Hi! I am new to this forum and was
wondering if anyone has had eye pain with
their tmj and tight jaw muscles? It seems
worse when I am eating or drinking. I am
also extremely light sensitive and have
also been diagnosed with myofascial pain
dysfunction- sound familiar to anyone?
:idea:
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jlsoroch
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Canada
Posted: 04-23-06 22:26pm
I have a lot of troubles with my eyes and
this is almost worse than the pain in my
jaw. My eye muscles seem to have seized
up and there is such bad pulling
behind/inside my eye and in my sinus area
whenever I blink or move my eye. It's all
day and it effects my vision i.E. Blurry,
splotchy, very sensitive to light, my eyes
seem to have dried up. I get nauseated
from the pulling and tension in my eyes,
is this similar to what you have? What
course of action are you taking for your
myofascial pain dysfunction? I am trying
ot find a dentist who will take my
problems seriously. The night guard I
wear is useless and I think only makes the
problem worse. I tried chiropractics and
it actually made my jaw a whole lot worse
and exasburated the eye strain.
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myohio
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Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: ohio
Hi! Posted: 04-24-06 07:04am
Hello, I feel so bad for you- this sounds
like a duplicate of what I had! The
person that diagnosed my myofascial pain
was an oral surgeon. My dentist saw that
I was a bruxer (teeth grinding) so he made
me a soft lower splint and it made things
10x worse! The only thing that has helped
me was throw away the splint, 2 weeks on
prednisone, strong anti-inflammatories for
another 2 weeks and a glorious
neuromuscular massage. My eyes lteraally
felt like they were being pushed out of my
sockets! I also had cracking and popping
in my sinuses, eyes, ears and muscles.
The thing that helped me the most of
anything was a prescription for flexeril
(muscle relaxer) and the massage. My eyes
immeditely felt better and things improved
from there. I would suggest starting some
stretching of your neck muscles afetr
applying heat form a heating pad or in the
shower, and check for hard, sore knots
(trigger points) these are what is
referring pain to your sinuses and eyes.
Right at the base of your skull are
muscles connected to your sinuses and
massaging those should help. Right now I
have minimal eye pain, no more dryness and
am considering wearing my contacts again
after 3 months w/out them! I thought for
sure I was going blind! My eye doc looked
at them twice before I had a diagnosis and
nothing was wrong with my eyes, so don't
worry, this is normal w/ severe
mysifascial pain and jaw problems.
Actually my jaw hurts worse now than it
did intitially, it was eyes that hurt the
most! I even went to a neurologist
thinking I had a brain tumor b/c one pupil
was larger than the other. He diagnosed
migraines w/ persistant aura b/c I see
this swirling thing when I am outside in
bright light and visual snow and after
images, lights etc... Nothing he gave me
helped though, just strong
anti-inflammatories and muscle relaxers.
I have also started an anti-inflammatory
diet, green tea and lots of veggies,
protien, fruit, and evening prim rose oil
supplement.
I hope this helps, I know my oral
surgeon had prescribed a hard upper splint
for me, but my insurance doesn't cover it
and i's 900$ so until I find a job I have
to deal with this. I had to qiut my
teaching job b/c of this but after the
massage I had my life improved 100% so
it's worth it. There are lots of things
they can try for tmj and myofascial pain
but nothing is a for sure thing. Mostly
trial and error so hang in there. I am
now having problems with my throat to top
it all off, but I think its connected. I
know my mysofacial symptoms have taken 2
months to resolve but I am functioning
normally now so try some of those things
and find a good tmj/myofascial pain doc.
Where do you live? I know a good one in
northeast ohio, so let me know and any
other questions.
Amanda
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jlsoroch
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Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Canada
Posted: 04-24-06 13:51pm
Hi amanda,
thanks so much for your reply. I am not
glad to hear that you suffer from the same
things, but after so many tests and seeing
so many Dr. And being told I was fine, I
was being to wonder what was wrong with
me. I just never imagined that tmj could
cause such a wide array of problems. So
it's the tight balls of pressure in your
neck that cause the pain and problems in
the eyes? I can feel them and they kill
and I try to massage them but just
touching it makes me feel sick. I have
been to 2 different chiropractors but they
have made it worse. I feel like
everything hurts and my dentist has never
heard of anything but pain in the jaw and
troubles opening your mouth. Did you get
the flexeril prescription from your oral
surgeon? I will definately try the
neuromuscular massage! I don't have
insurance coverage so I am not really open
to trying new mouth guards etc. Given my
past experiences.
I'm sorry to hear you had to quit your
job. I have a 20 month old daughter and
it's really hard to make it through the
day with my eyes. I mean it's hard to see
and blink and focus, things you take for
granted.
I live in toronto, canada and there don't
seem to be many specialists around
here.....Have you heard of any :) I am
basically done wasting my time with my
dentist; she doesn't seem to have the
least bit of compassion and tmj seems to
be out of her realm.
Take care,
janice
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myohio
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Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 30 Location: ohio
Posted: 04-24-06 14:57pm
Hi janice, i'm sorry your dentist hasn't
helped you! Do you have a regular doc?
They might be able to help you with some
prescriptions or if all esle fails go to
the e.R, I had to twice and they gave me
prescriptions. Mostly you just need to
try to relax those muscles, are you
married? Your husband or a friend could
massage your neck and shoulders for you.
A couple exercises might help too. First
close your mouth and put your tongue on
the very last tooth on the top and slowly
run your tongue across the top teeth with
your lips closed. Also massaging your
jaw joint helps break up inflammation.
Hope some of this helps!
Amanda
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jlsoroch
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Apr 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Canada
Posted: 04-24-06 20:20pm
Hi again,
thanks for the tips...I appreciate your
help!
Janice
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blondee123
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Joined: 16 May 2006 Posts: 2
Eyes & Tmj Posted: 05-16-06 15:20pm
Just found this forum & I have the
same eye pain & temple area headaches.
I have had tmj for about 8 years, the
first time it was all ear pain & it
took a year & a half for my family doc
& an ent doc to figure it out.
At that time I had an absessed tooth &
was grinding on it, once I got that
removed, my tmj was better, til lately, I
can now press on the gum where that tooth
was, with the top wisdom tooth.
Just had both top ones removed yesterday
so dont' know if this is going to help or
not.
The eye pain, plus the feeling that my
jaws are tight as can be, there are days I
just cannot even relax them as much as I
try and then I tense up everywhere on my
face & the eye pain & temple area
headaches are horrible.
My insurance won't pay a dime, so I am
trying home remedies, heat, relaxation
etc. As much as I can, to control this.
There are days it's unbearable though. I
was no pain meds & anti-inflams for
back pain a year ago & don't want to
ever be on all those meds again! Some of
them are horrible to get off of, plus non
steroidal anti-inflams can also cause eye
problems, so it's the double edged sword,
the meds can cause as many problems as the
problem itself.
Just wanted to let you all know that the
eye pain & headaches are truly a part
of tmj. I also worry that it is
something worse, but I think we all do
that when they pain is that bad.
I'll check back & see how all are
doing & let you know if the wisdom
teeth romoval has helped.
