Should this "child" be aborted, who should law give the right to decide?
Yes, Mother only
44%
[ 4 ]
Yes, doctor only
0%
[ 0 ]
Yes, Father Only
0%
[ 0 ]
Yes, Mother and Doctor only
22%
[ 2 ]
Yes, Father and Doctor only
0%
[ 0 ]
Yes, Mother and Father only
33%
[ 3 ]
Yes, Mother, father or doctor
0%
[ 0 ]
Total Votes : 9
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Izzy
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Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Womans Rights 2 Posted: 01-25-06 12:39pm
Ok same situation as pervious but instead
of woman giving her consent to the
procedure, the doctor unifies the sperm
and egg, the resulting so called "child"
is an accidental creation (unwanted)
should the zygote, embryo or fetus be
aborted?
Who should have the right to choose?
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Tylanas
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Posted: 01-25-06 13:54pm
So it's an unwanted fetus in an artificial
womb? If the couple is married, then
they should both have a say in whether the
child lives, because the woman's body is
no longer the issue here. The doctor has
no say at all, since he's the once who
caused the accident in the first place.
He must report the "pregnancy" to the two
donors and let them decide what to do with
it.
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 01-25-06 15:00pm
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
im not sure if I read right but ..The
women didnt consent ..And the doctor did
the procedure anyways..? Um has this ever
happened ..And I think if I were the women
I would sue ..Because doctors arent
allowed to do procedures or even touch a
patient without consent..So I dont think
anyone would ever have to make this
decision...Because I doubt any doctor
would just up do that to someone that
doesnt even want it..Seems kind of
pointless to me..
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Izzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 01-26-06 13:23pm
I would say once the child is created,
there should be no one, not even the
mother or father who can make the decision
to kill another human being and I simply
cant believe that pro choice people would
go this far... Where its no longer about
terminating a pregnancy but killing a
unwanted child.... But it has alwaays
been that way... I was just makng sure!
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Tylanas
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Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 01-26-06 18:11pm
~*~jillian~*~
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
im not sure if I read right but ..The
women didnt consent ..And the doctor did
the procedure anyways..? Um has this
ever happened ..And I think if I were the
women I would sue ..Because doctors arent
allowed to do procedures or even touch a
patient without consent..So I dont think
anyone would ever have to make this
decision...Because I doubt any doctor
would just up do that to someone that
doesnt even want it..Seems kind of
pointless to
me..
it's never happened because artificial
wombs don't exist. So you would sue...
But would you want the baby to live? It's
not inside the woman's body remember, and
she never wanted it.
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 01-27-06 22:10pm
eiri
wrote:
~*~jillian~*~
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
im not sure if I read right but ..The
women didnt consent ..And the doctor did
the procedure anyways..? Um has this
ever happened ..And I think if I were the
women I would sue ..Because doctors arent
allowed to do procedures or even touch a
patient without consent..So I dont think
anyone would ever have to make this
decision...Because I doubt any doctor
would just up do that to someone that
doesnt even want it..Seems kind of
pointless to
me..
it's never happened because artificial
wombs don't exist. So you would sue...
But would you want the baby to live?
It's not inside the woman's body remember,
and she never wanted
it.
well I was stupid for asking if it ever
happened...I would answer your
question..But really and truely that would
be a waste of time considering ..That this
would never happen in the first place...In
todays world doctors wouldnt do that to a
patient unless they were literally messed
up in the head..As for it happening in the
future I very seriously doubt that too..I
mean if I were a doctor...And went to
school for the amount of time that they
have to I dont think I would be implanting
wombs without consent..More than likely if
they were to do that they would lose their
job..So why would someone throw their
life/job away for someone they probably
dont even know or care about ..
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Izzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 01-27-06 22:26pm
As with abortion, what if its legal in the
future.... Re-read... The post!
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: 01-27-06 22:37pm
izzy
wrote:
as with abortion, what if
its legal in the future.... Re-read...
The post!
okay!Dont bite my f-in head off
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: 01-27-06 22:39pm
izzy
wrote:
as with abortion, what if
its legal in the future.... Re-read...
