Anyone here ever had an unassisted birth?
I'm from the uk and seriously considering
having one. Would like to chat to other
mums especiall yin the uk who've had an
unassisted birth or are planning on having
one.
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3kizz
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 308
Re: Unassisted Birth Posted: 04-03-06 12:59pm
sophiesmiles
wrote:
anyone here ever had an
unassisted birth? I'm from the uk and
seriously considering having one. Would
like to chat to other mums especiall yin
the uk who've had an unassisted birth or
are planning on having
one.
what exactly are you talking about
unassisted birth?
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 7892 Location: *UPTOWN*NEW ORLEANS*, La
Posted: 04-03-06 14:03pm
I'm guessing she means with no .Dr s and
at home. But I couldn't imagine a birth
with out at least a mid wife, no matter
where you're from. Ya know? Unless
you're trained in .Midwifery, than I have
no idea how you could pull off a totally
unassisted birth...
I know how much I hate hospitals and
wouldn't mind having an at home
birth...But it's too late for that! I'm
36.3 weeks and already signed my papers
for the hospital... :'o(
they're just sooo cold and reek of alcohol
(the antistetic)!!
I'd rather be in my own element at home...
Oh well...Maybe next time!!
Sarah
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3kizz
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Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 308
Posted: 04-03-06 18:44pm
Oh god no, someone has to be there, what
if there's complications. I won't wish
that on anyone, but you need someone there
to help you
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Tess B
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Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Aberdeen
Posted: 04-04-06 07:31am
Hi sophie,
i wouldn't want an unassisted birth but I
do want to have as active a labour as
possible!
Pm me if you want to talk, i'm from the uk
as well!
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erinjacob
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Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 219 Location: australia
Jess Posted: 04-26-06 00:50am
Im not quite shore what an un assisted
birth is but im giving birth at home with
a midwife would that be the same or are
there no docs or midwifes
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OaTmEaLfAiRy
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Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 192 Location: Iowa
Posted: 04-30-06 07:18am
I think you have to have at least a
midwife. I'm betting there are loopholes
that could make unassisted birth (@ home)
count as child neglect. It wouldn't be
the first time they've gone out on a limb
like that. I've heard stories of women
being court ordered to have c-sections
because if they don't they'd get charged
with child neglect.
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tspowell3
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Joined: 19 May 2006 Posts: 1
Different Perspective Posted: 05-19-06 10:24am
I have to disagree with all the other
posters here, I am all for unassisted
homebirth. I have spoke with many who
have done it and read many books on the
subject. I plan to have one myself this
oct. I feel it is the safest way to go.
Having a midwife is like bringing the
hospital to your house. God didn't fail
to make us capable of giving birth without
assistance, if he did we would not be
alive as a species today. Millions and
millions around the globe have birth this
way, it's the most common way to birth.
You didn't need help getting pregnant, and
I promise ya don't need any help getting
the baby out. Our bodies are made for
this. Just as a cat can birth a litter
of kittens all by itself, so can you birth
a child. I think it's best to have the
husband help, he put that baby in you, let
him recieve the child, complete the circle
of intercourse. A flood of emotions are
directed to the person who catches the
baby, who better than your husband to
receive that bonding love, there's no way
I will let an ob/widwife steal what is
rightfully his. Birth is a sexual
experience, would you have the ob watch
and help you concieve the child? I
didn't think so.
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OaTmEaLfAiRy
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Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 192 Location: Iowa
Posted: 05-25-06 04:19am
Actually, do you know how many dogs and
cats die from giving birth unassisted?
You *did* need help getting pregnant,
unless you're asexual, in that case you're
probably being poked and prodded by crowds
of doctors by now.
If you get an actual midwife it's not like
bringing the hospital to your home. She
will come with a few pieces of equipment,
but not a sterile room, with nurses
parading in and out and machines beeping
all around.
The big question here is, what's best for
baby? Is it better to have some sort of
supervision (by a knowledgable person, not
by your best friend, or a random neighbor,
unless they have proper training)? Or
would you rather risk the baby and your
own health so you can feel all powerful
and self-sufficient?
I hope you answer correctly, but if you
don't (if you answer thinking about you,
instead of your child) then I hope you
feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing
that you've gone and injured or even
killed your child because you thought you
knew better.
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erinjacob
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Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 219 Location: australia
Jrss Posted: 05-26-06 08:30am
I agree you are not trained to no evrythin
my friend just had a home bitrth she had a
mid wife there but evrythin was goin well
so she steed back an let the partner
deliver the bub but there was a trained
person there an there not strangers like
hospital you see these people evry week
till the baby is born I think I would
rather hav some one there just incas you
never no there were more deaths when
people delived there own kids there arnt
as maney now think about it properly befor
decidin
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 7892 Location: *UPTOWN*NEW ORLEANS*, La
Posted: 05-29-06 12:38pm
I had my baby at the hospital but had
.N.O. Medical intervention. No .I.V or
.Epidural. I did allow oxygen to be givin
to me due to the baby's heart rate started
to drop. But it was actually from the
monitor sliding around.
I could have definately done it at
home!!!!
Sarah
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freebirth2
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Jul 2006 Posts: 5
Posted: 07-25-06 18:34pm
After reading this I have to say
something. I wrote this and i'am not
trying to scare or offend anyone. I'am
encouraging you to do the research on your
options, the birth process, and the
dangers of medical intervention. Please
women think for yourself.
