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isayso

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Very Weird Sleep Disorder
Posted: 02-14-06 08:00am

If anyone has any idea what this is, please reply to this post!

I have had this totally insane sleep problem for about 4 years now. It seems a bit like sleep paralysis but it's much different.

Ok so I start dreaming the second I fall asleep, maybe even before i'm fully asleep. Suddenly it takes a twist to the dark side. Either that or there's no dream at all (usually the case). So I get an overwhelming feeling of fear and panic, and don't know where it comes from. Eventually I realize i'm asleep (and perhaps dreaming) so I try real hard to wake myself up but can't move. At this point I become aware of both my physical body and my dream self. I usually have some very realistic hallucinations, either bright flashes or shadowy figures or other scary stuff, often I just get this "6th sense" feeling like something evil is there but I don't know what (like my limbic system just totally lost it) and more panic because I can't move and I get a lot of irrational thoughts even though I know i'm sleeping. A few times I felt like something was violently shaking me (but I never figured out if I was really shaking) and just at different times different crazy stuff happens.

So I finally manage to snap myself out of it, and when I do there is this intense oscillation in my head (kind of like spinning or pulsating, real weird) and ringing in my ears, pulsing at about 3-4hz, and over the next few minutes it slows down to about .1 hz while slowly fading away. And sometimes the instant I come out of my sleep state i'll have a final, short hallucination (in some of cases, a red light coming from around a corner that quickly fades out) leaving me wondering what the hell just happened and if I really just saw that.

Often i'll remain be in a really neurotic, paranoid state for the next 15 minutes if I don't go back to sleep. Occasionally after this happens, any noises I hear will send a pulse of adrenaline through my body, but I think that's just a sort of a temporary shell-shock.

A final note, this has happened a total of about 75 times over the last 4 years, but usually happens in clusters (like 10-15 in a month, then none for a few months). Weird.

Ps I don't have bipolar or anything like that, though I am a bit a.D.D.
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ronb

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Similar Experiences
Posted: 02-14-06 22:18pm

Hi I also have similar types of weird things happening when I am usually just starting to fall asleep. I thought maybe I was having some type of seizure activity and I started searching around the net looking for info. I came about here after seeing a posting it is from 1-2 years ago, and is very similar to your experiences. Try this link to see if you can view the entire postings:
http://72.14.207.104/sear ch?Q=cache:ahatx5tk-2mj:ehealthforum.Com/h ealth/topic15711.Html+%22just+falling+asle ep%22+seizure&hl=en&gl=us&ct=c lnk&cd=11

i get this every so often, sometimes it will run for a few days straight, then wont happen for a month. I did have a sleep study but nothing happened on that night. Here is what happens to me. I will be just falling asleep and I will get a very strange feeling over my entire body, like a numbness. I feel a pulsating in my head and very loud ringing in my ears. It intensifies until I am fully awakened. Then as I try to get back to sleep it keeps happening a few more times, some more intense, others less intense. I do not sleep with anyone who can tell me what is happening. I also get another type of episode from time to time. As I am just falling asleep I get violently awoken where I jump up. It is as if I was hit in the face with a baseball bat, or fell off a building and hit the ground. Its like boom, and I jump awake. Really scary. I am going to start documenting when I have these episodes to see if there is any similarities in my activities, what I ate etc.. Had one last night, but it's been a few weeks since the last episodes. Sometimes too as I lay down to sleep it feels like someone is shaking the bed.
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isayso

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Some Similarities
Posted: 02-14-06 23:49pm

Yeah that is the most similar description i've seen so far as to what happens to me. I've read about sleep paralysis before and that just seems like one of the symptoms I (and others) experience. I could deal with just the paralysis it's all the other crap that makes it unbearable. One thing I have noticed is that a few people on this forum have similar reports but no one has any clue what it is.

Anyway, a couple of pointers that might help:
1) when it happens, don't try to go back to sleep until your head clears, or you'll probably go back into it. I usually smoke a cigarette and that seems to help my head clear.
2) this usually happens when I try to sleep on my back. It almost never happens in other positions, so I try to avoid sleeping on back.
3) since i'm "aware" during these episodes, i'm spending most of the time trying to wake myself up so I can come out of it. Once, I thought, maybe i'll just try to ride it through, or to beat it, or whatever, instead of trying to wake up. Not a good idea. It just kept getting worse. After a good 60 seconds it felt like I was convulsing violently, although I don't know if I really was or not. Also this has never happened when I was sleeping next to anyone, even in the same room, it is a sneaky culprit.

