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luke_puk

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Attacked By Other Beings..
Posted: 12-29-05 18:00pm

I am writing about my wife. She is 26. She wakes up 2-3 time a weeks exactly at 3 am. If I am not around, she sees a being about 5 foot tall... Looks like a shadow, it has mezmerizing eyes. That thing jumps on her chest and pushes down untill she passes out. Recently she is doing okay. Last week she had a dream one of those things touched her leg... She woke up hyper ventilating...

Does anyone have any similar experience?
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slam

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Posted: 12-30-05 18:14pm

What ever you do, don't let her see a pychiatrist. Psychiatrist will give her unsafe antipsychotic drugs which causes irreversible side effects and changes in brain structure which prohibit recovery.
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aimee23

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Posted: 01-04-06 16:14pm

This is a reply to both of you. Firstly slam I have read your replies a few times suggesting that antipsychotic medication is damaging and psychiatrists are bad people! Which suggests to me maybe you have had a bad experience in mental health services, tell me if I am wrong I am interested to find out why you are so opposed to them.
I personally believe in some cases medication helps people who experience distressing symptoms of psychosis or other mental illnesses, however if given in too high a dose or given a medication that does not suit that person this can lead to a person feeling physically unwell or cause mental health to deteriorate.
With regards to your wife I would advise you to seek professional help if these experiences are distressing for her. She can get there opinion and maybe they would offer medication, but you have a right to request information on the medication before making a decision whether to take it or not. Dont be afraid to ask the doctor questions or challenge decisions they make.
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slam

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Posted: 01-05-06 14:46pm

Mainstream psychiatrist thinks schizophrenia is a mental disease which they cannot back with science! Minority of them thinks schizophrenia is a healing process of the brain. The fact is that people do recover from schizophrenia without medication! The success is much higher! Have you read "mad in america".

Mainstream psychiatrist are off course! I just want truth to be told. There are enough test that shows the new antipsychotics are dangerous!
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aimee23

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Posted: 01-05-06 15:13pm

Hello! I havent read mad in america but I will now find out about it. I take it you live in america? The advances there are better than in england where I live. However I have to insist that in the short term if not for the long term, medication is helpful to people suffering from psychosis of any form. It gives them a break from the awful distress they go through if experiencing hallucinations and delusions. Some people are not able to sleep for days which in turn has an affect on a person mental health. I am interested to know if you have had any experience in mental health either as service user or member of staff.
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slam

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Posted: 01-05-06 16:21pm

Soteria: through madness to deliverance is a great book i'm reading right now. This is how people should be treated when they have a schizophrenic break, not with dangerous medication!
Loren mosher(a psychiatrist) that went against mainstream psychiatrist! This is his book.

My experience with a psychiatrist may seem good however I know he withheld information! I don't want to argue because he has the upperhand. He can force drugs on me! So i'm silent, agreeing 'yes doctor" like a good boy!

My god, psychiatrist will try to make shyness a mental disorder! The drug manufactures will make billions! They tried that on homosexuality but they lossed. :d
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slam

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Posted: 01-05-06 17:09pm

The old antipsychotics did better in the short term during the trials but in the long run people without medication did better! It's well documented!The new antipsychotics work the same way by blocking the neurotransmitters but with less side effects but it is still dangerous! Data will show that eventually! There are already some data that says it's dangerous but I guess not enough. Imagine millions on dangerous antipsychotics that can have irreversible outcomes and trapped in using them for the rest of there lives. This is plain evil! Do I think psychiatrist are bad? medical question yes!
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kittengirl

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Posted: 01-11-06 12:50pm

This may sound really weird, but you might want to check out several of these links regarding something called "old hag syndrome":

http:// paranormal.About.Com/library/weekly/aa1120 00a.Htm

http://theshadowlands. Net/ghost/sleep.Htm

http://www.Legendsm agazine.Net/90/askpsi.Htm

http ://sleepparalysis.Dnswh.Com/what_is_sleep_ paralysis.Htm

not everything is in medical books...That's my theory anyway..
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HappyHappy

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Posted: 07-03-07 12:03pm

Has anybody else had an experience like that?
Has anyone ever seen anything like that, a shadow person?
You should hear what they say about them at sacredmagick.com .
Look it up.
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HappyHappy

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Posted: 07-03-07 12:05pm

or sacredmagick.net, you get it.
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naomi48