The post!
and I dont think it should be legal..I
dont think abortion is right..But for
certain reasons and I think I have stated
those plenty of times..
And anyways my post wasnt to you it was to
eiri...
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Izzy
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Oct 2004 Posts: 883 Location: Earth
Posted: 01-28-06 06:47am
Why do you get to decide the reasons?
Why do you presume to be the authority
over the life of another, why do you
presume that becuase a child will be born
deformed, he should be decapitated or if a
rapist rapes a woman, her child should be
killed?
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: 01-28-06 17:31pm
izzy
wrote:
why do you get to decide the
reasons?
Why do you presume to be the authority
over the life of another, why do you
presume that becuase a child will be born
deformed, he should be decapitated or if a
rapist rapes a woman, her child should be
killed?
what the hell are you talking about...If
you would go and read my post in the
pro-life forum..I have a thread in which I
asked if someone were pregnant with a down
syndrome baby what would they do...Well me
I would have the baby...Because I see my
cousin who has three children that
way..And they are wonderful children and
so loving..And I couldnt live with myself
if I were to take a childs life that
really deserves a chance...And for
thinking abortion is right when rape
happens...Yes I think the women should
have the choice if she wants abortion or
not..Because for one she got raped ...She
didnt want the baby or the sex...And if a
women thinks she can handle having a baby
that has been produced through rape then
thats her decision ..As for a women that
thinks she will not love the child or
might even beat it because it was produced
through rape...Then I think abortion is
right for her...
Maybe you should re read post...And get
off my ass about it
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: 01-28-06 17:35pm
izzy
wrote:
why do you get to decide the
reasons?
Why do you presume to be the authority
over the life of another, why do you
presume that becuase a child will be born
deformed, he should be decapitated or if a
rapist rapes a woman, her child should be
killed?
oh and I didnt think I ever said I decide
the reason..As for the reason why I
*think* its right..Are my opinion..So you
being the one who always say oh re read
blah blah ..Get over yourself and read the
damn screen a little better...Just because
I dont belive the same thing as you dont
make me a bad person ..And also doesnt
make your beliefs right..And I never said
mine were ..So stop posting as if you know
everything ..Because I seriously dont
think you do..
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Debat0r
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Jan 2006 Posts: 3
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 02-06-06 00:49am
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
no one I think it was the mothers fault to
engage in sexual activity I think they
should have it and if they don't want it
put it up for adoption!
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sadness
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 30 Location: london uk
Posted: 02-06-06 06:02am
~*~jillian~*~
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
why do you get to decide the
reasons?
Why do you presume to be the authority
over the life of another, why do you
presume that becuase a child will be born
deformed, he should be decapitated or if a
rapist rapes a woman, her child should be
killed?
what the hell are you talking about...If
you would go and read my post in the
pro-life forum..I have a thread in which I
asked if someone were pregnant with a down
syndrome baby what would they do...Well me
I would have the baby...Because I see my
cousin who has three children that
way..And they are wonderful children and
so loving..And I couldnt live with myself
if I were to take a childs life that
really deserves a chance...And for
thinking abortion is right when rape
happens...Yes I think the women should
have the choice if she wants abortion or
not..Because for one she got raped ...She
didnt want the baby or the sex...And if a
women thinks she can handle having a baby
that has been produced through rape then
thats her decision ..As for a women that
thinks she will not love the child or
might even beat it because it was produced
through rape...Then I think abortion is
right for her...
Maybe you should re read post...And get
off my ass about
it
thank you ~*~jillian~*~ for what you said
about women who get raped.
I have been attack on another tread by
izzy that I am a bad mum because I did opt
for a termination after being raped.
You are a very open minded person and you
have made me see there are other people on
here that don't think women shouldn't have
an option to terminate when they had no
control over how she fell pregnant.
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Posted: 02-06-06 14:40pm
sadness
wrote:
~*~jillian~*~
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
why do you get to decide the
reasons?