I emailed a copy of the previous posting to this guy:
http://sleepdisor ders.About.Com/b/a/228638.Htm (if you want to look at it you have to make the h in htm lowercase or it won't work, the forum program capitalizes it cause it's stupid)
idonno if that will ever amount to anything though...
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ronb

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Another Thing
Posted: 02-16-06 16:59pm

Hi, I also get this allot. In the morning I wake up, allways hours before i'm supposed to. If I want to get up at 6:30, I start waking up at 4 am. After the first awake at 4 I never really seem to fall back asleep. It is like I am in a half awake half sleep mode. During this I experience very vivid dreams. I like when its time to get up because I hate laying there in that half sleep mode. But the thing is very very vivid real like dreams.
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isayso

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Yeah
Posted: 02-20-06 23:52pm

Yeah sometimes I just lay there all night and can't sleep... Or just wake up at any random point in the night and then can't go back to sleep. I can deal with that, it's the stupid sleep attacks (as I have come to call them) that piss me off. It's funny, it never started till I was 19, except this one time when I was 16, my doctor prescribed me amitryptalin (i think I spelled that wrong) because I couldn't sleep well. This is the same stuff as elavil, which I think is an antidepressant (my doctor was an fool) the first time I took it, I slept great and then in the morning I woke up but my body was still asleep and I felt like I was suffocating and then freaked out, and eventually woke up. Well like an fool I took it agian the next night and, you guessed it, it happened again. So I didn't take any more of them. Sometimes I wonder if that stuff like messed something in my brain up, although that solution just doesn't seem to make any sense. I wanted to go to a sleep clinic for a while, but they "sleep attacks" are so unpredictable I never know when they will strike. I still haven't heard back from that guy, either (the one who was doing research on strange sleep problems or whatever)
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smellycat

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Re: Very Weird Sleep Disorder
Posted: 05-08-06 22:20pm

isayso wrote:
if anyone has any idea what this is, please reply to this post!

So I get an overwhelming feeling of fear and panic, and don't know where it comes from. Eventually I realize i'm asleep (and perhaps dreaming) so I try real hard to wake myself up but can't move. At this point I become aware of both my physical body and my dream self.

So I finally manage to snap myself out of it, and when I do there is this intense oscillation in my head (kind of like spinning or pulsating, real weird) and ringing in my ears, pulsing at about 3-4hz, and over the next few minutes it slows down to about .1 hz while slowly fading away.



i have had the exact same experiences. Strangely enough in that order too.
I go to bed and can't sleep, will toss and turn. Then i'm suddenly aware I can't move. I then realise I am dreaming, so try to call out to the sleeping me to wake up. I can almost float above the second me and then view her. It's almost like a case of watching myself, watching myself. The original me in bed, the me in the dream unable to move and the me observing this. When I try to shout out I can't. Then when the original me wakes up in bed there is this thing I can only describe as a ball of noise (memory perhaps?) that sort of buzzes in and out towards me, the closer it gets the louder it is. And whatever it is, it is truly terrifying and I want to get away.

isayso wrote:
it's funny, it never started till I was 19, except this one time when I was 16, my doctor prescribed me amitryptalin (i think I spelled that wrong) because I couldn't sleep well. This is the same stuff as elavil, which I think is an antidepressant (my doctor was an fool) the first time I took it, I slept great and then in the morning I woke up but my body was still asleep and I felt like I was suffocating and then freaked out, and eventually woke up.


interesting because I have been taking amitriptyline for several years.
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chuawa

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Posted: 05-10-06 03:14am

Yoz,

seems like a lot of people actually have this problem atleast once in their life. I have been having such episodes since i'm a kid.

For me, it more of a lifestyle issue. If during periods when I am spending too much energy staying up late and constant staring at computer screens playing my fav game, I will get such problems.

What are your causes?
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