to be bothered with either
one of us.
A few weeks ago, I had to work on the
weekend. Told my wife that- screamed
and yelled about my "priorties".
Brought little billy home at 4:00 am
saturday morning. My wife"s van was
not in the driveway. Oh man, for some
reason that really hurt. Tried to
overlook it but it continued to eat at me
so I finally mentioned something to my
wife about it. Her reply was " I
did'nt know I had a curfew." a week or
two later my wife called to ask when I was
bringing
billy home. I told her at about 4:30
as I usually do. She told me that we
were not going to have "family dinner"
that evening. ( if I try to get out of
having " family dinner' I am again berated
about my "values".)
to show you how stupid I am, when she
said that she was buisy and time had
gotten away from her and she was just
going to send out for pizza, I was going
to offer to go and pick it up, but she
continued talking and I could not get any
words in. Oh well, I thought, at
least I don't have to pay for it.
God, am I stupid. We pulled up to the
curb, ( I have never parked in the
driveway since she was out that night).
Billy saved my ass. You see I was to
stupid to realize. Billy said oh,
he's here ( another car parked at the
curb- I thought somewone was visiting the
next door neighbors). Billy said that
when he comes , he and mommy go out.
I felt my stomach drop right through
the floorboards of my truck.
I stayed to supervise the children in
cleaning off the table, and getting it
ready for dinner. (don't ask me why,
god I am so stupid!)
this is getting to be quite a
rambeling discourse, isn't it!
When I got home, I did something that
I have not done in years....I drank until
I passed out. I know that might not
have been the best thing to do but it was
the only way I knew to deal with it at
that time. At least I wasn't able to
feel the pain and total emptyness while
unconscious.
While I realize that our marrage
exists in the legal defination only, I
have to admit that the feeling of betrayal
that I felt was, in some way, more than I
could bear.
Perhaps a week or two later my wife
asked me what was wrong....I replied
"nothing" she said that she knew better,
and asked again what was wrong.....Again I
replied "nothing" she then asked if it
was because she was " going out"......No I
replied, but then I thought that I may as
well admit it. She said she was
sorry (several times) and then went on to
say that she was only human....A delecate
was of putting it I suppose !
Many, many years ago, I promised my
self that I would never cry again.
Nobody!!!!~!~ would ever be able to force
a tear from me!!!~
certainly, that would be an easy
promice to keep, for how could there be
any tears left?
Well, needless to say, I started
balwing right there in the driveway.
Boy how I hated that !
So as the days went on I continued to
ask myself why was I so upset?
Was it that she was having sex and I
haven't in four years or so? No I
didnt think that was it , haven't had any
interest in it , did'nt really miss it
come to think of it.
Was it that I was living in an
apartment with no heat, eating rice and
beans, while I contnued to pay all of the
bills...Mortgage....Electric....Car
insurance.....Water.....Trash
collection....Cable t.V. ( I dont even
have a t.V.) .......Doctors bills...Kid's
extracurricular school activities...Ect?
No, I didnt think that was it
either....It would seem as if that was my
decision ( out of a sence of duty I
suppose) although I will admit....Well all
of my mail goes to the old
address....Never did change it over when I
left, first out of a hope that I would
return...Later when I knew that would not
happen, out of complacency,i guess I just
never did...Anyway (as I ramble on)..I
usually check the mail when I get off of
work ( I pick billy up after work and take
him to my place where it is quiet, with no
distractions and help him with his
homework). In the mail was a telephone
bill. I did'nt take it with me as I
usually would have. The next day
which was my wife's day off, she handed
me "my" mail....And in with it was the
telephone bill from the day before. Go
figure.
Okay, you ask, what does all of this
possibily have to do with me going ahead
and murdering my self?
Perhars this was just the proviberial
"straw".
What I do know, is that for a few
years, I had what I thought that I would
never have.
I had a really hard time growing up
and all of my life I had the feeling of
"being on the outside looking in". If
you don't understand that that's o.K.
It's the best way that I can explain it.
Then all of a sudden I had what
everybody else had!! My god, a
(fairly ) attractive woman who wanted
me....Who liked me, who wanted to be with
me and I had to go and louse it all up
through my stupidity!
I ruined it all and I hate myself for
it! Now I know that I am a falure as
a father and as a husband.....What else
matters!
It was as is fate had given me a taste
of what it is like to be "normal" and than
proved to me again that I am not.
I thought that could always look to
work for satisfaction, for after being
fired from every job that I had I finally
found somewhere where I managed to "fit
in" ( I can't really explain it any
better). Working for the same company in
the highlt volatile; highly cyclical
construction industry for eleven years was
something that I felt somewhat good about.
I have a reputation for generally
bringing the jobs in ahaed of schedule and
under buget. Then one day another
foreman asked me why I push it so hard?
Then he mentioned two other foreman of
ours who fell over dead on the job (heart
attacks) and said...."they all get
finished in the end.....Weather you're
here or not it will still get
finished....They all do.... So much
for my value at work!
I guess I can't really explain any of
this satisfactorily. Not to you, not
really to myself. The emptyness and
worthlessness that haunts me through my
tortured dreams....Dreams that have turned
into nightmares, back on the outside
looking in, but only knowing what it was
like ot be on the "inside" for a few short
years before I ruined it all.....God how I
hate myself for that....As if I had
"normalicy" revealed to me to experience
it and the have it ripped away, replaced
by falure ;emptyness; worthlessness; a
loser again, back on the outside.
I know what you are going to tell
me......"go out and help someone
else".....Get some exercise......Ect.
Ect. Ect. Well just go and
shove it!
Don't want to seem melodramatic about
this but I can't convay the feelings of my
earlier years..... The five years in
the penetenatary....The meanness (?) that
I both experianced growing up and later
dished out.... The years of emptyness
and hurt ....The beatings; the isolation;
the (self-fuilling?) worthlessness that I
experienced growing up...Now that I have
failed again in the ultimate calling of
life.......Well I can't give words to my
true feelings.....The true pain.......
I can't fill the emptyness, but I can
stop the endless pain that I have (and
will) continue to feel...Just have to end
the pain the hurt just have to end it.
Tomorrow will be
christmas.....Somewhere along the way I
will force myself to shower,shave and
change my clothes.....Which I haven't
managed to do for a week......Or is it a
week and a half....(does it even matter?)
while I am forcing myself to do
things....I'll act as happy as I
can.....And mabye if everybody is lucky, I
won't cry.
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uk_ladybird
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Maryland, USA
Dont Do This! Posted: 12-24-05 15:12pm
Please consider how this will only mess
your kids up more..Think how every
christmas they will have to live with the
fact there dad hated his life so much he
took his life !!!! Why now? You know I
took an over dose once and I had my
stomach pumped with charcoal but that was
a wake up call.............Its sounds like
you have had a hard life but thats not
enough to give up!!!! Some people are
dying right now and want to live and you
want to throw it away just like that.Not
thinking about how this will affect people
for the rest of there life!
I cant talk you out of it and like you
said screw us! But we are not going to
say do it but course thats your choice
hell I cant stop you but I hope you can
look in the mirror and realize how by
walking away.Giving up killing yourself
isnt a brave thing its the easiest choice
...To stay and live is harder and takes
affort and you either will or wont!!
I have depression and know how life can be
hard sometimes trust me but I am not
giving up I wont hurt myself and the
people who love me you may not think your
not loved but people dont always show
there love and trust me your kids will
hate themselves for the rest of there life
if you take your life...........Move on
change your life only you can do it ! You
have to want it and its not doing it easy
but you have to try............
Dont take the easy way out!!!!