Why do you presume to be the authority
over the life of another, why do you
presume that becuase a child will be born
deformed, he should be decapitated or if a
rapist rapes a woman, her child should be
killed?
what the hell are you talking about...If
you would go and read my post in the
pro-life forum..I have a thread in which I
asked if someone were pregnant with a down
syndrome baby what would they do...Well me
I would have the baby...Because I see my
cousin who has three children that
way..And they are wonderful children and
so loving..And I couldnt live with myself
if I were to take a childs life that
really deserves a chance...And for
thinking abortion is right when rape
happens...Yes I think the women should
have the choice if she wants abortion or
not..Because for one she got raped ...She
didnt want the baby or the sex...And if a
women thinks she can handle having a baby
that has been produced through rape then
thats her decision ..As for a women that
thinks she will not love the child or
might even beat it because it was produced
through rape...Then I think abortion is
right for her...
Maybe you should re read post...And get
off my ass about
it
thank you ~*~jillian~*~ for what you said
about women who get raped.
I have been attack on another tread by
izzy that I am a bad mum because I did opt
for a termination after being rape and you
have made me see there are other people on
here that don't think women shouldn't have
an option to terminate when they had no
control over how she fell
pregnant.
lol thanks...Yeah I am open minded ...I
hate when people bash people for stupid
crap like that ..And you arent a bad mom
for doing that it was your decision and
yours only...Dont feel bad for what other
people say ..They dont understand from you
point of view ..Mostly because they arent
in your shoes...
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-06-06 20:33pm
I really do not know what to say other
than I am pro choice. If I am raped and
get pregnant, oh for sure I would have an
abortion. And for you people who believe
it would be right to carry a baby for 9
months, something a sick man put in you,
and have the baby and give it up for
adoption, all I have to say is you are a
sick individual.
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 02-06-06 21:52pm
debat0r
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
no one I think it was the mothers fault to
engage in sexual activity I think they
should have it and if they don't want it
put it up for
adoption!
um, duh... Did you even bother to read
the op? Your response has nothing...
*nothing* to do with the topic.
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 02-06-06 22:13pm
lsipes
wrote:
debat0r
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
no one I think it was the mothers fault to
engage in sexual activity I think they
should have it and if they don't want it
put it up for
adoption!
um, duh... Did you even bother to read
the op? Your response has nothing...
*nothing* to do with the
topic.
u r right, I did not read all of your
discussion. Rather than hitting reply, I
should have posted new title, so I could
state my oponion. All apologies edit
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 02-06-06 23:55pm
curious_girl82
wrote:
lsipes
wrote:
debat0r
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
no one I think it was the mothers fault to
engage in sexual activity I think they
should have it and if they don't want it
put it up for
adoption!
um, duh... Did you even bother to read
the op? Your response has nothing...
*nothing* to do with the
topic.
u r right, I did not read all of your
discussion. Rather than hitting reply, I
should have posted new title, so I could
state my oponion. All apologies
numbnuts.
what the hell are you talking about? I
didn't quote you. Immature to call me
numbnut, eh?
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~*~Jillian~*~
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 1759 Location: Tennessee, USA
Re: Womans Rights 2 Posted: 02-11-06 17:58pm
lsipes
wrote:
curious_girl82
wrote:
lsipes
wrote:
debat0r
wrote:
izzy
wrote:
ok same situation as
pervious but instead of woman giving her
consent to the procedure, the doctor
unifies the sperm and egg, the resulting
so called "child" is an accidental
creation (unwanted) should the zygote,
embryo or fetus be aborted?
Who should have the right to
choose?
no one I think it was the mothers fault to
engage in sexual activity I think they
should have it and if they don't want it
put it up for
adoption!
um, duh... Did you even bother to
read the op? Your response has
nothing... *nothing* to do with the
topic.
u r right, I did not read all of your
discussion. Rather than hitting reply,
I should have posted new title, so I could
state my oponion. All apologies
numbnuts.
what the hell are you talking about? I
didn't quote you. Immature to call me
numbnut, eh?
dont worry about curiousgirl..She is very
immature...She is pro-choice yet her edit
goes into the pro-life forum ...And
edit....So dont worry about her name
calling ..Dumb children these days :wink:
