the trouble is when people
talk about a "rapist" and getting pregnant
from rape, they have in mind a stranger in
an alley, or a woman being attacked. But
a lot of women who are raped, it's by men
they are in a relationship with, or even
their husbands. That's what happened to
a friend of mine when she was a teenager.
They started having sex, doing either
pull-out or using condoms, and one day he
just said he wanted to do it without one,
and not pull-out, and he just held her
down. She got pregnant. That was rape,
even if she didn't go to the police or
whatever, but after that she had an
abortion and never spoke to him
again.
...The trouble is a foetus is a human and
a human is a person, and abortion kills a
human, so abortion is homicide.
Why do you punish your son or daughter
because your husband or boyfriend raped
you?
If the situation you speak of really
happens, then you ought not to take sex so
cavalier, just think about it next time
you have sex, you are messing with
someone’s life.
To kill someone in order that you can
enjoy sex is also known as sadism.
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-17-06 18:43pm
jimmyjackers
wrote:
janetbee
wrote:
the trouble is when people
talk about a "rapist" and getting pregnant
from rape, they have in mind a stranger in
an alley, or a woman being attacked.
But a lot of women who are raped, it's by
men they are in a relationship with, or
even their husbands. That's what
happened to a friend of mine when she was
a teenager. They started having sex,
doing either pull-out or using condoms,
and one day he just said he wanted to do
it without one, and not pull-out, and he
just held her down. She got pregnant.
That was rape, even if she didn't go to
the police or whatever, but after that she
had an abortion and never spoke to him
again.
...The trouble is a foetus is a human and
a human is a person, and abortion kills a
human, so abortion is homicide.
Why do you punish your son or daughter
because your husband or boyfriend raped
you?
If the situation you speak of really
happens, then you ought not to take sex so
cavalier, just think about it next time
you have sex, you are messing with
someone’s life.
To kill someone in order that you can
enjoy sex is also known as
sadism.
you have gotta be
incredibly kidding me!? Maybe I should
just stay outta the abortion debate
room....I am somewhat disgusted at what
some of you type in here, whether it be an
opinion or whatever... Some of the stuff
I read makes me so,ahhh!!! Lol, makes me
feel like I am having an arguement with my
stubborn boyfriend...(although his views
on abortion are the same as mine) well, to
each their own...
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-17-06 18:59pm
curious_girl82
wrote:
you have gotta be incredibly
kidding me!? Maybe I should just stay
outta the abortion debate room....I am
somewhat disgusted at what some of you
type in here, whether it be an opinion or
whatever... Some of the stuff I read
makes me so,ahhh!!! Lol, makes me feel
like I am having an arguement with my
stubborn boyfriend...(although his views
on abortion are the same as mine) well, to
each their
own...
i'm not joking, anyone who jokes or laughs
at abortion, whether they agree or not, is
acting seriously dishonourably.
When I hear that mothers kill their
children it disgusts me too, however, a
sincere act of contrition to jesus through
a catholic priest will see that you are
forgiven.
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-17-06 19:09pm
jimmyjackers
wrote:
curious_girl82
wrote:
you have gotta be incredibly
kidding me!? Maybe I should just
stay outta the abortion debate room....I
am somewhat disgusted at what some of you
type in here, whether it be an opinion or
whatever... Some of the stuff I read
makes me so,ahhh!!! Lol, makes me
feel like I am having an arguement with my
stubborn boyfriend...(although his views
on abortion are the same as mine) well, to
each their
own...
i'm not joking, anyone who jokes or laughs
at abortion, whether they agree or not, is
acting seriously dishonourably.
When I hear that mothers kill their
children it disgusts me too, however, a
sincere act of contrition to jesus through
a catholic priest will see that you are
forgiven.
wait a minute...If I
want a cleansing for my soul, a priest of
all people is .T.H.E. L.A.S.T person I
would go to...No disrespect, but I am not
into any of that crap...And from what I
understand, alot of priests have no room
to speak about morals and "gods word"
..(just read the newspaper) may piss off
alot of people by saying that, but dont
deny that which is true..And no I am not
saying all preists, there are some good
people out there, but come on.....Again, I
apologize 4 offending some people, just
had 2 say it...Take care.. :)
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-17-06 19:27pm
And jimmyjackers I am not bashing you at
all..I am sure you are a good person..I am
just very against when people start
preaching about what is wrong and what is
right n use religion...Alot of religions
contain hypocrites within.. I for one use
my own mind... I do not think religious
people are in any means bad,whatever
religion they are...It is just not for
me..And when it comes 2 abortion n
religion, leave what your priest or pastor
tell you behind and truelly think for
yourself... ( I just know I am going to
get a buttload of bad replies on this one)
n e who, take care :)
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-17-06 19:48pm
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
a sincere act of contrition
to jesus through a catholic priest will
see that you are
forgiven.
sorry, edit... Do I go before or after
editlittle
boys?
wow!!! That is what I
was trying to get at!! Lol, though I was
not so blunt... :)
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Posted: 02-17-06 20:02pm
Curiousgirl, can you please do me a favor?
