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Posted: 02-11-06 20:26pm

My dad I never met ... I live in a small town .. Should say lived ... My mom just commited suicide about 6 months ago ... I lived with my neighbor for a while .. But he has kids .. And is divorced and their mom is a psycho .. So I moved in with this guy ... We started sleeping together and now I am pregnant ... He wants me to have an abortion or move out .... I have no where to go ... What do I do ?

My dad I never met ... I live in a small town .. Should say lived ... My mom just commited suicide about 6 months ago ... I lived with my neighbor for a while .. But he has kids .. And is divorced and their mom is a psycho .. So I moved in with this guy ... We started sleeping together and now I am pregnant ... He wants me to have an abortion or move out .... I have no where to go ... What do I do ?

The last thing I want to hear is some cristian telling me not to kill my baby ... Its ok for them theve got houses and places to live .. Not they would open their doors to me .. Hipocrites ..I seriously want to die ... I see no way out ...

Wish some one would help me ..... I cant goto foster care and have the baby coz then I will not b able to finish school
so if I decide to kill myself ... What happens to me .. Waht happens to my unborn child ... And what happens to all you selfish hipocrite mother!Edit who wont lend a christian hand .. ????
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Posted: 02-11-06 22:34pm

Okay first off ..You need to calm down and not be thinking about suicide I know that life might seem hard sometimes..But your not the only one ...When I was 17 my parents both got killed in a wreck ...And the night they were buried I found out I was pregnant ..Scared and shocked ..I still never thought of abortion..Because that baby deserved a life just like I did...My point is I know things get rough sometimes but we just have to think positive and try to keep our heads up and be strong..I know that right now you are at your weakest and things seem very messed up ..Which they are but I promise you things will only get better...Just give them time...Maybe you should talk with a doctor and they can get you headed in the right direction with things...Or if maybe you just need someone to talk to ..Im here to listen and give you the best advice and help that you need with your problem...
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Posted: 02-12-06 18:36pm

It seems like you absolutely hate christians, and I know this would be hard, but have you thought of going to a church or speaking with a pastor to see if someone in the congregation would take you in? I know there are a lot of hypocritical people out there, but there are some people who have a heart and would be willing to help you. May I ask where you're from?
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Re: What Happens to My Soul ....
Posted: 02-17-06 18:49pm

i wanna die wrote:
my dad I never met ... I live in a small town .. Should say lived ... My mom just commited suicide about 6 months ago ... I lived with my neighbor for a while .. But he has kids .. And is divorced and their mom is a psycho .. So I moved in with this guy ... We started sleeping together and now I am pregnant ... He wants me to have an abortion or move out .... I have no where to go ... What do I do ?


My dad I never met ... I live in a small town .. Should say lived ... My mom just commited suicide about 6 months ago ... I lived with my neighbor for a while .. But he has kids .. And is divorced and their mom is a psycho .. So I moved in with this guy ... We started sleeping together and now I am pregnant ... He wants me to have an abortion or move out .... I have no where to go ... What do I do ?


The last thing I want to hear is some cristian telling me not to kill my baby ... Its ok for them theve got houses and places to live .. Not they would open their doors to me .. Hipocrites ..I seriously want to die ... I see no way out ...


Wish some one would help me ..... I cant goto foster care and have the baby coz then I will not b able to finish school
so if I decide to kill myself ... What happens to me .. Waht happens to my unborn child ... And what happens to all you selfish hipocrite mother!Edit who wont lend a christian hand .. ????



suicide will mean an instant one way ticket to hell.

Killing your child is not an option do not even contemplate it, look to the future with hope, women are suppose to be independent these days, so i'm sure you will cope.

If you imagine and work to a positive future it will happen, if you think negatively, negativity will follow you.

Think like this: you have a challenge; the challenge is to go forward with hope and happiness, be happy that you are pregnant and understand that you have company, you will never regret giving birth, no one ever regrets giving birth, people only regret abortions, and abortions cannot be undone.

So:

be happy, right now I command you to be happy.

Talk to your child in the womb.

Make plans to succeed and don't stop until you become successful.

Everyone has to overcome challenges, do not turn away from your challenges, confront them and think positively always.

Remember, many people have been in your situation and have much harder circumstances.

So, good luck and god bless.
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Posted: 02-17-06 22:17pm

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suicide will mean an instant one way ticket to hell.


and you call yourself a christian, eh? No wonder I abandoned religion...


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killing your child is not an option do not even contemplate it,


way to give unbiased advise. Sorry to inform you that it i.S. An option! Kudos to you.

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you will never regret giving birth, no one ever regrets giving birth, people only regret abortions, and abortions cannot be undone.


that is so far from the truth and so unfounded. I know of many people that regret givin birth. Yes, some of them keep on keepin' on, but the others are the ones your hear about throwing their newborns into dumpsters.

