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NeedToLift

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Attention All Alan Ritz Readers!!!
Posted: 01-18-06 21:58pm

Hi,

i'm reading alan ritz's book and having some difficulty understanding what combination of supplements I should be taking. I would also like to discuss what worked for you and maybe what didn't worked for you. Maybe we can share our results from following his advice in hopes of learning from each other.

If your interested in discussing your findings and willing to assisit me with finding the ideal multivitamin/mineral formula please private message me with your email address or feel free to leave a message in this post.

Only those who have read his book , please reply.

Thanks
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den71

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Posted: 01-19-06 08:30am

I just started reading it, alot of info to sort through. Still trying to decide what to try. I don't mind taking pills everyday, but if I have to take 20 different things and order them online, etc, i'll never be consistent!

So I am trying to refine it down to the essentials. Some others here have stronger opinions on it.
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NeedToLift

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Alan Ritz
Posted: 01-20-06 00:06am

That's the thing about his book. He doesnt give a straight forward one size fits all formula. That can be a good thing and a bad.

Personally, I have no idea what I should be taking and i'm a very active person. I been weight training for years and I have a good understanding of the effect of some of these things (eg. Arginine). I'm already taking vitamins (7 different kinds in one pack) everyday and i've been using whey protein for years! Because of this i'm not sure if I should continue using what i'm using and add more to it or dump everythign all together and go for higher end products. This for me has caused a lot of confusion.

Hopefully we can get more insight on what products are being recommended and why and what's workign for peeople.
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den71

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Posted: 01-21-06 01:03am

I think your suppose to find out what your deficient in and supplement that area.
I am real unclear on the arginine...Am I supposed to take l-arginine and alpha-ketoglutarate or just one or the other. He says all this stuff is cheap but if you buy it all online ph.Grade (as opposed to walgreens) it is not cheap at all.

Choline: he uses 1000mg a day but if I buy lecithin instead...It only contains 140mg of phos-choline per pill. Am I supposed to take 5-6 of these a day?

I am positive my serotonin levels are low (anxiety disorder) but he only says 5-htp can lift this and he says don't take more than 1 bottle. Well, I have gone through many bottles of 5-htp in my life and I still think I am low on serotonin.

The book is not at all simple to read and use, I have no clue how to control this muscle he's talking about.

I haven't given up, just sort of lost on some stuff...
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NeedToLift

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Alan Ritz
Posted: 01-21-06 01:40am

Check you pm den 71, sent you a msg. Hope it helps. Let me know
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entheogens

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Supplements
Posted: 01-27-06 20:06pm

Well, he suggests several supplements. One of them is some type of lecithin for the choline (or get choline itself). You need to get the type that you mix with a drink in order to get an amount of choline out of the lecithin that would amount to 1 gram (1000mg). He suggest dividing it up during the course of the day, presumable due to the acidity of the stuff.
I would not recommend taking the choline late in the day/evening as it can wire you up. According to ritz, you should take this with b-5 (pantothenic acid)

he also recommends taking arginine for the no.

Reading between the lines, I would say that the multi-vitamin he recommends is the one by "life extension". He states at a certain point in the book a number of ingredients a good multivitamin would have. When I typed those into google, life extension came up. I know this company and they are reputed to have very good products.

Ritz also promotes builing up the serotonin levels. He recommends 5-htp to this end.

Of course, there are more and even taking the above would depend on your particular needs.
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karateka38

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Posted: 02-12-06 14:33pm

I'm new here, but this is one of the only places i've seen alan ritz mentioned. I am 19, and I recently bought his book, but i'm concerned about taking supplements and such. Does anybody know whether the things he suggests may have any adverse effects due to my age?
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blackbird

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Posted: 02-13-06 18:49pm

Sorry guys, but alan ritz (if that is his real name) is a fraud. Dont you find it weird that the reviews for his book on amazon.Com are wriiten in the same style and form? Isnt it odd that all the reviewers used their real name? Isnt it odd that when you click on the link that shows what other products the review has reviewed, nothing else shows up!? Could he have just posted all those reviews?