Unassisted childbirth
it may be the safest choice
unassisted childbirth means birth without
a doctor or midwife. This may
sound risky, but women were designed to
give birth without assistance. Women
died in childbirth not because birth is
risky but because of poor living
conditions. Women know how to give
birth, but women have lost trust in
their bodies. When a woman enters the
hospital, a stressful environment, her
body
begins preparing for the fight-flight
response, in which her body begins
draining blood and oxygen from the uterus
and other organs and sends it to
the legs. This leads to a long and
painful labor. No wonder why we have so
many problems we are in the wrong
environment. Your body is saying there is
an animal out there this labor needs to
stop so she can run. Then doctors
interfere with even more dangerous
interventions. The c-section rate in this
country is so high not because birth is
risky, but because it was never
meant to medically managed and controlled.
All those important hormones
that allow birth to proceed naturally and
cause the fetus ejection reflex,
which births the baby quickly and easily
without any effort from the mother,
are stopped not only by the flight or
flight response, but also because of
the drugs, and the presence of an
observer. Doctors interfere with
dangerous
drugs like pitocin (synthetic oxytocin)
which obviously can’t work, it can’t
cross the blood brain barrier, also
cytotec, prostaglandin gel, all these
drugs cause uterine rupture, infection,
uterine hyper stimulation which causes
fetal heart rates to drop, hemorrhage,
high blood pressure, titanic
contractions which lead women to want an
epidural, and many other problems
. The fda has not even approved the use
of cytotec for labor. Epidurals cause
many problems as well such as dulling of
the mother’s ability to get the
baby out, which leads to forceps and
c-sections and causes babies to be born
blue. Also kids whose mothers had an
epidural during birth are at an
increased risk of drug addiction and
suicide later in life. Please women do
the research and you will find that
everything they do to women is dangerous
including routine procedures. For
example, episiotomies first of all there
is no proof that they are safe or
beneficial, yet half the women in this
country will get one, they permanently
weaken the pelvic floor, cause major
bleeding, destroy sexual sensations, and
mother nature has her own way of
suctioning, the pressure of the walls of
an uncut vagina squeezes the baby’s
shoulders and chest causing fluids to burp
out of the baby easily and
naturally. In the squatting position you
are less likely to tear there is
more than enough room to birth any baby
whether it is breech, large baby,
etc. Women were designed to labor and
birth in an upright position. The lithomy
position is the worst position, you are
working against gavity, and the baby is
putting pressure on major blood vessels
thus causing fetal heart rates to drop.
Most hospitals will not let you birth in
the squatting position. Patience,
privacy and no
interference either physically or mentally
are key to a safe birth; you will
not get that in a hospital or with a
midwife. Even animals know this; they
know any interference will kill them
that’s why they seek privacy. Birth is
a matter of letting it happen rather than
making it happen. Most complications
happen because of hospitals. Homebirth
would only be dangerous if all those
dangerous medical interferences came from
the hospital to the
home.
Doctors won’t tell you the truth if they
did they would lose their money.
Women should be outraged by what doctors
do to them in hospitals. It’s
time women stopped putting trust in
doctors and started putting trust in
their body’s ability to give birth.
Women birthing in hospitals are birthing
in ignorance of self and of the birth
process. Please women claim birth for
you. If a woman educates herself well
there is little need for transfer.
Most variations of the normal if they do
arise can be handled at home because a
woman’s
greatest tool in birth is her instinct
when she uses it. There sometimes is a
need for hospitals but not for the
majority of women. Good food, fresh
air, exercise, laughter, love, and support
are the best prenatal care, not
needless tests that are harmful stress you
out and make you fearful. Trust
in your bodies and let your instinct guide
you, birth your children safely
and peacefully at home. Wouldn’t it be
more joyful and intimate for couples
to birth their children the way they
conceived them in the privacy of your
own home. There are 28 countries that
have better infant morality rates than
the us what do they have more of
homebirths!! Poison is wrapped up and
hidden in “homey delivery suites”,
pastel color hospital gowns, and at the
core of it are ignorance, violence, abuse,
and rape. Imagine how much better
our world would be if we women begin to
birth our children the way mother
nature intended it, at home away from all
those dangerous medical
interferences surrounded only by love and
support, and the women free to
follow her instinct, and free to allow her
body to work the it was designed
to since the beginning of time. Birth is
normal, and safe. Interference is risky.
Mother nature has perfected childbirth,
and we screw it up the minute we walk into
the hospital.
Please women I encourage you to have an
unassisted pregnancy and birth it can be
the best choice.
Thank you
unassisted childbirth supporter
suggested reading:
unassisted childbirth by laura shanley
unassisted homebirth: an act of love by
lynn griesmer
obstetric myths versus research realities
by henci goer
gentle birth, gentle mothering by sarah j
buckley
immaculate deception ii by suzanne arms
silent knife, open season by nancy cohen
hard labor by susan l. Diamond
the rape of the 20th century by jasmine
smythe (essay on birthlove.Com)
the power of pleasurable childbirth by
laurie morgan
www.Unassistedchildbirth.C
om www.Unhinderedliving.Com/c
hildbirth.Html www.Empoweredchildbirth.Co
m www.Sarahjbuckley.Com
"there is something wrong with a society
that insists on making a complicated,
expensive medical emergency out of a
normal physiological function primitive
women have been doing by themselves for
centuries"... Cathi cogle
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Eyes Wide Shut
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Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 7892 Location: *UPTOWN*NEW ORLEANS*, La
Posted: 07-25-06 19:32pm
We were created to birth babies. Our
bodies were especially designed to push
out a baby. The pain is a mental test to
see if your are courageous enough to bare
the intensity of giving birth.
Some women are and some just aren't.
I'm one of those women who understand that
women have had their babies on the kitchen
table for centuries, what makes my birth
so much different? Maybe i'm old
fashioned, but it's just how I feel.
I would encourage a drug free, less
invasive birth anytime. Having the
control of my child's birth the entire
time, was amazing and I pat myself on the
back everyday for it.