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be happy, right now I command you to be happy.


yes, sir... Almighty one.

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everyone has to overcome challenges, do not turn away from your challenges, confront them and think positively always.


this is the only thing i've ever agreed with as far as what you've posted. Unfortunately for you, different people "confront" their challenges in different ways.
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Posted: 02-17-06 22:44pm

1st place I am deeply sorry for the loss of your mom! #2 never let a guy tell you what to do with your body and life. Their is help out their for females in your situation whether you chose to adopt your unborn baby out, keep the baby or abort it is your choice and yours alone.
You do not want to die, you just need a little help, you are too young. Check out social services, mental health(please do not take me wrong, I am not trying to tell you that you are crazy, we all need a little help sometime in our lives) they will lead you in the right direction. Help is there. You do not have to be religious. Their are a lot of females in your situation, you are not alone!
The bestto you!
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-17-06 23:47pm

lsipes wrote:

and you call yourself a christian, eh? No wonder I abandoned religion...


no, I didn’t call myself anything.

lsipes wrote:


way to give unbiased advise. Sorry to inform you that it i.S. An option! Kudos to you.


only as biased as your own advice.

lsipes wrote:


that is so far from the truth and so unfounded. I know of many people that regret givin birth. Yes, some of them keep on keepin' on, but the others are the ones your hear about throwing their newborns into dumpsters.


show me a single testimony of a person who has regretted giving birth and I will show you ten testimonies of those that regret their abortion.

lsipes wrote:


yes, sir... Almighty one.


yes sir will suffice.

lsipes wrote:
this is the only thing i've ever agreed with as far as what you've posted. Unfortunately for you, different people "confront" their challenges in different ways.


not true! Hitler dealt with his challenges the same way you deal with yours.
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-17-06 23:50pm

sandyallen wrote:
never let a guy tell you what to do with your body and life.

too late, i've told her.

Now i'm telling you: stop being sexist.
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lsipes

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Posted: 02-18-06 00:06am

I'm sorry to inform you that my advise is far from biased. I offer neutral advise and share experiences. That's about it. I don't attempt to sway anyone in their decisions, nor do I tell them that they're going to hell or anything of the sort if they choose one way or the other. I try to help them and support them. You should take a look at any and all of my past posts. It won't take very long. I haven't been here that long. You will see that what you said is insanely judgemental and not at all true.
Your advice, however, has proven to be extremely biased and far too influenced by your own personal beliefs. Just because you believe one way, doesn't mean everyone does. And it's impossible to offer effective solutions or help to someone when you're trying to beat something into their head that they obviously haven't welcomed.
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-18-06 00:46am

lsipes wrote:
i'm sorry to inform you that my advise is far from biased.


then why do you assume your advice is better then mine?

lsipes wrote:
I offer neutral advise and share experiences.


well, I offer positive advice.

lsipes wrote:
that's about it. I don't attempt to sway anyone in their decisions,


you are attempting to sway mine.

lsipes wrote:
nor do I tell them that they're going to hell or anything of the sort if they choose one way or the other. I try to help them and support them.


good for you, but I choose to tell people that they will go to hell if they choose one way or another.

I may just have saved her from an eternity in hell, and that is quite an achievement.

lsipes wrote:
you should take a look at any and all of my past posts. It won't take very long. I haven't been here that long. You will see that what you said is insanely judgemental and not at all true.


well, you have just judged me, so you are a hypocrite.

lsipes wrote:
your advice, however, has proven to be extremely biased and far too influenced by your own personal beliefs.


how else am I supposed to offer advice? I sure as hell can’t base it on your beliefs can i?

lsipes wrote:
just because you believe one way, doesn't mean everyone does.


i have never said they do.

lsipes wrote:
and it's impossible to offer effective solutions or help to someone when you're trying to beat something into their head


where have I beaten anyone around the head? This is an internet forum, what you accuse me of is impossible to do.

lsipes wrote:
they obviously haven't welcomed


where does it say that my advice is not welcome, and how would I know this unless first giving the advice?
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Posted: 02-18-06 00:51am

You obviously haven't really thought about anything i've said. Only come up with snotty retorts that have absolutely no proactive value. Maybe when I have more energy i'll reply in depth.
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Posted: 02-18-06 01:10am

All I have to say is this guy is really starting to piss me off with his god mumbo jumbo!!! Does he realize he is very much a hateful person to be telling people they are going to his so called "hell"... Damn christians(or whatever)he is just like most of em, a hypocrite!!, this is why I am grateful I can think for myself....Jimmy, you really have got some learning to do my friend...You are so beyond brainwashed it almost hurts...And holy hell if it is not irratating!!!!
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lsipes

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Posted: 02-18-06 01:11am

Forget it. I've got laundry in the wash. I'll attempt to form my thoughts into words this late at night. You'll have to let me know how successful I am.