A couple days a go, I saw some negative reviews, one star, come up on the page and the next day they were deleted. Hmm....

Its clear that this guy decided to self publish an overpriced book promising outrageous results to a group so easily marketable. Hes probably laughing all the way to the bank right now. It sucks, I know. I also bought this piece of garbage...
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shiatsusharkey

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Alan Ritz's Book
Posted: 02-16-06 13:33pm

Hello to the group, this is my first post. I am awaiting mr. Ritz's book and am wondering if the members of the group who have read it could give a review of it, I will also review it after I read it. I agree that the claims made of the book are huge, but what if they are true. Perhaps the reviews on amazon are real, and the reason the people use their real name and have only posted this review is that they truly believe in the book. Maybe the negative reviews were posted by authors of competing books on the subject. Just another view of the situation. Anyhow, I have been dealing with pe for too many years and have tried all of the "cures", but yet here I am still dealing with it. So am I praying that these claims are true, yep!!! Thanks for you time folks.
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HarryH

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Is Ritz a Fraud
Posted: 02-19-06 12:37pm

Hi.

My first post too. I ended up here by googling the vip muscle to help decide if this book is a crock or not. Have found several references here to ritz and an apparently related method by jin.

I agree with blackbird that the reviews on amazon seem fraudulent. Especially the one that praises the organization of the book. This is without a doubt the most poorly written and disorganized book i've ever read. It wanders so far off topic at times that it seems he just sat down one day and started writing with no plan as to organization or scope. This makes him a poor author and possibly a deceptive marketer but not necessarily a fraud.

This book is content rich. There is a wealth of information in it. I started with no prior knowlege of the biochemistry of erections. After the first read I ended up with ... No useful knowlege on the biochemistry of erections and no useable plan on how to proceed. Not because it wasn't there... But because it was so poorly presented.

But i'm now going through the book for a 2nd time and essentially rewriting it for myself, reoganizing the info in a format I can refer to and extracting lists of the various supplements ritz recommends. I now have a good understanding of the biochemistry at the core of his recommendations. His approach now makes sense to me and I hope to soon have a plan for which supplements to take and how much.

I'm not a doctor but so far I haven't read anything in these forums that contradicts the basic ideas in this book. I have read here very similar recommendations that some have claimed to have been helpful. I am hopeful that I will see some benefit from ritz's book, or these forums, I don't really care which

for the record my reason for purchasing it is pe.

I can maintain an erection for a long time (well.. Long enough) if masturbating or being fellated but once I penetrate can rarely last more than a minute. Unless it's my 2nd encounter in a short while. I am 50 and have been like this as long as I can remember. I also experience very little sensation when I ejaculate. Most of my sexual pleasure comes from watching my partner's pleasure.

I would like to keep this thread going as a way for those of us making our way through this book to help each other and share results.

I haven't yet begun taking the supplements as i'm still trying to put that list together. But I have begun the daily massage of vip, pc, testicles and the base of the penis and have found my vip (i think) and been able to isolate flexing it.

I do have a question. According to ritz, my age group should only ejaculate once every 2 weeks. He implies that the increased pleasure i'll experience from vip induced multiple-orgasms will more than make up for this. Aren't ejaculating and orgasms synonymous? Is he suggesting that the two can be separated? If so, has anyone had any luck doing so?

Does anyone else have any results, good or bad, to share regarding ritz's book?
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den71

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Posted: 02-19-06 17:21pm

I think you summed it up pretty good harryh.

Poorly written, but has good info in there.
Spends more time talking about how to control your woman than explaining the vip muscle usage (which happens to be a major claim of the book).I still have no idea what to do with this muscle, I just know where it is.
I don't need advice on pocket sweet spots, how to talk to my children, or to kick out a gf if she's lying. Also, trying to sell me your next book when you've yet to back up the claims of this one is a bad idea.


It's a wandering stream of info that would get a failing grade in any english class I ever took. (much like this post!)

and yes, some of those reviews are obviously planted. As a matter of fact, after reading the book and getting a feel for his awkward writing style, it's obvious to me that he wrote at least a few of them.