Please please please?
S-t-o-p apologizing for your opinion!!!!
Value it. And voice it loudly. That's
what this forum is for. You need not
tiptoe around worrying that you're going
to piss someone off. In a debate forum,
there *will* be people that get pissed no
matter what. So stop being sorry and
apologetic for what you believe. You
don't seeany of them being apologetic for
calling pro-choicers "baby k.Illers"
whether they've had an abortion or not, do
you? Never be sorry for what you
believe!! =)
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-17-06 20:07pm
lsipes
wrote:
curiousgirl, can you please
do me a favor? Please please please?
S-t-o-p apologizing for your opinion!!!!
Value it. And voice it loudly.
That's what this forum is for. You need
not tiptoe around worrying that you're
going to piss someone off. In a debate
forum, there *will* be people that get
pissed no matter what. So stop being
sorry and apologetic for what you believe.
You don't seeany of them being
apologetic for calling pro-choicers "baby
k.Illers" whether they've had an abortion
or not, do you? Never be sorry for what
you believe!!
=)
:) even when I am talking
with people I tend to apologize
alot...Lol, it angers people off when I
constantly am saying sorry :) ok, u r
right, my opinion is my damn opinion and I
will value it.. :) take care :)
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-17-06 23:14pm
curious_girl82
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
curious_girl82
wrote:
you have gotta be incredibly
kidding me!? Maybe I should just
stay outta the abortion debate room....I
am somewhat disgusted at what some of you
type in here, whether it be an opinion or
whatever... Some of the stuff I
read makes me so,ahhh!!! Lol, makes
me feel like I am having an arguement with
my stubborn boyfriend...(although his
views on abortion are the same as mine)
well, to each their
own...
i'm not joking, anyone who jokes or laughs
at abortion, whether they agree or not, is
acting seriously dishonourably.
When I hear that mothers kill their
children it disgusts me too, however, a
sincere act of contrition to jesus through
a catholic priest will see that you are
forgiven.
wait a minute...If I
want a cleansing for my soul, a priest of
all people is .T.H.E. L.A.S.T person I
would go to...No disrespect, but I am not
into any of that crap...And from what I
understand, alot of priests have no room
to speak about morals and "gods word"
..(just read the newspaper) may piss off
alot of people by saying that, but dont
deny that which is true..And no I am not
saying all preists, there are some good
people out there, but come on.....Again, I
apologize 4 offending some people, just
had 2 say it...Take care..
:)
if you read the papers you will discover
news of many dishonourable people of all
kinds, and the “lot” you speak of, is
in fact a minority. We hear far more
stories about teachers, yet parents send
their children to them in the
millions!!!
Besides, abortion is child abuse in its
most destructive form, and millions and
millions of women are guilty of that,
unlike the hand full of priest you speak
of.
Anyway,
god bless.
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-17-06 23:21pm
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
a sincere act of contrition
to jesus through a catholic priest will
see that you are
forgiven.
sorry,edit... Do I go before or after
editlittle
boys?
if you have had an abortion, I would seek
forgiveness immediately.
A priest that has abused a person is still
head and shoulders above someone who has
killed a person.
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-17-06 23:24pm
curious_girl82
wrote:
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
a sincere act of contrition
to jesus through a catholic priest will
see that you are
forgiven.
sorry, edit... Do I go before or
after editlittle
boys?
wow!!! That is what I
was trying to get at!! Lol, though I
was not so blunt...
:)
abortion is the gravest of all child
abuse.
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-18-06 00:54am
jimmyjackers
wrote:
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
a sincere act of contrition
to jesus through a catholic priest will
see that you are
forgiven.
sorry, edit... Do I go before or
after edit
boys?
if you have had an abortion, I would seek
forgiveness immediately.
A priest that has abused a person is still
head and shoulders above someone who has
killed a
person.
you are a edit, aren't you?? The person
who abused another human has killed their
soul in an even more terrible way!! I
say those are the ones who should seek any
kind of forgiveness...Not a woman who has
had 2 make possibly the hardest decision
in her life...