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then why do you assume your advice is better then mine?


where have I insinuated that my advice is "better"? I only said that I try to be as unbiased as possible without involving my own *personal* beliefs because I know that what I feel is best for me, is not what's best for all.

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well, I offer positive advice.


i don't feel that your advice is positive. Of course, that's just my opinion. Damning other people to hell when that isn't your job is not positive. Neither are scare tactics in any form.

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you are attempting to sway mine.


how have i, in any way attempted to sway your opinion? If you can constructive tell me how this is so, I may own up to it. I personally don't see it.

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good for you, but I choose to tell people that they will go to hell if they choose one way or another.

I may just have saved her from an eternity in hell, and that is quite an achievement.


you saying that she will go to hell if she commits suicide obviously leads one to believe that you believe in the one "almighty god". So I feel this is completely relevant:
1corinthians 4:5
"therefore do not go on passing judgment before "the time, but wait until the lord comes who wil both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men's hearts; and then each man's praise will come to him from god"...
You have no right to tell someone whether or not they will go to hell. That is up to y-o-u-r .God

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well, you have just judged me, so you are a hypocrite.


i don't feel that i've necessarily judged you. I think I made an observation. If that makes me a hypocrite, then so be it.

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how else am I supposed to offer advice? I sure as hell can’t base it on your beliefs can i?


there is always the option of offering advice that has nothing to do with *anyone's* beliefs, and just be supportive of someone who's obviously in a very bad place and in need of comfort.

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where does it say that my advice is not welcome, and how would I know this unless first giving the advice?


i didn't really say that your advice wasn't welcomed. I said that you beating your beliefs into her head (it was a figure of speech, btw) wasn't welcomed. The original poster said, and I quote, "the last thing I want is a christian telling me not to kill my baby". And that's exactly what you did. Which you have every right to do since this is a public forum and everything goes. But you could offer your opinion in a more respectful manner.
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Posted: 02-18-06 01:15am

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you obviously don't have any real beliefs of your own, so you might as well use isipes.



lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm seriously sitting here laughing my edit off!! I almost shot coffee out my nose!! I think you and I could be very good friends. Lol
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Posted: 02-18-06 01:16am

curious_girl82 wrote:
all I have to say is this guy is really starting to piss me off with his god mumbo jumbo!!! Does he realize he is very much a hateful person to be telling people they are going to his so called "hell"... Damn christians(or whatever)he is just like most of em, a hypocrite!!, this is why I am grateful I can think for myself....Jimmy, you really have got some learning to do my friend...You are so beyond brainwashed it almost hurts...And holy hell if it is not irratating!!!!


he is the product of organized religion, love. =)
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-18-06 01:27am

lsipes wrote:
you obviously haven't really thought about anything i've said. Only come up with snotty retorts that have absolutely no proactive value. Maybe when I have more energy i'll reply in depth.


no, just reply when you have something worth saying.

I don't expect a reply for a long-time.
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-18-06 01:28am

lsipes wrote:


he is the product of organized religion, love. =)


millions of homicidal mums is the result of a lack of organised religion.
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Posted: 02-18-06 01:32am

lsipes wrote:
curious_girl82 wrote:
all I have to say is this guy is really starting to piss me off with his god mumbo jumbo!!! Does he realize he is very much a hateful person to be telling people they are going to his so called "hell"... Damn christians(or whatever)he is just like most of em, a hypocrite!!, this is why I am grateful I can think for myself....Jimmy, you really have got some learning to do my friend...You are so beyond brainwashed it almost hurts...And holy hell if it is not irratating!!!!


he is the product of organized religion, love. =)

he is, and it is very unfortunate....
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lsipes

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Posted: 02-18-06 01:32am

jimmyjackers wrote:
lsipes wrote:
you obviously haven't really thought about anything i've said. Only come up with snotty retorts that have absolutely no proactive value. Maybe when I have more energy i'll reply in depth.


no, just reply when you have something worth saying.


I don't expect a reply for a long-time.


hahahahahahhahaahaaaaa...................








Hahahahahhahahhahahahhaaa!!!!!!!!!! Ok. You got me. I have nothing valuable to say. You're right. You are the messiah. (in your own world)
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jimmyjackers

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Posted: 02-18-06 01:36am

lsipes wrote:
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you obviously don't have any real beliefs of your own, so you might as well use isipes.



lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm seriously sitting here laughing my a.S.S off!! I almost shot coffee out my nose!! I think you and I could be very good friends. Lol


yes, laugh because abortion is funny isn't it?


So you have sex for fun.


You have abortions for convenience.


Then go to abortion forums to laugh at the whole situation.


You guys need help.
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