That being said-- $23 is not alot of money and I am glad I own it.
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HarryH

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Posted: 02-19-06 18:18pm

A question. Can someone else with the book (or anyone who happens to know the answer) please weigh in on this?

On pgs 37-40 he talks about the benefits of gla rich oils in improving the elasticity of penal tissue to allow maximum growth. Not from flaccid to hard, but to increase the size of your erection over time. The discussion also talks about the role of collagen – to stiffen & thicken your skin.

He further says that from the age of 25 or sometime in your thirties you will lose about 1 inch of length over time due to reduced collagen levels and non-replenished dht receptor loss. Then recommends collagen replenishing cream to maintain overall skin tone and minimize size loss. However, he also states that as a reader of the book we are “perfectly prepared to … to fight [the loss of size]”, implying to me that the gla rich oil treatment should be continued. So i’m not sure, being well over 35, whether I should use the gla rich oil, the collagen replenishing cream, or both?

Any opinions on this?
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tedmoe

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Alan Ritz - Real Or Fraud
Posted: 02-24-06 01:39am

I would advise anyone not to buy this book, at least not new. Having studied some pathophysiology, I found his info on nervous system chemistry possibly viable. However, after that the info, as others have already written, was scattered, disorganized, confusing and sometimes contradictive.

I am no grammar star, but I did graduate from college and with all the absurd grammatical errors in this book, I seriously thought english was not this author’s first language or that the book was poorly translated into english. Simple grammar mistakes in a "published" book do not give rise to the validity of the information or the author.

Also, tell me how do you trademark a muscle as he has with the “vip” muscle. Type that in a search engine and of the millions of sites the only other mention of it is a type of a golf club. I’m sure his response would be that it is because of his trademark. By the end of the book, when he suggest whipping out the plastic vagina in the middle of sex with your partner and screwing it instead to prove your commitment to your partner, I knew then ritz was wacked.

Trying to keep an open mind, I am trying to go all in on the supplement aspect to see if this is valid (i bought the supplements before I was told by ritz that screwing a piece of plastic is 99% like the real thing). I have been trying the supplements he recommended once I figured out what I think he is suggesting. As for the vip muscle, I have my doubts. All I can feel is my pc in the location he has said the vip to be. It has been one week and thus far I have had zero results. I am doubtful it will work, however, the money has been spent so I plan to keep at it. I’ll let you know how it turns out
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den71

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Posted: 02-25-06 13:42pm

I was pretty much convinced that english is not his first language when I read the book.
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HarryH

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Posted: 02-25-06 16:48pm

He mentions his mother and sister at some point and they both have indian sounding names so I assume he is the same nationality. Well, as he might say english is certainly not his "ace in the slave".
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stand_upz68

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Alan Ritz.vip
Posted: 02-25-06 18:29pm

Hi all.

I have read on this forum some good info..I have also just bought the book of alan ritz.

I must say his info on the vip muscle is very bad explain.Have it cost to much to make a pictures on the muscle in the book.

Some easy drawn pictures to explain little more detail..

The book is about this amazing vip muscle he told everybody to stop use the pc muscle for erection and premature training.The tao system and kamasutra etc that have use this for many years it all wrong he said..

I can live whith that but then he must show ous what he talk about and give ous good info about that.And prove that pc muscle exercise is not good..

But I cant find proof for that..I have it hard to find this vip muscle.Like whith all things in life,we are little insecure whith new things but if someone show ous carefully and in detail so we understand it then its no problem..

Then the all supplement he talk about,i really dont now what to use.He mention so dam many differents vitamins..It seems like he use more vitamins then bodybuilders..He,,hi...

I want to use say about 3-5 max each day,but in his book he talk about so dam many,in the end I dont now what to use..

He then talk about he talk to a young boy that like to use extacy and give him 3 vitamin to use to ahve better erection.Then he change and talk about some other vitamins.But I dont understand what the boy will take in the end..Did he use all 3 or only this amazing honeymoon vitamin..

Sorry to vein,but it hard to understand this book..Why cant he say use this 3 vitamins if u cant find this use this..Etc..Something like that..

He have many info in his book,thats good..But is sounds like a teenager wrote about his summer break and have smoke some weed..

He say something good in the book and u want to now more then he suddenly change and talk about girl friends and use sex help..

Sorry to complain I like the book in some ways but am use to learn something useful when I buy books like this..But after this book I dont know what to think and do..He,,hi


if someone can help me whith all this problem I have..He,,hi and give me some easy and good tips I would be most thankful..

Take care and good luck to find the vip muscle if u find it mark it whith a pencil and take a photo and post here..Lol

stand_upz68
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Spanky2005

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Posted: 02-25-06 18:45pm

Hey man, your english is sooooo terrible. Man, thats the worse couple of paragraphs I ever read in my life. I am not an american either, but your language truly sucks!! Where the hell did you learn english?
Your english teacher needs a good spanking!!!!! Lol

but you know something. I liked reading your post. You got your point across and that's all that matters ! "he,,hi" !!!! Lol
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stand_upz68

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Alan Ritz.vip
Posted: 02-25-06 18:58pm

He,,hi

thanks for the answer..

I live in europe..Am no teacher in grammy or english am teacher in it
pc support etc.Nothing fancy but it pays my bills.

And when I wrote on forum am not so careful whith my spelling sorry for that..If I must think all time what to wrote and spell,then I forget what I want to say and wrote..And yes am what u call chatting speller.Wrote fast and sloppy..He,,hi

sorry for that but hopefully u can read my pm..

So like before all tips u can give me,i will been thankful..

Stand_upz68
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rodney44

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Posted: 02-26-06 22:23pm

I just bought the book. I got the impression that the author's "english" probably derives from a form of pidgin language used in bombay or calcutta.

Surprisingly, several safe supplements appear in alan's book. Certainly l arginine is recommended by no less than the noble prize laureate dr ignarro. Dr ignarro has a website, "www.Ignarro.Com"
i notice that many of alan's vitamins also appear in dr ignarro's book. "no more heart disease."
just to be safe I will stick to only those vitamins and supplements which are also found on dr ignarro's research.
Overall, I am impressed with some of the supplement advice.

But I am not yet certain that I have found the "vip" muscle. Nor am I certain as to how much I should use it. Alan claims - contracting the vip too much can cause a muscle "fever"???
Whatever that "fever" is i'd prefer to avoid it for now.

Can anyone describe or send an anatomical drawing from the internet that might precisely indicate where the vip is? If it's real, there should be a medical drawing available somewhere on the web. Of course if it exists, the name for this muscle will be some whacky latin-medical term.

Any tips on how to contract the vip without contracting the pc muscle?

At first try, this feels like mission impossible.

In answer to someone else's question. Yep, ejaculation and orgasm are not the same same event. There is a wealth of credible literature on this subject at jack johnston's website, "www.Multiples.Com"

80% of this book will be relegated to the trash bin of history.
But, there is a remaining 20% that I find intriguing.

Or, am I - are we - all searching for a "holy grail" that does not exist?
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Macbeth

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Posted: 03-08-06 15:26pm

(first off, this is not my native tongue so pardon me.)

this thread is turning out to be a recovery group for alan ritz victims. I personally joined this forum because when you google his name, everywhere else you just get recommendation after dubious recommendation about the book: the same exact text in several book review sites. (there is an interesting thread in an aimoo help forum, where obviously mr. Ritz himself had asked to delete a negative review of his book. ) this is the only place where it's actually discussed.
It's just unreal how stalinisque the internet can be.


The book is a mess. The author has... An interesting personality. (i actually kinda feel sorry for him. ) i've read the book several times now, have taken the supplements (i'm a recreational bbder so there was not much new), have tried his vip method of orgasming for weeks (it's the prostate gland, not a muscle btw), the whole 9 yards... Simply doesn't work.

The guy is ingenious in one way: in using the internet and ebooksellers to market a substandard book. I recommend using your money on some flavored condoms instead. :)
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