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 00:55am
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
if you have had an abortion,
I would seek forgiveness
immediately.
sorry, edit... I don't believe in your
fairy tale sky bully.
jimmyjackers
wrote:
a priest that has abused a
person is still head and shoulders above
someone who has killed a
person.
in your opinion.
Edit like yourself would think edit a
child is ok.
there is no greater crime then homicide,
however, the homicide of your own child is
greater still
abuse in any form is unacceptable, that
goes for your insults too.
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 01:11am
curious_girl82
wrote:
you are a edit, aren't you??
incorrect.
curious_girl82
wrote:
the person who abused
another human has killed their soul in an
even more terrible way!!
not true, everyone receives abuse to some
degree, but abortion is as bad as abuse
gets because there isn’t a more
despicable act then for a mother to seek
satisfaction through sex and then to
destroy her son or daughter just because
she cannot be bothered with it. At least
a paedophile allows the abused to live,
whereas a mother who aborts gets the
satisfaction and then kills the little
feller.
curious_girl82
wrote:
i say those are the ones who
should seek any kind of forgiveness...Not
a woman who has had 2 make possibly the
hardest decision in her life...
if it is the hardest decision you ever
make, then you should not be so quick to
have sex .
It is a hardest decision to make, but the
choice to have sex is easy isn’t it?
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 01:12am
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
jimmyjackers
wrote:
abortion is the gravest of
all child
abuse.
no, the gravest of all child abuse would
be you having
children.
incorrect!
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curious_girl82
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 89 Location: new mexico
Posted: 02-18-06 01:15am
jimmyjackers
wrote:
curious_girl82
wrote:
you are a edit, aren't
you??
incorrect.
curious_girl82
wrote:
the person who abused
another human has killed their soul in an
even more terrible way!!
not true, everyone receives abuse to some
degree, but abortion is as bad as abuse
gets because there isn’t a more
despicable act then for a mother to seek
satisfaction through sex and then to
destroy her son or daughter just because
she cannot be bothered with it. At
least a paedophile allows the abused to
live, whereas a mother who aborts gets the
satisfaction and then kills the little
feller.
curious_girl82
wrote:
i say those are the ones who
should seek any kind of forgiveness...Not
a woman who has had 2 make possibly the
hardest decision in her life...
if it is the hardest decision you ever
make, then you should not be so quick to
have sex .
It is a hardest decision to make, but the
choice to have sex is easy isn’t
it?
look you little edit!
Why dont you go tell that to some poor
little 13 year old girl who has been
raped...Raped by her uncle..??...Or her
father perhaps...?? You edit man!!
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 01:16am
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
wrong again... Christ on the cross, I
know your hate filled religion better than
you. All sins are equal except one...
Not accepting god as your
bully.
incorrect!
bahahahahahaha123
wrote:
that goes for your threats to hell,
edit.
i don’t threaten hell, I warn you of it.
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 01:20am
curious_girl82
wrote:
look you edit
\
!! Why dont you go tell that to some
poor little 13 year old girl who has been
raped...Raped by her uncle..??...Or her
father perhaps...?? You bug
man!!
because millions upon millions of infants
are killed due to abortion, to justify all
these deaths because of one or two, is an
insane justification.
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lsipes
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Jan 2006 Posts: 325
Posted: 02-18-06 01:24am
Quote:
not true,
everyone receives abuse to some degree,
but abortion is as bad as abuse gets
because there isn’t a more despicable
act then for a mother to seek satisfaction
through sex and then to destroy her son or
daughter just because she cannot be
bothered with it. At least a paedophile
allows the abused to live, whereas a
mother who aborts gets the satisfaction
and then kills the little feller.
ok, so it's just the *mother* that gets
the pleasure out of the sex, huh? Wow,
last I knew, there were two people having
sex? The man gets (most likely more)
pleasure from it too. So it's the woman
that has to suffer and be pregnant and
raise the child huh? You really are a
piece of work, you know that?
I have a hard time believing someone can
actually be as ignorant as you are. I'm
beginning to think you're just a edit with
nothing better to do. While it's fun,
it's also annoying.
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jimmyjackers
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 13 Jan 2006 Posts: 270
Posted: 02-18-06 01:54am
lsipes
wrote:
ok, so it's just the *mother* that gets
the pleasure out of the sex, huh?
Wow, last I knew, there were two people
having sex? The man gets (most likely
more) pleasure from it too. So it's
the woman that has to suffer and be
pregnant and raise the child huh? You
really are a piece of work, you know
that?
I have a hard time believing someone can
actually be as ignorant as you are.
I'm beginning to think you're just a
editwith nothing better to do. While
it's fun, it's also
annoying.
oh so now all of a sudden you want a man
to have a say in abortion decisions?