I am sad to think of somebody on christmas
eve feeling like you given...Up.Let me
tell you a friend of mine was mollested
raped by her own dad all her life and she
recently came out and told people she had
to live with a nightmare and will forever
but she choose to take life and make it
something good !!! You can too!!!
caca happens to us all in life its how you
deal with it that counts get help go to a
dr talk to somebody but killing yourself
is not the answer its really
not..........But if you choose too think
of me too some total stranger who cared
enough on christmas eve to write to
you!!
Whatever you decide may you rest well with
that choice.......
I wont say god bless cause I dont believe
in all that stuff but maybe right now I
hope an angel in some form is with you and
help you.......
Follow your heart ...........
Oh and happy chrsitmas ......
Concerned stranger
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-24-05 16:25pm
I am a christain I do believe in miracles,
and you my friend are in a place for a
big
miracle
if you are brave enough to end it all and
meet your maker immediately, please
consider calling on .Him before you meet
him there.
If you ask ".God show me a better way, a
happier life, a way out of this horror I
feel is my life" "show me you exist and
you can and will help me with this"
"i am asking .God as my last resort" "you
know my thoughts you know my
disappointments, you know my heartache,
help me now I pray"
please say these words out loud to .Him
.He will be there--i know this is true.
I only ask one thing of you---can you
please try this, on christmas eve, for
your children, and for yourself.
Please. And by the way I read every
single word---
god loves you my dear sir, and .He will
help you, just have enough courage
to believe.
God bless you--i send .His power to that
room where you are right now--in .Jesus
name I pray
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no one
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Mesa AZ
Posted: 12-24-05 17:08pm
Remember, I said that I would wait until
after the holidays
thsi is not a "woe is me pity party,
but rather a well thought out rational
plan
for whatever reason I just felt a nee
to vent, not that any bad feelings
were"purged or anything.........
P. S. God hates me anyway
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no one
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Jul 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Mesa AZ
Posted: 12-24-05 17:09pm
Remember, I said that I would wait until
after the holidays
thsi is not a "woe is me pity party,
but rather a well thought out rational
plan
for whatever reason I just felt a nee
to vent, not that any bad feelings
were"purged or anything.........
P. S. God hates me anyway
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Kittykatus
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2005 Posts: 89 Location: United Kingdom
Posted: 12-24-05 17:43pm
Wow I just sat and read your first initial
post. I had to hug myself at one stage;
you've had a very challenging life. And
in a way I have seen the life you are
currently living in someone elses eyes. I
see it in a lot of peoples eyes. In fact,
I think our life is like eastenders(t.V
prog). Except for the pub bit and peggy
mitchell chucking you out of her pub!
I know your not writing on this post for
pity, as you said so yourself. I
personally read it, thinking 'this man is
getting something heavy of his chest', and
good for you. You have so much that is
not necessarily mucked up, but challenging
and complicated. 'life' as I call it.
It's not like the classic hollywood films
where everyone rides off in love and ric
into the sunset as you have found out;
it's more gritty, more realistic, more
trashy, more....Human.
But how can you imagine ending you life,
in a way that you so easily typed? Think
about the aftermath; wherever you choose
to end yourself, someone who hardly knows
you and people that do (your family) will
have to collect, identify, sort out plans,
cry many tears, and i'm sorry my friend,
depsite what you say about your wife and
kids, I believe that they would cry for
you, and you know it. Even people life
the police and forensics shed tears for
people that feel that their lives just
can't go on. Even I shed tears for people
that I hear just leave without realising
their potential. Can you think of someone
picking you up off the floor and looking
down on you; empty, lonely, cold? It
actually sends a pain in me; cause for a
split second I imagine someone I know
doing that. It makes me feel utterly
sick.
Touch your chest now; inside your heart is
still beating, which means you must go on.
It's not slowing down, it's not skipping
a beat, it's still going. Your mind, boy
and soul have said altogether that they
will not cease.
You are no doubt more stronger than you
realise. You could crush a problem with
one finger, because you've felt pain. You
can use that; use it to help others, to
help yourself.
Heck, look at where you are; your paying
off responsibilities, juggling your
family, depsite what they say or do. And
ok you feel you tripped in life. But the
onlty reason we fall in life is so we can
pick oursleves back up again.