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Posted: 07-03-07 23:00pm

Interesting that you'd come up with this old thread... Have *you* ever had any similar type of hallucination?
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Philo

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Posted: 07-04-07 10:37am

It's professionally called "sleep paralysis" (check out a good article on wikipedia). I get it and it's harmless, although pretty scary when you're going through it. Actually it's very nasty, come to think of it. But lots of people get it and they're not mentally ill or anything like that. I read a scientific report on it and the author said that it probably stems from a hyperstimulation of the area of the brain that is responsible for vigilance (thus the watching of the figure and the feeling of danger). Go figure. It one of the greatest mysteries of science, not metaphysics.
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HappyHappy

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Posted: 07-04-07 17:12pm

Why no, I haven't had any experiences like that at all.

Why are they all seeing the same things? A bunch of different people seeing exactly the same things, seems a bit phishy. Is that explained just as the way this phenomenon happens, seeing a shadow person in your sleep, that's the phenomenon? Why would vigilance have anything to do with seeing a shadow person I wonder.
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Posted: 07-05-07 09:43am

gudazdead wrote:
Why would vigilance have anything to do with seeing a shadow person I wonder.

Because the monster or the person is intesely watching you. It's supposed to be the fragment of your mind that's responsible for vigilance that is personified in the monster.
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FANTABULOUS

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Posted: 08-08-07 23:06pm

Philo wrote:
It's professionally called "sleep paralysis" (check out a good article on wikipedia). I get it and it's harmless, although pretty scary when you're going through it. Actually it's very nasty, come to think of it. But lots of people get it and they're not mentally ill or anything like that. I read a scientific report on it and the author said that it probably stems from a hyperstimulation of the area of the brain that is responsible for vigilance (thus the watching of the figure and the feeling of danger). Go figure. It one of the greatest mysteries of science, not metaphysics.


I have had that too. Normally the mind is disconnected from the part of the brain that deals with motor control, once one falls asleep. That way if you have a dream that has you running, your true legs are not doing the same.

However, in some case this disconnection occurs prior to falling asleep. In my case I could not open my eyes, nor sit up, and I had a very hard time breathing.

But the fun part that happened occasionally, was that just after the sleep paralysis, I would fall into a dream, and this time it happens prior to losing complete conscious. As the result of this, the dream was so real, so colorful, and one could smell the freshly cut grass, the flowers, etc. It was amazing.

HappyHappy wrote:
Why are they all seeing the same things? A bunch of different people seeing exactly the same things, seems a bit phishy.


I have a terrible English vocabulary, and always have.

The " Voices " used to laugh at me because of this, and then would speak in words that I had never heard of before. I would then write down what they said, and then look up the words in the dictionary and find them eventually after managing to get the spelling right.

It tuned out that what they said was directly related to the situation that they were commenting about at that very same time.

But that was just the beginning.
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FANTABULOUS

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Posted: 08-12-07 10:51am

It's hard to know what face to trust.

But it can be quite comical !

http:// www.outersecrets.com/real/image/forum/0cri me4.gif
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agathe

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Posted: 09-01-07 18:10pm

This thread reminds me of an old episode of "are you afraid of the dark?"
An old nickolodean show, in the nineties.

Anyway this episode started with these kids who get ahold of these special glasses, from a magic shop or something, when the kids put the glasses on they see these shadow people, another dimension I guess. I forget exactly how the show progresses, needless to say the children do the wrong thing and they get trapped in the other dimension.

What the hell is that all about? These things were on tv in the nineties.

Look up this old episode if you get the chance.
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FANTABULOUS

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Posted: 09-02-07 23:22pm

What is not understood, is always understood. At least that is how the psychiatrists seem to behave.

Now it is said that MRI scans say that the brain of a schizophrenic is abnormal. Just imagine if some guy was an extreme genius, thus had an abnormality of the brain, which thus created this advanced and brilliant mind.

The psychiatrists would have to put the person on meds to bring him back down to being normal. But at least such an abnormality would be detectable via MRI, and hopefully caught in time before the person became to smart.

After all, this person would be so advanced that he could see things that the rest of us could definitely not understand at all, because we couldn't even see what they could see to begin with.

We'd probably start saying that these kinds of people were delusional or something, since their vision was beyond ours.

Thank goodness for MRI's.
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