I think everyone deep down wants to say
enough, switch off this game we call
'life' and walk away from it. But if we
did, then whats the point of that game
being there at all?
Look u, close your eyes, forget about your
plan to end yourself, and force a smile.
Shout 'f**k it all! You guys aren't
dragging me down just yet!'
i don't know you and you don't know me;
but I know you have more strength in you
than you realise.
Take care (and may you pass through this
holiday with a smile on your face and a
little warmth in your
heart;....................................
............... If I knew you i'd send a
gift)
xx
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 12-24-05 17:58pm
no one
wrote:
remember, I said that I
would wait until after the holidays
thsi is not a "woe is me pity party,
p. S. God hates me
anyway
remember, I said that I would wait until
after the holidays
yes I do remember and recollected while
writing.
This is not a "woe is me pity party,
yes I do know that you believe that you
are being rational and have it all planned
out. Doesnt mean it is the call or
destiny .God has planned for you.
God hates me anyway
and this is the biggest lie of all.
If god was finished with you, if he had
turned his back on you forever, if your
soul was forever lost----you would be
dead, cuz .God does not waste any time or
effort on the unredeemable soul.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 12-24-05 18:09pm
I too have been thru some bad marriages, I
would not give them the benefit of the
doubt. Don't hurt your son, he needs
you! Their are probably others that do
to. Yes the holidays are upon us the
highest rate of depression and suicide and
theft, it is just telling you that you
will meet someone that will treat you like
you should be treated, it takes time and
you could meet someone today or tomorrow.
Don't listen to negative things go for
the positive things in life. Look at
what you have instead of what you do not
have and seek help. You are better than
this and you know it. In life we must
get over hurdles and sometimes it feels
like mountains and sometimes we need some
help and their is nothing to be ashamed
of. Your son could blame himself, if you
did commit suicide, you do not want that
to happen.
Peace,
sandy
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DebRose
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 1
Posted: 12-27-05 11:25am
I'm new to this. Was afraid to join.
Saw your post. Wow! I understand
completely.
What I think is really amazing is that you
have the energy to get all of your things
in order.
I have no energy at all. You seem like
you can really get things together.
Maybe you can help us all get organized.
Not to croak, but maybe to do something,
anything. Well, that's all I wanted to
say. I could use some organization in my
life.
Hope this wasn't too stupid. I don't
know how to do these things really.
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no hope
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2005 Posts: 6 Location: no where
Oh My Gawd Posted: 12-28-05 00:00am
No one,
i was blown away by what I just read. I
just couldnt believe that someone could
put feelings and thoughts down in such a
poetic way. I have the hardest time
getting whats in my mind out and you just
said everything that i've wanted to say.
Exception of the bill's part.
Thank you for putting my thoughts into
words that I can read
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uk_ladybird
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Maryland, USA
Dear Noone Posted: 12-29-05 11:11am
Well are you still alive.........Was
thinking of you today and wondering if
your ok? Guess you might be already gone
? If so I am truly sorry that these
peoples words and thoughts and there time
to give a caca didnt matter to you to make
you change your thoughts?
Wherever you are whatever you do may you
feel calm and safe?
And I hope you write back and say I am ok
!! I really do!
Time will tell
oh and happy new year for sunday! A new
start!
Take care all!
Concerned stranger
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uk_ladybird
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Maryland, USA
No One? Posted: 01-16-06 12:13pm
Are you still around? Or did you go
through with your check out?
I hope you didnt do it? I hope right now
your someplace moving forward and hanging
on?
I think how sad it is ifyour gone!!! Your
a stranger but I think you wanted people
to talk too...........Maybe your are ok?
If you are let me know!
Concerned stranger!
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sadiedales
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 40 Location: orillia
Hi Posted: 04-03-06 20:07pm
Hi there
it's now april 3rd 2006. I wanted to know
if you're ok and well could you please
give an update..
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